Something is wrong, how are we going to respond to this?

[AK47]

We get it, Management sucks, they're all evil, people left because of them yeah yeah.
 Who's gonna replace them then? How do you suggest that works? Don't just point at the problem, suggest a solution.

New management and developers. I've names in my head as well, but people are gonna come up with " no he's biased " just to shit on them

Let’s hear them then, prove people wrong if you can

Sure. Bring Khm back to manager/division leader first. He was literally the most dedicated person on the time he was a manager. He got demoted because he brought up a truth that the current management wouldn't want to come out. I noticed new players joining in that time as well. About the other people, I'm sure we can find a lot of persons who are willing to contribute for the server in the mean time.

I agree, khm was a great addition for the server

[Deka]

Can't say a word about the current atmosphere.

[TheGreasyChopper]

We get it, Management sucks, they're all evil, people left because of them yeah yeah.
 Who's gonna replace them then? How do you suggest that works? Don't just point at the problem, suggest a solution.

New management and developers. I've names in my head as well, but people are gonna come up with " no he's biased " just to shit on them

Who's active enough and has sufficient knowledge and experience as well as interest to lead the community? Which developers? You guys gotta understand, a change in HQ will take time and will be far from easy. And out of curiosity, who would be a good enough manager in your eyes?

As for Khm, isn't the idea to have new management? He was part of that very same HQ everyone keeps throwing shit at.

[Younes]

Let's not complain about who is a good member and a bad member of the HQ team.

The management of a server does not come by one hand, it comes by several hands which work together to patch things up. Don't point fingers at people without giving them solutions on how to overcome the current situation.

The only way to solve this, if we really want to, is to start giving some interest to Argonath rather than just dumping it the way we did, where no one really cares about anymore except a few..

[Darty]

As for Khm, isn't the idea to have new management? He was part of that very same HQ everyone keeps throwing shit at.

No one threw shit at Khm, except of the people who didn't like the fact that he never favoured anyone.

I agree, khm was a great addition for the server

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[JackDockz]

Tbh management should be active and healthy. Not inactive. Khm is pretty active atleast more than others. Andeey was pretty active when I played. I saw others rarely.

And it's not just about the management. Bring in new management and players will shit on them too. The most important part is to change the mentality of the player base. Just talking about whats wrong won't help.

Take fkin actions to fix the wrong things.

[Jairo.]

The playerbase of SA:MP itself has dropped alot by the years, it became a really old game and people just went to play and experience new games, i don't think there's not much to say about what happend to the server.

[William Carter]

Where are you @Gandalf  clean this mess 

[Miki.]

New management assigned is one stage if you already bring it up, you do understand current one won't be thrown off who ever suggests this crazy idea of changing management really knows the facts behind it's operation and it's not out of hate and I assure you there are reasons.
Inactivity is one but it's nothing compared to what's going on there.

We lost playerbase in stages and at some point I saw people accusing management and I was like -  lol they are just butthurt they get punished and things don't go there way and now I regret that and instead of moaning when topics like this come up I'd love to share all I know but I can't and in topics like this I point out the biggest problem in my opinion and it's the angels up there and covers in many field I rather them be inactive honestly with how shit went and whole Khm history is even more fucked after all he got demoted due to the shit storm that went against him with out people having facts behind and he doesn't feel bad about it and he didn't go clearing his name instead he stood silent and saw the destruction that was caused, I personally tell you guys this guy was un reachable due to how busy he was not only he was probably only active manager during that period of time instead of playing fortnite he wasted the time out of game on mapping scripting and developing new ideas how many times I called him IG to RP and he was too busy for his closest friends just to contribute to this community.

What did he get back - several people developed rumors on him not relying on facts and any one that wants to hear the truth is free to PM me because I'm as his friend and as I see how much time he spent and effort I want to clear his name because i feel so bad when people go shitting on some one they don't know shit about.

There was a current group that mainly shitted on him but honestly they did it not out of hate or stupidity more out of lack of information the moment I provided the information the whole idea about Khm from the core of the rumor spreading changed.

Wipe the idea of HQ is holy from your head they aren't as holy as you think they are human like every one and their mistakes are currently not out of experience or any thing. they know what they are doing and they are fine with it.

[JackDockz]

The playerbase of SA:MP itself has dropped alot by the years, it became a really old game and people just went to play and experience new games, i don't think there's not much to say about what happend to the server.

I do think it's time for the community to move to five. Gta sa is old and even if 30k people play samp then also its divided over thousands of servers and we can't really drag all 30k to argonath.

Moving to five will not only raise player count greatly but also will present a lot more opportunities to the community. And about the legal issues, I don't think there would be a problem hosting a server on fivem. Hosting.

Idk how people play vcmp but samp and vcmp are basically old and ready to die. Ivmp is also dangling. Focus has shifted to five.

[Rei]

Who a-sold properties in his gain and much more?

[Miki.]

The playerbase of SA:MP itself has dropped alot by the years, it became a really old game and people just went to play and experience new games, i don't think there's not much to say about what happend to the server.

Argonath exists since 2006 and it's been twelve years now and still we are able to reach 80 at peek times and that of course relying on the thing that some left- ignore the current condition because what happened now is that some server took advantage of the current chaos to it's advantage I mean after all there is nothing wrong about it I personally don't go there but it reaches around 70 players if not more it's not related to SAMP in any way I mean SAMP dies yeah but after all this community holds up due to friends and connections look at SAMP's graphics no body likes them lmao look at new games not but still people stick by because Argonath is more then a part of SAMP platform, it's literally a word of it's own.

[Miki.]

The playerbase of SA:MP itself has dropped alot by the years, it became a really old game and people just went to play and experience new games, i don't think there's not much to say about what happend to the server.

I do think it's time for the community to move to five. Gta sa is old and even if 30k people play samp then also its divided over thousands of servers and we can't really drag all 30k to argonath.

Moving to five will not only raise player count greatly but also will present a lot more opportunities to the community. And about the legal issues, I don't think there would be a problem hosting a server on fivem. Hosting.

Idk how people play vcmp but samp and vcmp are basically old and ready to die. Ivmp is also dangling. Focus has shifted to five.

That's a dream and if I'd have the skills to help in that I would.

[Marcel]

We get it, Management sucks, they're all evil, people left because of them yeah yeah.
 Who's gonna replace them then? How do you suggest that works? Don't just point at the problem, suggest a solution.

New management and developers. I've names in my head as well, but people are gonna come up with " no he's biased " just to shit on them

New developers? Alright and what do you suggest they do? RS5 isn't exactly a beginner script. The only people who are experienced with it and still active are Chase and myself.

Let us hear the people you have in mind of taking over.

[Jimmy_Bowling]

Stop Posting on this and read the other one for two seconds...