[SAMP]Waiting for updates.

[TedHamilton]

The amount of players that only care about money vastly outnumbers the players who care about quality roleplay.

You can claim that the scripters are the ones who made you "addicted" to meth but no, Just no.. Your own greed and intent to own everything in sight made you "addicted"

There is a handful of players complaining about there not being enough scripts.. Which is just an excuse for something deeper than "lack of scripts" because we have fully functioning jobs that people can complete and work on.  So many people just cook meth 24/7 and once confronted by players/cops they just suicide and blame the people coming after them because they're "targeting" them.

Sure.. There's room for more scripts/better scripts but people need to just take a look at what they're doing when ingame once in a while and see they're just doing the same activities day after day, No wonder you get bored and blame scripters for it.

Focus more on roleplay rather then personal gains and i promise you will realise what a great server you have here.

Another note: Don't play the game to please others, Play the game so you can enjoy it and bring enjoyment to those around you, Even if that may be trying to please managers/Arun to get your group recognized, Just play your game the way you want to play it, If you're doing something wrong im sure you will be told what that is.

During my time as manager i saw too many people trying to please people that is came off as asslicking more than "doing the right thing" - Keep your intentions clean and clean.

That's true  and it's been like that for quite some time

Nobody would hate having some good assets or bank account, but there is truly no fun in just playing for money. I am saying this by experience, because I do not enjoy millions in my account as I do enjoy that interaction with players even in situations of kidnapping, robberies and stuff like that, and I truly enjoy it even with new players who have just known the /me command and the basic scripts. When everyone makes some effort, the result will automatically come, and that is a successful, active community.

[Dimos]

I will talk based on expirince i have as scripter it not easy task to make script and make them bug free it take time and also need alot of time to see what that bug is and how to solve it i script ING in lua 6 years now it not always that easy to make it maybe the script be ready and the apear 100 bugs you need to fix so be patient

[Younes]

Totally right. But the problem now is it can be said "It's late". Most of the players left or already have zero motivation to join. If you want them to come back, you need to first attract them.. even if players realize the issue is in them, they wouldn't join and fix things because it's impossible to learn to roleplay with 0 players.

[KJ_deactivated]

Totally right. But the problem now is it can be said "It's late". Most of the players left or already have zero motivation to join. If you want them to come back, you need to first attract them.. even if players realize the issue is in them, they wouldn't join and fix things because it's impossible to learn to roleplay with 0 players.

Words we needed. 100% agree.

[Assassin_Creed]

wanna say something .... how server gone like that ?
and if its because of our admin / developers : why just dont keep not touching server files ? its good :|
or if its about idea and new items and things ... and damaged by working on them . i have nothing to say . because bugs everywhere also in real life :|

and some true quotes:
1.Scripting takes a lot of time and they only do that on they free time
2.its a hard work
3.its late and players are lost their most favorite and may dont be back again ( its not the full quote i forgot words  )
4.server need update once a month like fixing the basic things up , then go for huge things

[Stivi]

Man, Scotto and Ancelotti making up the whole of the server with no/buggy af scripts RP was better than this. Early days of RS5, actual RP happened, because we had no scripts to work with. Then, we added some scripts, and they started getting abused, so we removed some, and then we added some other scripts, but then we complained because the player count was too low, we needed the scripts not to require player interaction, so we changed the scripts to fit the player count. And then we all complained again, so even the low amount of scripters (constantly leaving and joining the team) just straight up left.

Scripts are a tool of RP, not a must. So complaining about the scripts is kinda silly. You know what the problem is? Player interaction. We treat most of our ideas as if we're the ideal light RP community, and expect people to behave lol ya'll need players now

[TheGreasyChopper]

Scripts are a tool of RP, not a must.

The only way we could avoid all this was if we turned Roleplay itself into a "must". I've had friends and players from other communities come to Argonath on numerous occasions. What was the result? "Cool scripts, nice concepts, but the level of RP is either too low or non existent".

Things are HQ's fault as much as they are every other player's. We let this happen. And instead of asking for updates, I'll say it once again - head In Game, be a positive example - help change.

Some of you may remember when RS5 was introduced, playerbase dropped heavily. Well, some of us saw opportunity. Some of the scripts were not polished and most people were not ready for them. Fuel prices were raised for a while, well there you go - protests on Pershing Square, roleplay, utilizing State businesses. Fast forward couple of weeks later, activity back to normal, massive ROLEPLAY events(None of that DD, Escape the X, Do this- type of bullshit, I'm talking organized brawls, bar fights with rewards, escorts, hell there was even a boost of trading drugs which were not even scripted. And the main source of all bad and negative things recently? Lack of Roleplay. People lost motivation to play. Few years back, HQ had things going and supported people who provided unique RP opportunities. You'd have a small restaurant in the middle of nowhere? Low entry fee? Well, every now and then HQ came over, sometimes undercover, and gave some spare cash so you can keep opening it and providing an unique atmosphere.

I'll be honest, in the last year the only proper RP "event" that happened was Sforza's Ship Party. And I was not even there!

Now as for the new players...The bunch who stay and stick around are not the best of RPers, damn...Some of them do not even have a basic idea of Roleplay. Why? Because there's no examples. Now before pointing fingers, some of us do our best to teach them, but not everyone's a teacher. Not everyone offers what new players look for. It all went downhill with the massive amount of groups who only taught new players how to grind drugs in order for them to profit more on-screen currency.

"Most trolled family of argonath history"

Pretty sure that's scotto :p

And I thought it was Gulucan...Guess people only remember the recent past 

I was drug dealing last year(Not farming, only buying) and was trying to do something cool in the server with a family name "Trapani", which got hated by 50percent + ACTIVE members, why? IDK im not sure but i think because it was abit rich then the other new Mafias. The family got trolled alot, anyone who remembers that family, you can ask him about that, he'll say for sure "Most trolled family of argonath history" and in last i lost hope and closed it. Then i realised how people of argonath would be against you if you'll try to do something new.

Trapani was something fresh for a start, I liked the idea at first. But everything was centered around getting more money and buying more properties(without any actual use for them). Despite the few great RPers in the group, it was just not bringing anything new to the table. You don't get people against because you tried something new, when you tried nothing new 

[TedHamilton]

The damage is already done. With all due respect to those working on upcoming updates, unless these updates bring major changes, I don't really think that they will raise the playerbase again to its usual levels. Bring back RS4 (Or RS3, even better). The playerbase started going down since the release of RS5, and neither RS5.1 nor RS5.2 fixed the issue but to my belief, it made things worse. What's wrong with going back a little bit and trying what has not been tried yet, at least in this difficult moment of SA:MP?

[Khm]

The damage is already done. With all due respect to those working on upcoming updates, unless these updates bring major changes, I don't really think that they will raise the playerbase again to its usual levels. Bring back RS4 (Or RS3, even better). The playerbase started going down since the release of RS5, and neither RS5.1 nor RS5.2 fixed the issue but to my belief, it made things worse. What's wrong with going back a little bit and trying what has not been tried yet, at least in this difficult moment of SA:MP?

RS5.1 and 5.2 have made the playerbase go over 100. Our issues arent scripts.

[clancker]

The damage is already done. With all due respect to those working on upcoming updates, unless these updates bring major changes, I don't really think that they will raise the playerbase again to its usual levels. Bring back RS4 (Or RS3, even better). The playerbase started going down since the release of RS5, and neither RS5.1 nor RS5.2 fixed the issue but to my belief, it made things worse. What's wrong with going back a little bit and trying what has not been tried yet, at least in this difficult moment of SA:MP?

RS5.1 and 5.2 have made the playerbase go over 100. Our issues arent scripts.

That player base was reached only twice or four times, while on RS4 the player base was constantly over hundred.

[Khm]

The damage is already done. With all due respect to those working on upcoming updates, unless these updates bring major changes, I don't really think that they will raise the playerbase again to its usual levels. Bring back RS4 (Or RS3, even better). The playerbase started going down since the release of RS5, and neither RS5.1 nor RS5.2 fixed the issue but to my belief, it made things worse. What's wrong with going back a little bit and trying what has not been tried yet, at least in this difficult moment of SA:MP?

RS5.1 and 5.2 have made the playerbase go over 100. Our issues arent scripts.

That player base was reached only twice or four times, while on RS4 the player base was constantly over hundred.

You not being around and not witnessing it doesnt mean it rarely happens, it kept reaching over a hundred for months.

[clancker]

The damage is already done. With all due respect to those working on upcoming updates, unless these updates bring major changes, I don't really think that they will raise the playerbase again to its usual levels. Bring back RS4 (Or RS3, even better). The playerbase started going down since the release of RS5, and neither RS5.1 nor RS5.2 fixed the issue but to my belief, it made things worse. What's wrong with going back a little bit and trying what has not been tried yet, at least in this difficult moment of SA:MP?

RS5.1 and 5.2 have made the playerbase go over 100. Our issues arent scripts.

That player base was reached only twice or four times, while on RS4 the player base was constantly over hundred.

You not being around and not witnessing it doesnt mean it rarely happens, it kept reaching over a hundred for months.

Where is that one hundred player base that you are talking about, I'm not seeing it?

[Khm]

The damage is already done. With all due respect to those working on upcoming updates, unless these updates bring major changes, I don't really think that they will raise the playerbase again to its usual levels. Bring back RS4 (Or RS3, even better). The playerbase started going down since the release of RS5, and neither RS5.1 nor RS5.2 fixed the issue but to my belief, it made things worse. What's wrong with going back a little bit and trying what has not been tried yet, at least in this difficult moment of SA:MP?

RS5.1 and 5.2 have made the playerbase go over 100. Our issues arent scripts.

That player base was reached only twice or four times, while on RS4 the player base was constantly over hundred.

You not being around and not witnessing it doesnt mean it rarely happens, it kept reaching over a hundred for months.

Where is that one hundred player base that you are talking about, I'm not seeing it?

Dude, simple English. The sentence was referring to the past not present.

[Jairo.]

I like this developers, it's like when your father tells you with the best kind words go to sleep and you reply with go fuck yourself you disgusting motherfucker fuckface.

Can't handle the truth? start banning players.
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=124785.0

[William Carter]

I like this developers, it's like when your father tells you with the best kind words go to sleep and you reply with go fuck yourself you disgusting motherfucker fuckface.

Can't handle the truth? start banning players.
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=124785.0

insulting, shittalk repeatedly is not allowed so. .-.