Substantial confrontation of SA:MP's current problem or nothing.

[Younes]

I don't like to be negative but it's not true. Players can't do everything, there must be some motivational movements from the heads to make sure the server runs better. I totally support what Khm said above.. because it's the truth and no one can deny.

If we want the server to be saved, there are certain steps we must do. If we are just going to pretend everything's okay and that it's no one's responsibility, then we can never expect a change in how the server's going and we're rather going to have it's extinction soon.

[Miki.]

As Khm said - players have been trying and a nice amount with great power to reach a change but they were constantly pushed away or ignored and in such terms it feels like staying around is a waste of time while I can say truthfully I'd do anything to hold up to this server and keep it alive.
My PC is capable of runing any game possible right now and a few months back when the server was active yet I spend 99 percents of my gaming time on argonath SAMP "the dying old game" with awful graphics. And there are many like that yeah fiveM will be outstanding and fun and should've been worked on already a while back  but samp manages to drop this RP concept and the whole power of a community besides butthurt fights and toxicity don't forget there was a huge amount of friendships made and after all look at the amount of people hunting a solution down and there were times where they tryed to make a change IG but again pushed away.

In this group of people we have rival people who took their IG role and are hating each other outside of the game as well yet they all combine power to bring this community back - The players care and are willing to do any thing needed I can easily provide 10-20 fully trustful people that will spend the majority of their freetime in order to save SAMP division and will do it properly with out agenda or hate slipping down their actions towards groups or people. Players aren't the problem not this time.

[Badandy]

Let's just lay the SA-MP server to rest and say one last goodbye and move on to the future. I truly think FiveM is the future.

[Miki.]

Let's just lay the SA-MP server to rest and say one last goodbye and move on to the future. I truly think FiveM is the future.

FiveM will be the future IF the current SAMP problems won't just roll there.
problems still exist rather if it's SAMP or fiveM not to mention SAMP shouldn't entirely die alot of players in this community can't run fiveM that's not a reason to shit on them and take SAMP down from them ( I can run and I can't wait for fiveM but only if it won't carry SAMP's problems).
If it will maintain the problems I won't even bother to log in once.

[Cyclone]

We were alive today! With 3 players. I am considering it alive because of the current situation.

[Sauron]

I see the semi professional shitters already taking stabs. I will be short and clear. First of all until two months ago I never interfered so anyone blaming me is simply wRONg.
Script updates are important but at the same time should have zero influence on roleplay. Do not blame HQ for the lack of updates but blame the scripters with the mental stability of an active volcano who get offended so often by players that they get a burnout or just run away. There have been some talents but most had to learn while on the job, which makes development slow.
As for players asking for change, the time we let players decide the direction led to the biggest loss. Kids should not decided for their parents, and anyone under 25 is mentally a kid.
Some never overcome that stage, I may be one of those.
Having fun is not pressing a button 1000 times to see your worthless virtual money grow. It is using your mind and tools you have to interact. And no, reporting whining and telling people to RP better is not interacting.
So to all who left because their virtual coin counter did not go as fast as before, how about understanding the target if the server first and then start to whine.

You want better scripts? No worry they will be. You want a better atmosphere? Read your own posts and wonder how you can motivate others instead of pushing them in to the ground.
To the forum moderators: do not ban the pricka that are here to scream murder hoping to advertise in silence.We give everyone a voice, as long as they keep it civil. That is why we survive.
Finally about the divisions. We have given VCMP and IVMP space to develop when no other community did. That is why they are stable. VMP is just starting so we expect some issues, but it has potential.As for SAMP it will develop still and those who still love it will come.

[Miki.]

A server can't lose activity from 60 solid to zero because of script issues or any thing alike, scripts were attracting new players but as veterans none of us needs more then basic scripts to interact. yet the server disappeared from 60 to zero clearly we aren't speaking scripts or atmosphere as an issue the issue is massively bigger and related which pushes players away ,firstly the ones who actually put effort into the community while plenty of HQ members were a sleep playing other games or busy with their real life. there was a great amount of veterans demonstrating the basic human nature of always wanting to advance and improve and they put alot of effort until they were put down and surely they will be the first to flee due to their major effort. later on the players that do nothing move as well because server started dying and dropped massively in the level of roleplay and in basic rules of players staff or whatever everything went to clear chaos surely players will flee as well.

We had script issues since the start of RS5 yet we had 60.

[Chase]

Script updates are important but at the same time should have zero influence on roleplay. Do not blame HQ for the lack of updates but blame the scripters with the mental stability of an active volcano who get offended so often by players that they get a burnout or just run away.

Nowadays nothing really offends me anymore as I've grown used to it. The only thing preventing me from updating the scripts is the lack of help from the rest of the team and the fact that if I do update the scripts, I'm afraid if it does not bring back players, my effort would be for nothing. The current RS5 script is a mess. It either needs a huge cleanup or an entire rewrite.. That's something that would take me forever to do myself since I don't have any help. If I can make new features for players with the guarantee that no one higher up will interfere with the process.. I will consider doing it after I'm done with school at the end of this month.

[Khm]

I see the semi professional shitters already taking stabs. I will be short and clear. First of all until two months ago I never interfered so anyone blaming me is simply wRONg.
Script updates are important but at the same time should have zero influence on roleplay. Do not blame HQ for the lack of updates but blame the scripters with the mental stability of an active volcano who get offended so often by players that they get a burnout or just run away. There have been some talents but most had to learn while on the job, which makes development slow.
As for players asking for change, the time we let players decide the direction led to the biggest loss. Kids should not decided for their parents, and anyone under 25 is mentally a kid.
Some never overcome that stage, I may be one of those.
Having fun is not pressing a button 1000 times to see your worthless virtual money grow. It is using your mind and tools you have to interact. And no, reporting whining and telling people to RP better is not interacting.
So to all who left because their virtual coin counter did not go as fast as before, how about understanding the target if the server first and then start to whine.

You want better scripts? No worry they will be. You want a better atmosphere? Read your own posts and wonder how you can motivate others instead of pushing them in to the ground.
To the forum moderators: do not ban the pricka that are here to scream murder hoping to advertise in silence.We give everyone a voice, as long as they keep it civil. That is why we survive.
Finally about the divisions. We have given VCMP and IVMP space to develop when no other community did. That is why they are stable. VMP is just starting so we expect some issues, but it has potential.As for SAMP it will develop still and those who still love it will come.

@Sauron
Yet again you're missing the point, or actually are you doing it on purpose? People didn't leave because of money, people left because of how decisions were being taken and how the environment was purposely ruined and how empty the promises were. Everything was okay but it suddenly got ruined, first week we dropped from 60 players to 10 and the second week we reached 0. The rival community took the chance and invited people to their server and people went there. If you're failing to see what's the problem then how do you call yourself the all seeing eye?
People are not blaming you in singular, they are using the "you" term in plural aka, yourself, gandalf and carbon (and who knows maybe someone else too but these 3 are always in all lists). People don't want the owners to do everything they asked for but do what is best for the community, if they are suggesting ways to improve the environment and the whole gameplay experience of the server why do you tell them to fuck off?
And about the less than 25 years old reference, there are 14 year old kids who are wiser and more intelligent than a 50-60 years old geezer. Stop spitting on the people who are making this community a community, well and alive, without them this community will cease to exist.
Why SA:MP specifically isn't getting its own space to develop just like VC:MP and IV:MP, why there's always someone to ruin everything that was planned and worked on for quite the time? We've had plans and things being written for July since January and they were going well in a fast pace but guess who stopped them and why they were stopped? The same "reason" that stopped the development and plans started a rant of fake stories that he spread around the community that too many knew it was false and fake and got frustrated from it and acted upon it but were also threatened if they don't stop taking the right side. Stop blaming players and stop blaming who speaks the truth, yes it hurts but trying to conceal it will do you no good.

[beLTa]

I left because of the shit HQ Gandalf chose to run the server.

The same way, not everyone that left the server left because of the shit script or whatever inside reason. The reason is simple. The HQ chose nepotism over you know..

[beLTa]

So instead of blaming each other, admit that you, THE HQ, fucked the whole server, all together.

[Reckless]

I wrote out a long and comprehensive response. But then decided it wasn't worth it and erased it all. Instead, enjoy this song.

[Khm]

I left because of the shit HQ Gandalf chose to run the server.

The same way, not everyone that left the server left because of the shit script or whatever inside reason. The reason is simple. The HQ chose nepotism over you know..

No, you left because Matthew got banned for cyberbullying and you got banned for the hate speech you spammed  and pretended that your account was breached.

[beLTa]

I left because of the shit HQ Gandalf chose to run the server.

The same way, not everyone that left the server left because of the shit script or whatever inside reason. The reason is simple. The HQ chose nepotism over you know..

No, you left because Matthew got banned for cyberbullying and you got banned for the hate speech you spammed  and pretended that your account was breached.

You don't know shit my friend. Stop protecting your ass.

[Justin39]

forum be lit rn lmao