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[IVMP] Owning Business limit

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Reply #45 on: July 13, 2018, 10:11:55 pm
Honestly, the businesses at MGS which have been sold to state then offered for sale should've been auctioned first.
It's the same thing, the richer will try to buy it with more buyout so that they can have what they want. The poor have no chance again.
At least they don't get a worthy business at /building price "50,000$" as this is totally unfair, you already know what price they gonna sell it after all, even if they bought the properties at lowest possible price the buyouts getting crazy for MGS area.



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Reply #46 on: July 14, 2018, 03:29:12 am
Also the same thing in real life. Better places are worth more. Less unfortunate people can't afford those businesses or properties that are located there. I don't own anything near MGS but I still don't agree on limits. It's their hard work and hard work pays off. As Mane said, you'll see different names as the owner but it'll all go to the point where it's owned by only one guy. And also, taxes have made alot of properties go on sale, even the properties of rich people.



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Reply #47 on: July 14, 2018, 10:15:29 am
Why dont you all organize and shift focus from mgs to 2nd island?


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Reply #48 on: July 14, 2018, 10:42:32 am
I think we should organise a union and move the Hotspot from mgs to Algonquin.
Tall buildings and cheaper fuel and cheaper businesses and cheaper houses will do good to everyone.
Plus an apartment in rotterdam tower is 40k so everyone can live in Algonquin and that too in the tallest building.



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Reply #49 on: July 14, 2018, 11:06:31 am
I think we should organise a union and move the Hotspot from mgs to Algonquin.
Tall buildings and cheaper fuel and cheaper businesses and cheaper houses will do good to everyone.
Plus an apartment in rotterdam tower is 40k so everyone can live in Algonquin and that too in the tallest building.
I totaly agree with you, if we all moved to Algonquin it will be better for all players and they will be able to buy new business without huge buyouts if owner is state. Also Algonquin is beautiful with these towers and Star Junction so I think we should move to Algonquin

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Reply #50 on: July 14, 2018, 11:08:54 am
Plus an apartment in rotterdam tower is 40k
Excuse me? What?



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Reply #51 on: July 14, 2018, 12:11:12 pm
I think we should organise a union and move the Hotspot from mgs to Algonquin.
Tall buildings and cheaper fuel and cheaper businesses and cheaper houses will do good to everyone.
Plus an apartment in rotterdam tower is 40k so everyone can live in Algonquin and that too in the tallest building.

No no no, MGS wasn't picked randomly as a hangout location or a place to celebrate with people.

It is famous because it has a strategic location with a Hospital, Fire Department, Gas Station and a little playground all around it. It is like an industrial place where people have everything they need besides them.

Also, all of the criminal activities/locations focus on Dukes-Broker. And moving most of the population to another island would be just wrong.

Yes, Star Junction also has a strategic location. But I can't imagine people going to south/north of algonquin to go to Fireman/Medic duty when Dukes has the Hospitals and Firestations meters away...

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Reply #52 on: July 14, 2018, 12:23:05 pm
And moving most of the population to another island would be just wrong.

Why would moving most of the population to another island be "just" wrong? In my eyes, Algonquin and Alderney can be better in many ways.
I feel like Dukes and Broker is small and boring because everything is packed so closely around each other if not on top.

I am in for a change.

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Reply #53 on: July 14, 2018, 12:27:10 pm
It's up to the players, really.


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Reply #54 on: July 14, 2018, 12:28:57 pm
Plus an apartment in rotterdam tower is 40k
Excuse me? What?
Asked a div leader some weeks ago.

I think we should organise a union and move the Hotspot from mgs to Algonquin.
Tall buildings and cheaper fuel and cheaper businesses and cheaper houses will do good to everyone.
Plus an apartment in rotterdam tower is 40k so everyone can live in Algonquin and that too in the tallest building.

No no no, MGS wasn't picked randomly as a hangout location or a place to celebrate with people.

It is famous because it has a strategic location with a Hospital, Fire Department, Gas Station and a little playground all around it. It is like an industrial place where people have everything they need besides them.

Also, all of the criminal activities/locations focus on Dukes-Broker. And moving most of the population to another island would be just wrong.

Yes, Star Junction also has a strategic location. But I can't imagine people going to south/north of algonquin to go to Fireman/Medic duty when Dukes has the Hospitals and Firestations meters away...

It won't be very hard. Algonquin has a fire station near the fish warehouse and a hospital just on the road next to it. Left of Algonquin.
You just have to go a little east west.
Algonquin has the biggest playground in ivmp at the park and the buildings there are good.
Plus huge towers that offer apartments. If we move to Algonquin, it won't be too long till a lot of apartments are made there.
The fuel is cheaper and so will be the food and stuff.
Also ya got night clubs for parties just outside your house. Ya got grotti to customize your cars. Ya got good cloth shops. Ya got like the police hq. Fbi hq. Noose hq.
Ya got more missions there. Ya got more ambulances and firetrucks.
Ya got a helicopter in close proximity. Ya got fishing in close proximity. Ya got weed spots in close proximity.

I know it would be difficult to move but if everyone decides to then it won't be difficult. You have to start with yourself.



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Reply #55 on: July 14, 2018, 12:47:10 pm
It isn't that lol..

It is as once told by one of the Argonath leaders [Legolas, I think?], players have a tendency to stick with the area to which they were first introduced in the single-player storyline
To swap that for an area in Algonquin or Alderney.. you would need a lot of personal effort to make it work, something that I doubt you will provide us with

Anyways, I would suggest you to redirect attention from the economy [In the "How can I get rich-rich faster?" way] to the actual interactions on the server ["What can I do with the things I have"]


Scripts should be there to offer more opportunities for roleplay not to spin you around the question "who has higher net worth?" lel


I would rather discuss reworking the skins system to something more affordable [actually, to make them completely free], dropping food/fuel/fix vehicle prices or introducing some sort of multiplier for the owners of businesses. Working on animation callouts, joining animations and jobs, trying to add new jobs to all of that. Trying to find more use for the GUI`s.. you can see what they can offer, just think of more ways to use them

The definition of being rich in a game like this should be that you can, for example, keep 5 Infernuses in your garage just because you can.. and not that you are rich because everyone else is struggling to buy a single supercar and then keep it stored inside of 30k apartment.. avoiding to use it completely, because fuck.. who is going to pay for fuel/repair costs haha



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Reply #56 on: July 14, 2018, 01:02:20 pm
players have a tendency to stick with the area to which they were first introduced in the single-player storyline

Error, in EFLC you are spawned (and first introduced) in Algonquin (TBoGT) and Alderney (TLAD).

Maybe we can change the spawn point of this server for newcomers and slowly encourage each other to move to the other islands (increments in taxes and location costs could also aid this).

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Reply #57 on: July 14, 2018, 01:12:26 pm
Paprikas rest of the idea is good about jobs and all. But we should also try to fill the rest of the map.
Algonquin should be focused on due to it being the best area in game.
Yeah we have to work on it and we could organize a lot of events in Algonquin which will promote people to it.

Let's form a liberty city workers association.



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Reply #58 on: July 14, 2018, 03:31:04 pm
And moving most of the population to another island would be just wrong.

Why would moving most of the population to another island be "just" wrong? In my eyes, Algonquin and Alderney can be better in many ways.

The answer is in the quote;
Also, all of the criminal activities/locations focus on Dukes-Broker.

Which means the Developer(s) need to move the current NPCs/pots whatever to Algonquin. They can't keep them there because there is no enough people to patrol the both of the cities.

Yes, at some points Alderney and Algonquin are better. But at other points they are worse than Dukes-Broker.



players have a tendency to stick with the area to which they were first introduced in the single-player storyline

Error, in EFLC you are spawned (and first introduced) in Algonquin (TBoGT) and Alderney (TLAD).

Maybe we can change the spawn point of this server for newcomers and slowly encourage each other to move to the other islands (increments in taxes and location costs could also aid this).

Mihail meant the original IV. Where Niko is first introduced at the Ship near the Cargos station then to his house at Broker. Most of the T4 players are originally from T3 (Original IV).

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Reply #59 on: July 14, 2018, 03:43:31 pm
And moving most of the population to another island would be just wrong.

Why would moving most of the population to another island be "just" wrong? In my eyes, Algonquin and Alderney can be better in many ways.

The answer is in the quote;
Also, all of the criminal activities/locations focus on Dukes-Broker.

Which means the Developer(s) need to move the current NPCs/pots whatever to Algonquin. They can't keep them there because there is no enough people to patrol the both of the cities.
Yes, at some points Alderney and Algonquin are better. But at other points they are worse than Dukes-Broker.

They don't need to move it at all, however, they can add more if desired. Criminals do not need to be in the middle of the mainstream, they can adapt to their surroundings and remain undercover.

Second, cops shouldn't have weed as a priority only there are more scenarios possible than just weed. Try to make a change in your normal procedure with small steps and see how it goes, maybe if it goes well then you can tell Twenty and get LCPD to a change with more professionalism rather than trying to only improve weed detection with helicopters and other mambo jambo.

If we encourage people to get to other islands because otherwise, they will stay alone at Dukes/Broker then they will come here and maybe even get new ideas about roleplay because of fresh island new things to discover.

Most newcomers go past Algonquin and Alderney just for missions and never gave a damn about other possibly interesting areas because why would they?
Being alone in somewhere that doesn't have many things to offer except maybe a single biz or house here and there with none around, yeah fun...

So, what makes Algonquin and Alderney worse in some points compared to Dukes/Broker?

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