Presidential Candidates

[schfifty]

Ok guys, when I posted this, all I wanted was to know the opinion on who they wanted as a candidate, not why we bombed japan or how americans are gung ho to kill people. Can we stay on the topic that I created, you guys can go create an Atomic Bomb topic if you want but keep it out of here  It is getting too out of hand and people are starting to turn on each other like tires on a car. BTW just to clear things up, the atomic bombs only killed like 200,000 people (learned in history today) however only 200 were left in the cities. I think thats correct. Disregard the last comment...it was off topic...

[Abraham]

Ron Paul for world dictator.   :redface:

[schfifty]

Way to break the ice Abe lol

[UberPwner]

Im voting Obama if i was USA'an,


Whi?

Cuz he is teh bestest then that BITCH Hillary

 kthxbai

[Aragorn]

When they bombed us, the said
"LMFAO America got OWNED"

Did you hear that? Hardly... Then why you write words to all nation? Who the hell are you?

About bomb you proud? That the first who made a bomb - were americans?
The whole world is shamed of it... The whole world was shamed of American/Russian weapons races who will make powerful and a lot...

And only americans are proud... Proud of what? that the Earth has enough weapons to be destroyed???
This is what I do not like in americans... They do not think what they do... They wanna power all over the world and use bombs to bring their "democracy"... They turned around the meaning of "democracy"...

Europe is a democracy... America is more dictatorship, and not at home only but outside their boards...

Russians made a bomb after americans in an order from government... As soon as russian government knew about nuclear bomb USA made, in two weeks russians made the same... Right now America made a new bomb generation... And called it "The mother of all bombs"... After 1 month Russia presented their new bomb, and americans were so impressed of huge destroyable features that called it "The father of all bombs"...

But will you see any russian that is proud of it? no... Russians did not like that america involved others in this nuclear races... Russians do not like their own bombs production as well...

But many countries are really thankful to Russia, that they do not give the nuclear technologies to all the world... Cos in choice:

* America plays teh God, cos Russia do not get involved in it and does not give technologies out to american enemies
* Russia gives technologies to other countries (Middle east, Asia) to shut up America

The world in peace - that is important... And Americans should understand that.... Otherwise - America will be the reason of total humanity destruction...

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I wrote this all to you Hayden to stop thinking America leads the world... America leads it as far as big bosses allow it... And do not be proud that your country destroyed two cities... I do not think you will like a maniac psycho who will kill your parents and sisters/brothers... And hardly you will be proud of that maniac...

Never be proud of wars... cos every war - a shame... Ill minded intellects...

[Rodriguez]

^ Word.

About iraqi war. I am totally against what bush did, because of him, i will have a nice visit in the desert next year too. ( Dutch Marines, yes.. )
Though, not to take away the respect i have for all soldiers of all countries who are there, the people who are made to go there, fighting for the people next to them, while there is no apperent reason ( to me ) to fight there.. Only thing that happens = More casualties every day. More hate towards western communities everyday, and the other way around.

In the time i came to holland, no problem, spanish are not much hated here. Look now.. 80% of Foreign community is against Dutch people in HOLLAND for christ sake. People get hated in their OWN country. As for me, i can speak of patriottism more for Holland, then for the foreigners, as i have grown into the community because i wanted to. There is so much sh*t going on here - nowhere is paradise anymore, we ruin this planet.
(Dutch members of Argonath probably recognize this)

(Sorry for parts offtopic)

[Shifter]

In the time i came to holland, no problem, spanish are not much hated here. Look now.. 80% of Foreign community is against Dutch people in HOLLAND for christ sake. People get hated in their OWN country. As for me, i can speak of patriottism more for Holland, then for the foreigners, as i have grown into the community because i wanted to. There is so much sh*t going on here - nowhere is paradise anymore, we ruin this planet.

My goodness, I knew it was bad over there but 80%???? That is crazy.......

[Rodriguez]

My goodness, I knew it was bad over there but 80%???? That is crazy.......

Note that i said 80% of the FOREIGN community, there are about 3 million non-dutch, and 14 million dutch people. still its alot.
But yea, there are alot who are not willing to blend into the community, and only to make trouble for themselves, mostly starting from ages as 12 years old. Most above 40 Years make no problems.

Most of them use as excuse: "Dutch discriminate us, bla bla bla" Oh, then tell me why Moluks ( Dunno how to write it, its at Indonesia ) didn't get discriminated? Because they came here for a purpose, they were offered work, and were willing to do it.. What you see from the "Rebellish" is that they only live from Child support and some money you get when your not "Able" to work. Don't know how to say that in English. Plus, the kids make problems like hell. Go look at the latest "School murders/attacks". Always between Turkish/Morrocans, go check the news " 15 Year old kid stabbed with a knife at school for fighting over a girl". This has happened about 3 times last month.

[Gandalf]

Rodriguez you might want to read back some history like I have done after I arrived here.
In the 1950's people were having problems with the 'peanuts' who came from the West-Indies, former colonies. Later they would call out the 'lazy' Surinam people. The Moluks held a school and a train hostage in the 1970's. So all these groups had to go through the same integration process, and had some trouble doing it.

Thing is the first generation knows why they came to Holland. To work in jobs that were available and get a better life for their children. Their children already have some trouble. They know their home country, but can not live there any more. But as they were born in their home country and partly raised there, they understand and accept the home culture. The third generation gets in to a mess. There were born here, and educated here. At home their parents and grandparents try to teach them a culture they do not understand. Outside they are not accepted as locals but seen as foreigners. The values of their parents are not theirs. The local people see them as outsider. So they have nobody to turn to. Some solve this by sticking together and forming gangs. Others run to religion. Fortunately a large group copes with it and will overcome the negative image in time.

As it is a numbers game, we hear about it now more than it was in the news 20, 30, 40 or 50 years ago. But it is of all times, and the same problems are in all countries where people emigrate to. America has the Mexicans, Moscow has Ukrainians, England has Pakistani and Indians. The problems are similar, the reactions are similar.

If we do think less of people who are doing the simple and dirty jobs, or who do not speak our language perfectly, it will happen again. People are equal, they all have their talents, their culture and values. It does not matter if they are rich or poor, intelligent or stupid. They all deserve the same respect and to be treated as people.

[Rodriguez]

But most of them call it over themselves. Like..
Did you have problems with the community when you came to Holland? I didn't...
I went to school, i learned Dutch, my mom Learned Dutch, my mom went working in the management of a factory, my dad working at BMW.
Now, i work at BMW Den Haag, finishing my HAVO. Going to the Navy at the end of the year.
Unlike the other Majority i see here in Den Haag.

[PMP]

It's true what rodriguez is saying. If you want to be threated like natives, you have to blend with them.
Not getting on ghettos with others of your kind.

[Rodriguez]

Anyway, Obama won't win.
America has too much powerfull people in the south who will stick their hands in it, and i am not racist, but they are.. And they will make sure America isn't being lead by an Afro-American.. It's all about the $.

[Jserg]

*JSerg is praying for Aliens to come and kill all of us

[PMP]

Anyway, Obama won't win.
America has too much powerfull people in the south who will stick their hands in it, and i am not racist, but they are.. And they will make sure America isn't being lead by an Afro-American.. It's all about the $.

yeah, the KKK

[schfifty]

Well no offense to any one...but I am a little scared of Obama being elected as he was raised in an Islam environment and was sworn in as senator using a Quaran not a Bible which is traditional. I don't think he would islamize the nation or anything but I am scared that some crazy guy will come in and kill 10 days into his first term. Again I have nothing against Islamic people...just crazy ones.