Why is server ded? Bring back RS4

[Manoni]

You guys need to understand that there have been alot of changes since RS4. In both terms, script and leadership and all the issues stated for the past years and until now have been there since the very beginning, we got left with something that just causes a neverending fight within the SA:MP division and its players. I agree with Stivi; scripts were never the issue, back in the days people felt comfortable with the things they had because that was all they could get, despite the leadership issues players were still there.

Many things happened, messy things to be specific, RS5 got released and alot of people were unpleased not because the script was hard to understand nor the bugs because both gamemodes had bugs, but because it was far from being what they expected, because it was far from being what they got told to it was going to be. Alot was promised yet too little was made and that's what made players to lose the motivation, because the improvements were always on hold, not because it was decided that way, but because that's how RS5 begun. Released due to a loss on the old server data, unfinished, unstable, causing complaints and with the complaints came the resignment of several development members and leaders, leaving the next HQ with a pile of waste and so on until this point; the damage was done.

As many others tried to keep going replacements were just making things harder to fix, because there was no longer a solid ground for a team. I'm not saying things that we already know as an excuse, our leadership has flaws, so did the previous ones, alot of scripters/mappers resigned for the same reasons, the complaints made for what was left for them to solve made them lose the motivation aswell and I don't blame them, as I don't blame Chase for not working as fast as we need, nor having to hire Teddy so that we can get actual updates in a decent period of time and definitely I don't blame the players for leaving after being let down.

Regarding RS4 and a Legacy server, I actually disagreed with saying that it's a waste of time, the real waste of time has passed already, when the community got promised changes and new scripts yet nothing happened. But don't get me wrong, I do not think that RS4 is the solution, I don't think that releasing an old gamemode it's going to give us a SA:MP server with 100 players, but we don't lose anything in trying all the alternatives we have at hand, we are here to listen the players afterall. As I already told Andeey in private, whether if it works or not, it would finally give an answer to those that always keep bringing back the "we should return to RS4" argument. If it works well gg, if it wont at least they wont ask for it anymore.

[Acika]

I mean just look at the weed script and tell me you'd rather have the old 7 spots back. I'll DM you.

Come at me. Let's take weed script as an example.

What difference does it make? You had 7 spots before, you still tehnically have 7 spots now, it's just that you can grow a bigger amount. What i mean by that is that there are still 7 common spots where u plant your weed, they are just not on the farm fields but in the open and you get lower prices and kg limits to balance it out. Just proves that a more complex script doesnt bring a significant change, all it did was make it really really annoying cuz you have to spam /plant and /harvest 100 times and wait 2-3 hours on top of that for it to grow, even more annoying.

See, RS5 scripts are just complicated, annoying and not user friendly. Probably the most used script proves that.
Im not even going to touch the past leadership subject, there was maybe one worthy guy of his position.

[neriionz]

Waste of time, waste of 100mb ram and bla-bla-bla...

For starters, I had fun on both versions (RS4 and RS5) but I managed to play longer on RS4. Was it because of the money I had? Was it for the freedom to kill someone because of the heroin spot and then not get punished just because I killed a Gvardia (nothing against, just keep reading)? Maybe because all my friends played that version and gave up having to go back to work to get their goods? Or do not waste any more time to re-understand the server again? Maybe because there was the Combat Shotgun? Orange suspects? A version where they used the excuse of robbing a bank and negotiating with an agent to simply end up in a DM fest?

I think after reading all your comments, I found why many people want RS4. The server administration.
The problem is the current administration? Yes. All? No.
There are just administrators and some who only see what they want. There are a few who use administrative power in their favor. But what would improve if they brought RS4? New administration? No. But why did I vote yes? Because I want to remember old memories but besides wanting to RS4 back, I would also like to have the old rules, the old administration (Cyril_Olaso, [Rstar] Peter ...) and many more that now I do not remember. When clans like TeaM, TCL, WS, and =AV= were so active? And when did Stracci have 22 players online? The Lucianos who recruited all who entered the server and helped these "weak" people to learn more about the server? Where could people focus solely on money and find some way to fight the police without ever being considered BAIT or from 3h to 3h the Sopranos attacked the Blaze at their HQ? And the Corleone HQ war where the map was flooded with blips, where there were probably 60/200 players online in that area? Maybe I said some things that EVERYONE did not get to witness but maybe it's also a call to attention those who might think "it really was more fun, could do weed and heroin, walk to shooting with the police and enemies like the reality of GTA besides also have to do a little RP as this has always been a Light-RP server.

Anything badly written, I apologize because I write this in a hurry after work but, finally, Andeey's denial only proves how much he tries to kill the server and not just accusing him or even him, what I want to say is that the server seemed to me to begin to die after he became in the position that is, leading the HR that were not active for Official Group and partnering with the Gvardia where there arose much revolt among the players who did not feel benefited like those who benefited from everything.

Please, just don't remove this post and PLEASE... be serious.

[TheLegitHabibi]

I agree. It's not just scripts. Please make sure you guys go with the old rules and regulations.

Argonath was chill af. That's why we loved it. We want the simple script and chill Argo.