Change to GTA4 only

[melan]

Supported, test it out for a month if any progress keep it.

[beshoopaula]

finally thats my idea since t4 launch moreover iv is better than eflc for me , its only skins that matters with me  but if we are gonna make it to iv so worth losing  it

[Norrage]

Supported, test it out for a month if any progress keep it.

A month is way too short to see effective results of a steady influx of new players tho...

[jNewtonik]

I don't believe that it's a good strategy to risk content with the small chance to get a higher player base, we can't even be sure that GTA IV will be
that much better for attracting new players, in the end if someone was really interesting to join the server downloading EFLC wouldn't be a problem.

To be fair I am not aware of what are the looses of moving to GTA IV, but if as I readed above is to loose Interior; and Vehicles; then it's a big step
backward for me and I can't support it. If someone could explain us what are exactly the EFLC contend and what we will loose I may change mind, till then unsupported

[Commander_Cj]

How are you planning to sync the map differences? EFLC map and GTA IV map are actually very different. This topic should be more like should we revert back to T3 because well it looks like some players actually like the idea.

Let me see if I got this right. Our current server also provides support to the players that only have GTA IV. The only difference is that they may not see some EFLC buildings like Bahama Mamas and Massionate9, but they can still use the eflc cars with the LCC add-ons if I am right.

I am fine with moving to only GTA IV base but it will make us lose some pretty cool eflc stuff. Also, we can not be sure that it will boost the player base there's a 50-50 chance that it may and it may not.
I am not sure if we should take this decision at the current state of the server, it has just started gaining more new players, and changing the server base might affect it in a positive or negative way.

At the end M neutral to both the ideas.

Yes in this stage we need a custom map, which everyone needs to download before joining the server so they can see/touch stuff equally. I can't imagine another solution.. It is a bad idea.

Actually reverting back to T3 is a good idea, yeah we loosing alot of content but we are gaining players. T3 was way more popular than T4. But unfortunately this is not the case here.. totally different..

Also we are totally going to loose all EFLC goods, look at it from a guy who only owns GTA IV perspective, he either has to download everything new or he wouldn't see anything other than the original GTA IV content.

[jNewtonik]

T3 is a thing of the past, we moved on and time showed clearly some possible mistakes with the convertion of T3 to T4 but we can't
step back to where we started only because of T3 being more widely known, the solution is to advertise our new client or if you willing for some changes time to consider CitizenIV

[Bartihan]

T3 is a thing of the past, we moved on and time showed clearly some possible mistakes with the convertion of T3 to T4 but we can't
step back to where we started only because of T3 being more widely known, the solution is to advertise our new client or if you willing for some changes time to consider CitizenIV

word man, u said it.

[Kowalski.]

There's one inconsistency here though.

Even if we move back to IV, what's to say we'll gain as many players as we did in the RS1.8 - RS2 era in IVMP T3? T4 is still a separate client and unless we raise popularity and advertise the mod itself, moving to IV won't make any beneficial change.

Unsupported.

[Joe_George]

It's fine by me. But i wonder if i can join without IV. coz i only have EFLC installed atm 

Spoiler for Hiden:

Supported 

[Surena]

I recall we had more players during RS1.8 which had decreased with the RS2 update in 2016 for whatever reason. Maybe we could think of a new server script that would be simpler than what we have now and have the charms like rs1.8 to attract players, even if it was for grinding (those weed deals used to be good rp in comparison to now though). This way James also doesn't have to rewrite the whole damn code over - which the server uses now - and start from scratch with something that he deems to be good.

If we were to revert back to IV on the same client we wouldn't see much of a difference, just look at current IV servers, they are usually dead. Promoting would help but that is easier said than done. The client is up since early 2018 and we still on the same T3 player base with barely any new players.

Anyway since the last update the player count has risen so I would play it safe instead of making a change that might or might not be reversible, even though I am neutral on the idea.

[James Conway]

I recall we had more players during RS1.8 which had decreased with the RS2 update in 2016 for whatever reason. Maybe we could think of a new server script that would be simpler than what we have now and have the charms like rs1.8 to attract players, even if it was for grinding (those weed deals used to be good rp in comparison to now though). This way James also doesn't have to rewrite the whole damn code over - which the server uses now - and start from scratch with something that he deems to be good.

If we were to revert back to IV on the same client we wouldn't see much of a difference, just look at current IV servers, they are usually dead. Promoting would help but that is easier said than done. The client is up since early 2018 and we still on the same T3 player base with barely any new players.

Anyway since the last update the player count has risen so I would play it safe instead of making a change that might or might not be reversible, even though I am neutral on the idea.

For the rewrite I do intend to make things simpler again. Some things will be removed, some things will be made easier or simpler instead of complicated.

[Joey]

This topic should be more like should we revert back to T3 because well it looks like some players actually like the idea.

Its about changing the server, not the client. The client still remains T4. @Commander_Cj

Ya all need to understand that this topic is only about changing the map from EFLC to basic GTA IV and not about the client.  We still gonna be using t4, I don't know how you got to the point of moving to t3.

How are you planning to sync the map differences? EFLC map and GTA IV map are actually very different.

Let me tell you ser, The whole map is the same, all the roads all the turns all the parking, etc. The only changes that eflc has are  some buildings like, I mentioned before,  bahama mamas, maisonette 9, hercules etc. Only these few buildings are different rest all are the same. EFLC still uses GTA IV as its base.

[Semirak]

Maybe is a stupid question, what if someone join a gta IV server with EFLC client and viceversa?

[James Conway]

People who own GTA4 and EFLC can join it. People that do not have EFLC but do have GTA4 can join.

For EFLC server only EFLC owners can join

[Serifis]

Since we have already the sandbox server on, do we have activity there from people who are not able to join in EFLC(?) be cause I never saw more than 3-5 players on there. @James Conway