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[IV:MP] Poll: what is your reason for not joining the server?

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Reply #15 on: October 17, 2019, 05:18:00 am
We're been talking about this for nearly over a year! I've seen responsibility taken! It's time now to act on something!


I think to fix all this in a management perspective, the former T3 Argonath Server was in great shape for it's Server scripts. We did earlier provide ideas to JC in documentation wise how the server can be improved and additionally beneficial for interactivity. I feel it's taking far too long in the development area, as a player I don't see what happens behind doors.


*I'm not pointing any blame or fingers, this is just opinions and helping ideas.

How do we boost the interactivity?
- Perhaps we can use the IVMP discord Server, to tag everyone to come in game, for a roleplay event! to involve players okay we should get in game!

- Do we feel the game is interactive enough, when logging in for players? I remember 3 years ago our Server was very much active and alive with roleplays and everyone was intending to do something.

----But we need more interactivity with the server for players is the goal here!---


Management Review
- A active IVMP Division Leader who will take actions towards noting what ways the Server can be developed, advising notes to the developer of the priorities what can be done and what can be put in, in future. As community we have interacted many ways and suggestions in the topics, I do believe the management should have a noted section with a list of tasks for our developer. Having a Leader like this will likely make a ease for the developer I believe, instead of everyone going straight to server developer.

- Allow Managers to have more access in game, to be able to add more or do things with server scripts. This could benefit the management/admin team, to help do some work!

- Promote some developer jobs! A few more developers would be great to build a team of guys, who are willing to help/support our wonderful ivmp argonath community!


Client Fixes
As I've heard Armelin has updated some of the client version, It would be great to have his continued support for the Client version. providing notes to fix bugs / issues with the client for improved use.

I'd suggest to fix:
- "G" bug for Police sirens, basically when pressing "t" to talk in chatmode and while pressing "g" in a police car links the sirens in chat line.

Server Fixes
- Ensure the Server will be converted to LUA.
- Developer is assigned tasks from IVMP Division leader, and some maybe prioritized.

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Reply #16 on: October 17, 2019, 06:57:29 am
My best guess to why people are not playing the game is that, they either have forgotten that it exist or they have lost the interest in joining the game. or too busy in in-real-life stuff. As everyone knows, there are tons of free games nowadays but if thinking in realistic matter i don't think it affects the people's ability to join the T4 server. And yes,
as RememberMe said banning people that has a effect on the server, for a long period of time will kill the server no matter what. I am not here to point any finger at anyone, but that is the truth.



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Reply #17 on: October 17, 2019, 09:52:43 am
All this not pointing fingers lol.

Too little was done to help the game state, too little too late. After a year and a half of asking for strict rp rules or at least backing from HQ to make RP more strict, its done now when there are 3 people playing at times.



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Reply #18 on: October 17, 2019, 01:04:38 pm
All this not pointing fingers lol.

Too little was done to help the game state, too little too late. After a year and a half of asking for strict rp rules or at least backing from HQ to make RP more strict, its done now when there are 3 people playing at times.

Indeeed, but not just last year, we made suggestions ever since a board was created, tons of them were ignored and never given a reason for, as you said people asked for radical changes long before this happened.
For sure it's one of the causes that led to the attitude of not joining the server anymore simply because it's not interesting anymore.

As much i appreciate the work done by the HQ all these years, they've spent too much time babysitting and pleasing freeroaming players. 

Now that we have got new people listening or at least opening to dialogue with players, i'd say try to push more content into the server. Promote as much possible that and hope for the best.
It's a complicated situation that probably will never be 100% solved but at least they're giving it a try.

So in conclusion: Content such as new jobs, mapping, roleplay events etc.. those can attract people in.


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Reply #19 on: October 17, 2019, 01:34:02 pm
IV has always been the worst GTA in the franchise for me. It's a very badly optimized game, and the MP mod isn't much better. The desync and crashes are a major game breaker.

I can't account for the current state of Argo IV:MP, but if the player limit is still 32, I don't see much of a future.




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Reply #20 on: October 17, 2019, 02:00:26 pm
IV has always been the worst GTA in the franchise for me. It's a very badly optimized game, and the MP mod isn't much better. The desync and crashes are a major game breaker.

I can't account for the current state of Argo IV:MP, but if the player limit is still 32, I don't see much of a future.

:lol:

Looks like it's been a while for you.
What a shame that people simply straight think this mod is still a pile of crap while one of the longest serving developers of this community went on to fix the major bugs in the client and is still developing it to this day.

Do us a favor, check out http://iv-mp.eu/


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Reply #21 on: October 17, 2019, 05:43:20 pm
IV has always been the worst GTA in the franchise for me. It's a very badly optimized game, and the MP mod isn't much better. The desync and crashes are a major game breaker.

I can't account for the current state of Argo IV:MP, but if the player limit is still 32, I don't see much of a future.
Lol when was the last time you've played IV:MP? We got a new client, sync is much better(not perfect though) and no more crashes(unless you have a really bad computer; it will crash just like in any other game), player limit was 100 but they downsized it to 50(I think because it's a waste of server space or something...).



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Reply #22 on: October 17, 2019, 06:02:26 pm
... And yes,
as RememberMe said banning people that has a effect on the server...

My main point is on how HQ acts when has to deal with friends and when has to deal with no friends from properties request to unban...and actually is the reason that I quit/stop my roleplay life shutting down business, family and stuff. Anyway...

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Reply #23 on: October 17, 2019, 07:19:03 pm
At first let me thank you all for the feedback all of you have given. Results will be archived this sunday evening. From then we will discuss about solutions / ideas.

Furthermore, I have a request to all group leaders: please PM me your activity level and group activity level.

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Reply #24 on: October 20, 2019, 03:53:22 pm
The reason why I'm not joining is that the server is boring, we get to experience the same thing every day (for a whole year now, with division leaders refusing to listen to community ignoring each and every idea), why would I bother joining. I hope IVMP HQ implement interesting updates every month at least and have a changelog and have a proper advertising team.

I suggest recruiting players to the advertise the server rather than making the staff team handles everything, I have seen some expert YouTubers with some proper views, like MarkThat, However, players should be rewarded for advertising the server as it plays a huge role for the community.

Also, when the switch to T4 was announced, lots of players were disappointed as they thought there were gonna be huge updates like script updates or rules changes, rather than only the sync fix and some ivmp bug fixes, I believe players (including me) stopped playing from that day..



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Reply #25 on: October 20, 2019, 06:24:06 pm
Me- I love <3 ivmp argonath , I am always interested to play. I joined server in 2017 at that time players are helpful and kind and the game was fun :)  :D  . I think i breaked  many rules and got 3 longtime bans . I frequently used to check the player count in gamestate and its always low around 0-5 players this is the reason y i dont play.

Things I would like to mention:
1)New players dont understand how the server works , so there should be some friendly environment to them in-game (Eg. a new player joined game played for 3days after completing tutorial , he interested in getting  police duty/passport he waited still 3 days and left the game bcz of no col :(  :neutral2:  )
2)Getting newplayers is also a hardjob , i think we should focus on attracting them to our ivmp server.
3)Admins should be kind and helpful , most of the admins are harsh on players for rule breaking , use temp ban instead of permanent bans :p

There are just my personal opinions ^  ;)



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Reply #26 on: October 20, 2019, 09:42:00 pm
Results will be reviewed with it's current state. Thank you all for responding.

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Reply #27 on: October 25, 2019, 03:38:47 pm
I am kinda late to the party here, but do you guys know what shows up when you google "GTA IV Multiplayer"?

Nothing, related to us, only 10years old videos on youtube.

But if you add the word "clients" to that previous search, the T3 client posted on Moddb (A globally known modding website) appears first, then some GTA wiki(s), then our website www.iv-mp.eu appears along with some other clients.

How do you expect new people to know about us? Happened to me when I first joined this community, took me days to find about us and where can I download the client. It reached a state when I almost started loosing hope in finding any multiplayer servers.



Big EDIT:

This what our download file looks like on ModdB.



Yeah, 5 fricking people tried to download it TODAY. 23K+ DOWNLOADS SINCE THIS WAS POSTED IN 2015. Yet the highest player count IV:MP have ever reached was like 45 people when the T4 beta kicked off and that NEVER happened again.

Come on, advertisement needs some serious attention.



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Reply #28 on: October 25, 2019, 04:33:24 pm
@Commander_Cj Tho I believe that there is already some guys that tried with all of their efforts to advertise this game but lets just be real for once meh. The problem aint only at getting advertised, I mean yeah it is a big factor but you know what else it is immportant?! to be attractive for a new guy to try and visit you dude.

And I'm not trying to say that our server isnt good for someone to try and visit it, I swear the server was really fun whenever was active but what I'm trying to say is that our mod itself is outdated and the development for both of our client and our server are heavily stuck in the mud buddy.
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Reply #29 on: October 25, 2019, 04:47:08 pm
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@Commander_Cj Tho I believe that there is already some guys that tried with all of their efforts to advertise this game but lets just be real for once meh. The problem aint only at getting advertised, I mean yeah it is a big factor but you know what else it is immportant?! to be attractive for a new guy to try and visit you dude.

And I'm not trying to say that our server isnt good for someone to try and visit it, I swear the server was really fun whenever was active but what I'm trying to say is that our mod itself is outdated and the developmet for both of our client and our server are heavily stuck in the mud buddy.
 :gand:

Content is mandatory and I asked multiple times to add TLAD weapons and vehicles to the server, but management are replacing the server's code and it seems kinda impossible right now. Just like adding mods.

Since I joined in T3 2017, there was no content added weekly or monthly, crashes everywhere, mastering aim was impossible, desync was VERY annoying. Though everyone enjoyed their days no one complained, because they were creative, they used different roleplay scenarios to stay entertained and it did work and it did actually attract me.

Why? Because there was a shit ton of players that roleplays were a common occurrence. Everywhere and Anytime.

Content is required, and we have seen its effect when T4 launched with tons of new content, but advertising and having a stable playerbase is more important.

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