Why did you leave?

[Astaroth]

Hey everyone!

I just want to do a quick survey. All of us pretty much left, and I'm curious to know why. Don't overthink the questions, just answer it for what it is.

1. What's the reason you no longer log in?
2. What can be done to get you to log in again?

Here are mine:


1. What's the reason you no longer log in?
Not much to do. When I try to take initiative, it swiftly gets shut down, or put to a vote like we're running an actual country here, not a SAMP server. And it takes months before they "vote" on it or a decision is made, and by that time, I've moved on to bigger better things.

2. What can be done to get you to log in again?
Loosen up, give ACTIVE players what they want to make it more entertaining for everyone.


Thanks for ur time.

[KenAdams]

The people I have played with do know that I am not one of those who give up easily. But now, I feel like I am just fed up of this.

I have basically tried a lot and failed to such an extent, that I feel being pushed away from the server at this point. Hell all of the roleplays I have been doing are heavily player dependant. With LITERALLY nobody in-game, how do you expect me to stick around?

I can't sit inside an ATC Tower with zero players, let alone pilots. I can't drive around in a News Van or fly a News Maverick around the state when there's nothing to cover. I can't keep on with /ad' ing my "Private Detective" advertisements, or keep on doing /loadwear whenever I get ingame because it is getting ridiculous at this moment when I don't even have any person I can call a client.
And after all these failed attempts, I'm just tired and can't even deny KJones' suggestion on SanTV Closure. I haven't run out of ideas, but probably, I have just run out of motivation to play anymore.

I spent part of my life on this community that could have been utilised for something else in my life, I've spend sleepless nights just for the sake of fun and with the aim to see my ideas succeed, but everything has failed. I blamed myself for it, but eventually, I stopped blaming myself for everything.

I am still waiting for the ATC suggestions by me and Gruia and other numerous suggestions by other players to get approved, which "Aren't a priority for now", according to the HQ. I believe having a good player base isn't even a priority for the HQ anymore. And I'm not entirely blaming it on the HQ, I am not going to blame it on anyone, but I just hope everyone realised their own fault.

With this hopelessness, I eventually gave up and stopped logging in like a regular freak I was.

[Astaroth]

The people I have played with do know that I am not one of those who give up easily. But now, I feel like I am just fed up of this.

I have basically tried a lot and failed to such an extent, that I feel being pushed away from the server at this point. Hell all of the roleplays I have been doing are heavily player dependant. With LITERALLY nobody in-game, how do you expect me to stick around?

I can't sit inside an ATC Tower with zero players, let alone pilots. I can't drive around in a News Van or fly a News Maverick around the state when there's nothing to cover. I can't keep on with /ad' ing my "Private Detective" advertisements, or keep on doing /loadwear whenever I get ingame because it is getting ridiculous at this moment when I don't even have any person I can call a client.
And after all these failed attempts, I'm just tired and can't even deny KJones' suggestion on SanTV Closure. I haven't run out of ideas, but probably, I have just run out of motivation to play anymore.

I spent part of my life on this community that could have been utilised for something else in my life, I've spend sleepless nights just for the sake of fun and with the aim to see my ideas succeed, but everything has failed. I blamed myself for it, but eventually, I stopped blaming myself for everything.

I am still waiting for the ATC suggestions by me and Gruia and other numerous suggestions by other players to get approved, which "Aren't a priority for now", according to the HQ. I believe having a good player base isn't even a priority for the HQ anymore. And I'm not entirely blaming it on the HQ, I am not going to blame it on anyone, but I just hope everyone realised their own fault.

With this hopelessness, I eventually gave up and stopped logging in like a regular freak I was.

Fair, unique situation that prob could've been fixed easily. Thanks for sharing

[Matthew_Green]

Work. Simple as that. The holiday season is happening at work, so I'm having to do 12-hour nights. Combine that with an hour-long commute, and by the time I get home, I'm too tired to play.

That and other games and their disappointments (looking at you Battlefield and Halo) had me playing them and whatnot.

[Astaroth]

Work. Simple as that. The holiday season is happening at work, so I'm having to do 12-hour nights. Combine that with an hour-long commute, and by the time I get home, I'm too tired to play.

That and other games and their disappointments (looking at you Battlefield and Halo) had me playing them and whatnot.

Understandable - thanks for sharing and hope work eases up on you soon!

[Khm]

1. What's the reason you no longer log in?
University.
2. What can be done to get you to log in again?
Do my homeworks and exams and I will come.

[Nathan]

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[Kostas]

1. What's the reason you no longer log in?
Log into what? The server is dead... every time the playerbase tries, it dies off again sooner or later, and when its on a good situation and alive, there is so much frustration in game. Sure there are good times, but most is ... meh. I mainly still hang around for the good old times and the friends I made, and enjoy playing with.

2. What can be done to get you to log in again?
I don't know... I think the game itself is the problem, its outdated, I think we should move on. Most people who tend to play this, its because they cant afford to run anything better on their PC.

[TheGreasyChopper]

1. What's the reason you no longer log in?
Simple - I grew up and adult life does not allow me to be as active as before. Work's been very heavy considering the pandemic.
Work aside, I honestly do not find any incentive to head In Game. It has become redundant to go around in the same circle of trial and error for the past couple of years. Whenever I was IG I found a serious lack of things to do. There was no incentive or appeal to both civilian and criminal roleplay. Last few months of my activity, aside from the elections, was doomed by the same cycle of repetitive scenarios and mediocre roleplay. This unfortunately is not something that can be changed by rules or incentives from HQ or Development. We had the 5-10 regulars, who honestly did not provide enough diversity in the interactions and the multiple attempts to either revive something different or bring up something new were either shut down due to the players "being toxic" and removed from the community, or simply the lack of interest and support from the rest of the active playerbase. I understand and respect HQ's priorities IRL and would like to thank them for the effort of the elections, however being elected as Mayor did not lead to a single development of what was initially discussed. I am not sure if any of my proposed changes were applied post-election(e.g. Casino which was rushed prior to the results coming out). Andy was more focused on fixing bugs and QOL improvements and I did not receive any feedback or updates from SAMP HQ, thus unfortunately my promises and ideas were left only as such.


2. What can be done to get you to log in again?

A time machine  In all seriousness, I may tune in for a few hours every now and then, but I do not plan or see any potential fulltime returns. I'm just too burned out. Perhaps get rid of the insanity that has been going on for the past years? I believe the majority can agree, that per Vaas Montenegro's definition of insanity - we've been insane for quite a while now.

PS: Unlike previous periods of inactivity that may have been caused by HQ's approach and methods, I would like to say that I am 100% behind JDC and all of his ideas and will continue supporting to my capabilities. Unfortunately, this is much like the Titanic changing their Captain after it hit the iceberg. You may struggle to keep it afloat, hell, you might even succeed to delay the inevitable. But the ship is already sinking and all we're left with are the lifeboats, which by themselves are not sufficient to keep the ship from sinking.

[Kowalski.]

1. What's the reason you no longer log in?
Not much to do. When I try to take initiative, it swiftly gets shut down, or put to a vote like we're running an actual country here, not a SAMP server. And it takes months before they "vote" on it or a decision is made, and by that time, I've moved on to bigger better things.

The people I have played with do know that I am not one of those who give up easily. But now, I feel like I am just fed up of this.

I have basically tried a lot and failed to such an extent, that I feel being pushed away from the server at this point. Hell all of the roleplays I have been doing are heavily player dependant. With LITERALLY nobody in-game, how do you expect me to stick around?

I can't sit inside an ATC Tower with zero players, let alone pilots. I can't drive around in a News Van or fly a News Maverick around the state when there's nothing to cover. I can't keep on with /ad' ing my "Private Detective" advertisements, or keep on doing /loadwear whenever I get ingame because it is getting ridiculous at this moment when I don't even have any person I can call a client.
And after all these failed attempts, I'm just tired and can't even deny KJones' suggestion on SanTV Closure. I haven't run out of ideas, but probably, I have just run out of motivation to play anymore.

I spent part of my life on this community that could have been utilised for something else in my life, I've spend sleepless nights just for the sake of fun and with the aim to see my ideas succeed, but everything has failed. I blamed myself for it, but eventually, I stopped blaming myself for everything.

I am still waiting for the ATC suggestions by me and Gruia and other numerous suggestions by other players to get approved, which "Aren't a priority for now", according to the HQ. I believe having a good player base isn't even a priority for the HQ anymore. And I'm not entirely blaming it on the HQ, I am not going to blame it on anyone, but I just hope everyone realised their own fault.

With this hopelessness, I eventually gave up and stopped logging in like a regular freak I was.

These quotes sum it up for me too. Progression is honestly too slow, especially from HQ. However, that's not my sole reason, of course. The primary reason is that there are just no inciting factors for me to get in-game anymore. Honestly, I've lost interest in Argonath SA:MP for the most part, and even SA:MP to some extent. Will I pop in on occasion? Perhaps.

I'll only play something if I enjoy it, and unfortunately SA:MP Argonath isn't that enjoyable for me anymore. Still, if as a player, you are motivated to play or something will motivate you enough to bring you back, sure, enjoy.

I enjoy playing other games nowadays.

[Stivi]

Does anyone see we can write more reasons why for the first question, but not the second one? My reply would probably look the same.

[Nathan]

Does anyone see we can write more reasons why for the first question, but not the second one? My reply would probably look the same.

Based on the sample provided here - it's issues that are kind of out of the control of the server leaders/developers.

[Astaroth]

Thanks to everyone that responded!

[Huntsman]

1) Life, and inactivity of other players.
At one point I became an adult with adult things to do and had to choose with one server to stick with, so I stuck with VC:MP, since I always felt there at home the most. However, SA:MP was a big part of my time here in Argonath and I was hoping I could get back to it once I had more time. Now that I do, the server is dead, but to be frank, VC:MP isn't doing that well either anymore.

2) Can there be something done to be frank? Argonath has had its day. We've been here.. a while. And I think we have been too slow to adapt new things. GTA V was released for ages and Argonath was at least like a few years late to jump on the wagon. Remember Nokia - too little too late. I think this can be applied to Argonath as well.

I think a lot of players left because they were upset how they were treated in the pre-Teddy era. When the server became a little more open and democratic, it was already too late. Given the age of the game, I do not believe that it is possible to gather a new server base anymore. I believe that Argonath only has a future if people move onto the upcoming FiveM and let go of the old servers. SA:MP itself is abandoned as a client. Kalcor left, and quite openly said that "Opening a new server in SAMP is no longer worth it". I think whoever's left should invest their time into the GTA V iterations of the server (current legacy RageMP, and upcoming FiveM), and the Argonath HQ should look for new horizons.

However, even with FiveM, everyone and their grandma has a roleplay server these days. Maybe Argonath should consider stepping out of the RP/RPG scene and create something new and unique, as it once used to be when it started?

[Darxez]

1. What's the reason you no longer log in?

There is a list of reasons, which are all a result of an escalation of results caused by the SA:MP HQ(s). Result? Lose of conviction and desire to play, knowing that everything can be turned around 180 degrees with the twist of a finger. Why would I spend time on a server, when I am not certain my participation to it will even be usefull?

People have been idling in circles and are inconsistent in their decisions.

2. What can be done to get you to log in again?

You cannot.

I have no desire to return to SA:MP or Argonath as a whole, knowing I have found a better community elsewhere. While I do miss some people, the injustice done to some people of the community is astonishing and is against what this very community was build against.