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What in 'no swearing, no flaming do you not understand ?

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When we opened the server there was a clear rule, that as far as I know still is valid.
'No swearing, no flaming".

As SA:MP has a lot of characters that would use slang and some harsh language, the developers decided that it would be allowed to use slang.
On other servers we enforce the rules very strict with direct banana or harder actions.

SA:MP seems to go in a different direction, where players feel that swearing and complete flame is allowed 'when it is done in RP character'.
This is not acceptable. Swearing and flaming are not allowed period.
It does not matter if you are a gangster, a rapper or a criminal, you can use slang without having to resort to swearing and flaming.
Feel that your roleplay is so good it allows you more freedom ? Do so at your own risk.

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Reply #1 on: March 01, 2008, 12:35:02 am
Maybe if you put in the server rules, they will understand.

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- NO CHEATS, NO MODS, NO HACKS;
- NO HELIKILLING, NO CARKILLING, NO RAMMING, NO CARJACKING;
- NO GLITCHES, that give you advantage over other players (attacking from glitched areas);
- NO PAUSING WHEN COMBAT, WANTED;- NO REVENGE KILLING;
- NO FLOOD THE CHAT WINDOW;
- NO SPAM (advertisment of other servers and sites, that do not belong to Argonath RPG server is NOT allowed);
- NO FLAME/INSULT players. If you came to play on our server - respect it and our players;
- NO ATTACKING WITHOUT A PROPER REASON;
- NO ESCAPING WHEN SURRENDERED (follow cops to the police department);
- FOR ONE CHASE CRIMINAL CAN CHANGE ONLY 5 CARS. Fight or surrender;
- POLICE VEHICLES ARE ONLY FOR POLICE DEPARTMENTS;
- MILITARY VEHICLES ARE ONLY FOR ARGONATH ARMY TEAM;
- NO MONEY CHEATING (punishment: permban);
- IMPOSTERS ARE NOT ALLOWED (no any copying other players' nicks or regular clans' tags);
- SLANG IS ALLOWED ONLY AS A PART OF ROLEPLAY (swearing as personal attack on players will be punished);
- NICKS WITH THE UNREADABLE LETTERS ARE NOT ALLOWED (Please refrain from using <>?/|\{}[]()-=+/*- due to the server's RPG script commands)

Please correct me if i am wrong.

Maybe i am blind, maybe not, but where does it say in those rules
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Swearing and flaming are not allowed period.

I dont see that, but i see this
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SLANG IS ALLOWED ONLY AS A PART OF ROLEPLAY
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It's not our fault you dont define any rules....


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Reply #2 on: March 01, 2008, 12:36:32 am
As a matter of fact, it dosent say Anything about swearing in roleplay is not allowed...

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Reply #3 on: March 01, 2008, 12:39:51 am
Yeah this is completely screwed every gang over Gandalf, why don't you and RON ditch admin shit for a day, change your names to something new, DO NOT tell anyone who you are, and RP from our point of view?

THEN MAYBE, JUST MAYBE You will understand where WE ( The players who occupy your server ) are coming from.

It's all good and well sitting back and saying, oh yes slang is allowed. but swearing and IC flame are not. Try rping as a gangster. See how far you go without calling someone, IC, a nigga, or saying stuff like, ey prick we gon rob ya 'bltch' ass.  IC

This is ridiculous.



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Reply #4 on: March 01, 2008, 12:41:59 am
Actually I did.
And did not have any trouble with being abused by admins, cops or other players.
But then I do not swear....

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Reply #5 on: March 01, 2008, 12:45:43 am
Actually I did.
And did not have any trouble with being abused by admins, cops or other players.
But then I do not swear....

Heh, as Ronnel or gandalf, ofc you wont have no trouble and with you '1337' /admins thing, nobody will bother.

Besides, there is absolutely NO WAY you can monitor the /l chat 24/7

So this rule about ic swearing and shit, it's just a bit stupid, why make a rule you cant enforce?



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Reply #6 on: March 01, 2008, 12:50:31 am
Well Dimi, it can be enforced, but i just see no point in the rule about no swearing.

This is Argonath RPG - with Roleplay

I mean, its Roleplay, but we cant Play the roles of our characters?

EDIT: And i understand about taking it overboard, but i dont...
I know when i go too far

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Reply #7 on: March 01, 2008, 12:57:32 am
Heh, as Ronnel or gandalf, ofc you wont have no trouble and with you '1337' /admins thing, nobody will bother.

Besides, there is absolutely NO WAY you can monitor the /l chat 24/7

So this rule about ic swearing and shit, it's just a bit stupid, why make a rule you cant enforce?
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Reply #8 on: March 01, 2008, 12:58:39 am
Out of interest, and without trying to be rude Dimi.... who are you?

btw, they can check the logs. then youre in the pooper haha

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Reply #9 on: March 01, 2008, 01:34:14 am
I think part of the problem could be, that people flame in local and then just use "it was RP" to get away with it.



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Reply #10 on: March 01, 2008, 01:44:18 am
I think part of the problem could be, that people flame in local and then just use "it was RP" to get away with it.



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Reply #11 on: March 01, 2008, 03:23:07 am
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SLANG IS ALLOWED ONLY AS A PART OF ROLEPLAY (swearing as personal attack on players will be punished)
Slang is not the same as swearing and flaming IMO :devroll:

And if you really have to swear for RP (but for me, you DON'T have to, never), don't aim it to other people directly or at least censor it out,
ex.  Get the f*** out of my hood, m*****f****r.


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Reply #12 on: March 01, 2008, 07:40:50 am
Correct Grzesiek...

Slang does not mean you can start flame others and call it "Ima in character, wasup"...

The situation on server just shows that players and some admins want to avoid the rules thinking out the new "ways of roleplay"...

I do not know why they cannot live without "hey motherf**ker wanna anal sex, prick?"... And I have no idea why they think it will increase the friendly atmosphere on server...
Besides it people who are voting for such rules - all  noticed in flaming and offensive attitude to others... Troublemakers as it is...

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Reply #13 on: March 01, 2008, 10:04:49 am
I only swear when I am seriously pissed or am in an RP situation and say something like 'Yo homie, where's that motherfucker gone'. I don't know many gangsters that don't swear, I keep it to a minimum but it's rare I swear in main chat.

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Reply #14 on: March 01, 2008, 10:39:59 am
Heh, as Ronnel or gandalf, ofc you wont have no trouble and with you '1337' /admins thing, nobody will bother.

Besides, there is absolutely NO WAY you can monitor the /l chat 24/7

So this rule about ic swearing and shit, it's just a bit stupid, why make a rule you cant enforce?
I play without rights but admins could find out who I am.


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