Gang Wars/Territories

[sajtfej]

no Smiley u dont understand lol. u wrote wat i told before. GANGWARS WILL BE ON A FIX TIME. for example every sunday 13:30-14:30 argonath time
so they can't kill 24/7. and no, dont do event server, because just like in real life cops could go an arrest the gang members. civilans will not be allowed but gang members and the incomin police yes.

[Aragorn]

More territories - more fight...
Gangs should improve they are the best - with roleplaying and not some legal deathmatching...

still do not see the point... "The best gangs" we can announce and without territories, cos for RPG "the best" does not mean "killed more then others"

[sajtfej]

RON are u fully against territories, or just waiting for the BEST point where u change ur mind and let us have territory. i'm sorry but i cant tell more points of this. these points should come out if u let gangs territory and see wat happens. i know u cant do this because the much players could get in trouble (dmer gangs attack them etc) but it could be fun. and wat if we say if a gang owns most properties in an area, it'll be their territory, added to the map with their color? no attacking, no fighting for territory, thats only for fun i think thats why we play, i know its a lot of work makin these territories, but as u can see on the first post kowa started it, and i'll help him if needed... think about it... while ur thinkin im thinkin about more points lol

[Aragorn]

The thing is:

1. Gangwars are deathmatching thingy (fighting with the weapons - more kill score - winner).

If we'll allow gang wars, our server will be not already RPG... But as in real life there can be gang wars - we are not against it only we need a good reason...

2. The Argonath administration will not make scripts about nothing... It means every script should have more or less usefull usage... Just for being "the best gang" is not a policy of making scripts on Argonath... Especcially using deathmatch mode...

Yes, I need to see the useful usage of gang wars, without deathmatching...
Or it will be just a server with the teaming deathmatch...

[sajtfej]

okay forget the territory i see i cant talk u on this, but... I didnt want u to make scripts. only a topic in forum ur somthing. Ok so gang war, this could be a tournament, like an event, it would go under heavy admin guarding so nobody whos innocent could die there. u know it can be fun. dont need to do scripts, just to make it as an event, and maybe, this could be added to the TV-s in SA houses too ^_^

[rosskid12]

 Gang Territories don't need too be written in the game. We are all mature enough (I hope) too agree on who owns what territory. Same for gang wars, We don't need scripts for them, That would only waste writters time. I'm sure the leaders of all the gangs could come up with good ideas and divide the territorys.

[Pinin]

One solution can be let the originals territories in the game:


Posted on: March 19, 2007, 08:54:56 PMOne solution can be let the originals territories in the game:

Los Santos

The Yellow zone is the Vagos county.
The green zone is the Families county.
The Purple zone is the Ballas conty.
The Blue zone is the Aztecas county.

San Fierro

The White Zone is the Rifa County.
The Red Zone is the Triads HQ because this band have a casino too and operate in all San Andreas.
The Orange Zone is the Vietnam Gangster Zone.

This is a possible solution but if dont like it...

[Orbifold]

Yea,i agree with Pinin.There could be those colors,anyway i liked this gang war/teritory thingy...Gangs shouldn`t kill civilians-its dming,only other gang members,but not too much too.Gangs could protect civilians bussiness in their teritory,like if the civilian has bussiness in gangs teritory,and he gets the money from it,that money should be transported from one place to the bussines place.Gangs could protect this "harvesting" from other gangs attack.And gangs should rival with police(police can help "harvesting" too but gangs could make lower price you know.This could be great economic thingy  :cool: .And i want something with drugs.it has to be in this server,but i dont know what exacly right now...will update later

[Niitro]

im going to answer this.. i have a Gang with Territory...

1. if the owner of the Gang Owns it or the owner has a member in the gang that owns it and has Given permission to use it
2.No
3. No - they can request
4. I dont know
5. They Gang can claim owner ship but it will not be legit.. EG. ICSU owns Fortbaxter and has Claimed Land of Escobar as well.. the Escobar land May be taken over

Gang members can't attack evryone in their terretorie ? do they ?
Then WHY are they doing it ?

[[FTG]Niels[NL]]

1. "Prehaps gang members could spawn at their territory."

They will from the begining...
Citizens skins we cannot give to spawn on gangs territories...

2. "It would depend if said person is in a gang. If its an allyed or neutral gang, Then no. If they are in an enemy gang, Yes they could (But they would still get wanted.)"

So there goes a guy, and gang shoots him, he is like "wtf, deathmatchers", they answer - we decided you are our enemy...
Think again about it...

3. Suppose there is a shop, gang gets a territory with this shop... And demand to pay money to them... A player denies it... What gang will do? deathmatch him constantly?

Gang starts a war on other gang, comes police, kills all, gang kills other gang, cops, then spawn again and again... This you suppose a good roleplay?

But...

The question is NOT in how to organize a gang war...
We can find the solution...
The question is: you have a gang and territory... and? What gives you a holding a territory?

as first i think every gang has to have one small hood that can not be taken over, if they want to get it bigger they have to earn teritories, and ron, teritories would be fine to run ur bizznes on so you can use your gang as bodyguards for ur bizznes, and it gives respect if a gang owns a big territory, and about the spawning, there should be a rule that you cannot return to a gang war if you die

Niels;)

[hell1989]

 yes, we need a why to have hoods and stuff. The LVA wants the one in LVA but we are getting harrested by Dave and Kerr and a lot of AV about it, why can't we have our hood? Also yes when you die you cannot be in the main gang war and also if you gang declares war on another your entire gang must be your gang's skin and not a cop

[Kowalski]

I thought about the wars and territories. The territories are ok. You get nothing from them, only respect. "We did beat a gang and won a territory.". That gives your gang respect. The problems are with the wars. Where should they will be? That's killing - not alllowed. I have a server with pretty 20 slots. The wars can be there. I'll make a special gamemode for gangwars. So the wars can be there. If the administration will accept, I'll make the gamemode and you will get ideas about the special effects. You can check the poll, 14 votes on "This is a part of RPG". Plz someone accept it. 

Kowalski

[hell1989]

 I think thats a great idea, bring the war to ur server and have a max of 8 vs 8 and you of course kowa will be there and a couple of main admins if they wish

[Dome]

I find gangwars for territories a little bit to much deathmatch.
So just keep the gangwars being held to earn respect.
And yes gangwars are a part of rpg, but attacking Enemies in your own territory is a little bit to DM,

Thats all i want to say.

 :ps: Yes, to explain things you want to say if your not english is sometimes hard.

[Kowalski]

Example:

The X gang provokated the Y gang. They make a gangwar in the Jefferson area. The X gang won. After the Y members go in the Jefferson area. The X gangmembers can't say: "hey get out it's our turf" or shoot at Y members. This is only for respect. A race. The Y members can't shoot at X members, ohh we will won back our territory. They have chance, request a gangwar. So if I'm X and I go into Y territory, Y can't kill me.

So the war is better TDM, but it won't play on RPG server.

Kowalski  :cowb: