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Reply #105 on: April 04, 2008, 12:36:12 am
Make it exactly the same as saving a skin though, and only in a house or hotel room:
What about at City Hall? As in real-life people don#t change names in their house :) Although i do like the idea man



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Reply #106 on: April 04, 2008, 12:43:54 am
What about at City Hall? As in real-life people don#t change names in their house :) Although i do like the idea man

I like this idea with my idea and Panda's idea.

You cant just remove something and say "deal with it or leave", you have to live up to your authoritative role and provide an alternative that cuts out most of the problems.

I believe we have presented enough here so far.


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Reply #107 on: April 04, 2008, 08:26:10 am
The point is not in improving /changename command...
The point is in one registration on one player...

If you cannot roleplay with YOUR nick - you cannot roleplay at all...
You use nicks to change registration and not rp... People who are trying to change registration parameters are not roleplayers, but those who hide THEIR nick actions from others...

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Reply #108 on: April 04, 2008, 08:38:00 am
Could you give us a hint when it's gonna be changed? Coz players are askgin me in game and I don't know what to say..



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Reply #109 on: April 04, 2008, 10:18:21 am
That's very good news but as Legend said admins lvl 2+ or lvl 3+ or whatever level you want to make it can have /setname id name or we could have Commands for tags like /addtag [Tag] and /removetag .


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Reply #110 on: April 04, 2008, 11:03:02 am
    The point is not in improving /changename command...
    The point is in one registration on one player...

    If you cannot roleplay with YOUR nick - you cannot roleplay at all...
    You use nicks to change registration and not rp... People who are trying to change registration parameters are not roleplayers, but those who hide THEIR nick actions from others...
    I totally disagree: here are my reasons

    • Gangs have members that change regularly, how will they deal with someone who left or got kicked from the gang? 
    • Changename gives you the opertunity to BE someone else thats the whole fun of RP if people all know its me they react different
    • I am against the removing of commands for reasons as : it gets abused!  thats what we have admins for ! to prevent abuse remove guns then also NO more DM
    • If admins changing name is a problem just FORBID them dont make players a victim
    • removing generally used commands costs members
    • removing changename is seen as a bad idea by a lot of people
    • most people do not change nic to change registration thats not possible admins have the /alias command
    • so there will also not be 2nd admin accounts anymore ? how does this affect [R*} members (will Aragorn always be Aragorn or will he be [R*] RON all the time just an example)
      • if someone does changename and loses name ask him what time he did changename and VOILA you dont have to check all logs
      To conlclude I would really like to see the players opinions asked more in these big changes Its about the players not easy job for admins/devs I was once told by *someRON * uche is this now all gone ?

      and finally Removal NO changing the command to prevent abuse YES

       
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    Reply #111 on: April 04, 2008, 11:05:10 am
    The point is not in improving /changename command...
    The point is in one registration on one player...

    If you cannot roleplay with YOUR nick - you cannot roleplay at all...
    You use nicks to change registration and not rp... People who are trying to change registration parameters are not roleplayers, but those who hide THEIR nick actions from others...


    You haven't even spoken on the thing that half the people are asking. If for instance, someone joins the clan WILL THERE BE AN ADMIN COMMAND to change our tags? If not, then that's just complete crap. Also, it seems you don't care that more than half of the members don't want it to be removed? You still come back posting that you will change it. Then once you change it, you tell us to stop complaining about something we never liked in the first place. Have there been many complaints about people changing their name? I seriously doubt it, this is just something you want to do because its easier to remove the command and make your life better, than it is to fix it and make ours better.



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    Reply #112 on: April 04, 2008, 11:40:48 am
    Clans will handle clan leaders... Gangs - gang leaders... About clan leaders options we do not talk here... But we are planning the whole clan control on server by clan leaders... Registration the clan, setting members, removing members...

    If your gang members are changing every day - think about your leadership and recruitment problems...

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    Reply #113 on: April 04, 2008, 11:52:35 am
    Have there been many complaints about people changing their name? I seriously doubt it, this is just something you want to do because its easier to remove the command and make your life better, than it is to fix it and make ours better.[Please don't take this personally, it's just how I see it, based on past experiences]

    Yes one of the reasons I named clearly - developers are tired sit all days and read logs who changed which name:

    - complains on player/admin who changed nicks (admins coordinators cannot trace the admin who changes nicks...
    - requests to check out which name was in use as player cannot log in with his nick (forgot which nick he used the last)...
    - complains on hacking players accounts (player just forgot his nick and thinks the account was hacked)
    - complains on imposters, who accidentally or not took players nicks when the current player used /changename for other nick (old nick was registered by a new player)

    And yes we have many complains about it...
    The complains on imposters and hacking accounts or accounts "bugs" leaded us to check out a problem... And no, that is not a script problem, that is just a problem of memory of players who do not remember which nicks the used...

    But anyways account problem has NOTHING to roleplay, it is a registration option... And we have to fix accounts and find the problems...

    Fixing accounts is a developers work... But who said to you we should sit and fix it just because of a banal reason "Hey dudes I cannot roleplay as cop if my nick is Aragorn!"...

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    Reply #114 on: April 04, 2008, 11:55:56 am
    I think the complains against removing /chanename are a bit more then the complains about people changing there nicks.... :neutral:



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    Reply #115 on: April 04, 2008, 12:59:14 pm
    Yes one of the reasons I named clearly - developers are tired sit all days and read logs who changed which name:

    - complains on player/admin who changed nicks (admins coordinators cannot trace the admin who changes nicks...
    - requests to check out which name was in use as player cannot log in with his nick (forgot which nick he used the last)...
    - complains on hacking players accounts (player just forgot his nick and thinks the account was hacked)
    - complains on imposters, who accidentally or not took players nicks when the current player used /changename for other nick (old nick was registered by a new player)

    And yes we have many complains about it...
    The complains on imposters and hacking accounts or accounts "bugs" leaded us to check out a problem... And no, that is not a script problem, that is just a problem of memory of players who do not remember which nicks the used...

    But anyways account problem has NOTHING to roleplay, it is a registration option... And we have to fix accounts and find the problems...

    Fixing accounts is a developers work... But who said to you we should sit and fix it just because of a banal reason "Hey dudes I cannot roleplay as cop if my nick is Aragorn!"...
    I really dont like the reason ..so changename will be removed because people are to stupid to remember their name ? its a bit funny

    Ill tell you like this : I rp a russian gangster now ..but maybe in a few months I would like to be an Italian or Japanese gangster . The charm of argonath is I could! I would changename from _Solonik to lets say _Salerno

    now I am stuck with the name Solonik even if Solonik is no longer around (example this is not the case now )

    Atleast there needs to be some way you can change name or tag

    You are forgetting how much extra work you will have when people who are removed from gangs or clans for cheating or inactivety need to change name

    now they can change the name themselves but without /changename YOU will have to remove the tags(change the name) also people who come on the server with a name like Cunt ..they will have to change name but cant so who will do it for them? or will those players who make such a joke never be able to play here again ?


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    Reply #116 on: April 04, 2008, 01:26:34 pm
    hmmm
    Well

    im Still with Ron And Ronnel BUT

    Yea /clan _solinik:S Remove Prometheus
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    Reply #117 on: April 04, 2008, 01:33:20 pm
    lol its Iggy but I was thinking if you cant changename I would use Prometheus again since that is my main name

    But as reason its to much work now ..just imagine how much fun it will be to answer all the pms from new players

    Dear Aragorn i have mada a typo while registering please change it for me

    Dear Aragorn I am sick of the name poopie please change it

    Dear Aragorn I Want to Rp a different character please

    etc I can go on forever like i said before there was an other server who also had no /changename the forums were filled with these questions anadmins got sick of the PLZ i neeed changename


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    Reply #118 on: April 04, 2008, 01:38:21 pm
    What happens then, when a player with name 123123213 logs in, and gets warned: Change your name. And then, he thinks: How ima gonna do that?
    There must be some way to change name, and the developers dont need to sit all day in logs :)


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    Reply #119 on: April 04, 2008, 02:06:32 pm
    lol its Iggy but I was thinking if you cant changename I would use Prometheus again since that is my main name

    But as reason its to much work now ..just imagine how much fun it will be to answer all the pms from new players

    Dear Aragorn i have mada a typo while registering please change it for me

    Dear Aragorn I am sick of the name poopie please change it

    Dear Aragorn I Want to Rp a different character please

    etc I can go on forever like i said before there was an other server who also had no /changename the forums were filled with these questions anadmins got sick of the PLZ i neeed changename

    Exactly, it will probably cause more problems to admins and devs if /changename is removed more than the problems that /changename presents now.

    Also Aragorn, you are just disregarding what everyone here is saying! We are not saying we don't know how to RP under one nick, but we like to play without the stigma of one nick attached to another a gangster and a cop, a man and a woman etc.

    Actually read what we have said rather than just churn out the same crappy reasons you have done all the way through this thread.


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