[SA:MP] Developers Answer: Give Examples

[9r2e5i3k]

Situation:
Doe is driving a helicopter to suspects A,b,c,d......p. He's alone, a cop, and armed with the basic duty weapons. His plan is to take advantage of the criminal's instinct to eliminate spectators in the area, who are more than likely to give away their position, AKA, he plans on hovering over the criminals, being shot at, and blowing up, allowing the helicopter to just fall down on the criminals, going BANGBOOM...

Why do you shoot a helicopter hovering above you or your friends then?  :roll:

[Dutchy]

Situation: You loan out a big sum of money to a player, and he states that he is not going to return it on purpose.
Question: What will I do? Sue him? Report him for money scamming? DM him? Flame him? Cry? etc.

[Vince]

Situation: You loan out a big sum of money to a player, and he states that he is not going to return it on purpose.
Question: What will I do? Sue him? Report him for money scamming? DM him? Flame him? Cry? etc.

As long as you took screenshots and/or know the date and time, sue them! Whether or not he'd give it back willingly, there are ways to get your money back.

[Dutchy]

As long as you took screenshots and/or know the date and time, sue them! Whether or not he'd give it back willingly, there are ways to get your money back.

Another Question: All court cases have been locked, including mine regarding my previous question. What do I do? Wait? Flame Giac? Punch Giac? Hack Giac? Rape Giac? Kill Giac? Cry?

[Zaila]

Rape Giac?

That sounds like a good option

[Jamal]

This question is very important and I hope it is answered.

What is moaning considered as a rulebreak? Like when someone says ''ffs you f**king killed me i didnt even do anything'', is this moan? (in my opinion it is).

''dude ask /gu next time'' is this moan?  (in my opinion it isn't.)

I ask this because admins seem to be having different opinions on what 'moan' / 'complaining' is, and I see someone punished by one admin for saying something, and another player saying it without being punished. It is very confusing and I do believe it leads to more moan, because if player A is NOT punished for saying ''dude dont kill me thats f**king stupid'' BUT Player B says ''dude dont kill me thats f**king stupid'' and is punished, Player B will most likely say ''BUT HE SAID THAT! THATS SO LAME ADMIN!'' leading to more troubles on things like this.

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Question 2: Player and admin begin arguing, admin offends the player in way of provoke / other rulebreak. Player talks back. The admin uses administrator powers to punish person for moaning.

Is this really fair? I mean just because the admin, is an admin, he can automatically win arguments because he is an admin, and can start them without losing because he just simply uses powers to stop the argument.

I myself and others have been victims to this kind of thing, and it especially happens when player asks something or questions the admin (not for admin work).

So, I ask again; is this fair? I think the admin should be punished too considering he also argued but punished the player for arguing.

Thanks, JamalJ._Gvardia

[Romeo]

Moaning - A low, sustained, mournful cry, usually indicative of sorrow or pain.

What you're talking about is complaining. Complaining is when you disagree with something because it doesn't suit.
I wouldn't say "Dude, ask /gu next time" is complaining, that's more a pointer about how not to be a shitty cop.

Different admins have shorter fuses. Some admins will ban for anything while others will only ban for serious things.
I think we need more of the second tbh because alot of people are scared to speak their mind incase they get slapped with a ban.

[Jamal]

Moaning - A low, sustained, mournful cry, usually indicative of sorrow or pain.

What you're talking about is complaining. Complaining is when you disagree with something because it doesn't suit.
I wouldn't say "Dude, ask /gu next time" is complaining, that's more a pointer about how not to be a shitty cop.

Yeah, thats why I am asking. I told a cop that his procedure was wrong (was actually an admin) and he warned me, or kicked me whatever, I forget, for moaning. thats not even moaning!

[Romeo]

I can guess quite confidently who that was.

[Gandalf]

Situation:
Doe is driving a helicopter to suspects A,b,c,d......p. He's alone, a cop, and armed with the basic duty weapons. His plan is to take advantage of the criminal's instinct to eliminate spectators in the area, who are more than likely to give away their position, AKA, he plans on hovering over the criminals, being shot at, and blowing up, allowing the helicopter to just fall down on the criminals, going BANGBOOM...

Questions:
1. Does this count as mass DM?
2. Who's really at fault here?

It depends on if he exits the helicopter to survive.
If he does not attacks or helikills the criminals, he is not at fault. If he knowingly steers a burning helicopter in to a crowd and survives, he is rather skilled at DM.

[Gandalf]

i am a suspect who is growing weed.  The police kill me but have failed to collect my grown weed.  I return to the spot to harvest my weed.  The police kill me again.  I return to the weedfield to growweed once again.  This pattern repeats continuously until I leave the game

rulebreak or permissible?

For what reason the police suspect you ?

[Gandalf]

Situation: You loan out a big sum of money to a player, and he states that he is not going to return it on purpose.
Question: What will I do? Sue him? Report him for money scamming? DM him? Flame him? Cry? etc.

First of all be careful who you loan money to.
If you have clear evidence of giving out the loan and the player not being willing to return it, open a court case.

[Gandalf]

Another Question: All court cases have been locked, including mine regarding my previous question. What do I do? Wait? Flame Giac? Punch Giac? Hack Giac? Rape Giac? Kill Giac? Cry?

Court cases were closed as many which were handled in the mean time were lost due to hacks.
You are free to re-open any case which was not handled.

[Mikro]

Damn, I had a long question.. But it "removed" with running the older backup. I will re-post it tonight.

[Gandalf]

This question is very important and I hope it is answered.

What is moaning considered as a rulebreak? Like when someone says ''ffs you f**king killed me i didnt even do anything'', is this moan? (in my opinion it is).

''dude ask /gu next time'' is this moan?  (in my opinion it isn't.)

I ask this because admins seem to be having different opinions on what 'moan' / 'complaining' is, and I see someone punished by one admin for saying something, and another player saying it without being punished. It is very confusing and I do believe it leads to more moan, because if player A is NOT punished for saying ''dude dont kill me thats f**king stupid'' BUT Player B says ''dude dont kill me thats f**king stupid'' and is punished, Player B will most likely say ''BUT HE SAID THAT! THATS SO LAME ADMIN!'' leading to more troubles on things like this.

It depends on many things like time of day, number of present admins and if they happen to be reading the chat. The first thing is that it is up to the players to watch their language and behaviour. If you never flame or complain, you will never be punished.
If the server is generally calm, you might get away with more. If an admin has just mentioned in public chat to stop moaning, your first remark could lead to punishment. It that fair ? It is just as fair as when two guys cross the red light and only one is stopped by cops. Fair or not, you made the mistake you got to pay for it.

Question 2: Player and admin begin arguing, admin offends the player in way of provoke / other rulebreak. Player talks back. The admin uses administrator powers to punish person for moaning.

Is this really fair? I mean just because the admin, is an admin, he can automatically win arguments because he is an admin, and can start them without losing because he just simply uses powers to stop the argument.

I myself and others have been victims to this kind of thing, and it especially happens when player asks something or questions the admin (not for admin work).

So, I ask again; is this fair? I think the admin should be punished too considering he also argued but punished the player for arguing.

Thanks, JamalJ._Gvardia

Why would you argue with an admin ?