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[SA:MP] Developers Answer: Give Examples

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Reply #75 on: September 15, 2008, 10:28:32 am
A cop pullover a person that was speeding in about , lets say 200km/h and reckless driving...
He is about to issue the person a ticket... The person says he doesnt want to rp and drive off...

Is the cop allowed to suspect him?
Is that allowed as soon as youre about to get fined you just say you dont want to rp?



If somebody doesnt want to RP, then dont cause RP situation with speeding/reckless driving. As Aragorn said the punishment wont be cancelled.



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Reply #76 on: September 22, 2008, 04:28:11 am
In that case surely criminals always reserve the right to rob someone, even if they do not wish to RP, and kill them if they refuse (exactly the same as above situation, just roles reversed :))

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Reply #77 on: September 22, 2008, 04:36:28 am
In that case surely criminals always reserve the right to rob someone, even if they do not wish to RP, and kill them if they refuse (exactly the same as above situation, just roles reversed :))
Well spoken, I completely agree with you Panda.


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Reply #78 on: September 22, 2008, 04:48:29 am
Indeed, but at the same time, if the victim has a gun, and so does the robber, then the victim has every right to shoot the robber as their life is in direct danger and the robber can pull the trigger at any time. Policemen IRL are trained to slap the gun away, and quickly draw and shoot, but since this is SA-MP, they just gotta be quick. Not many people decide to do this because most don't have the gut to. Now if the victim is outnumbered, like 3-1, then he has no choice but to give money of course.

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Reply #79 on: September 22, 2008, 01:36:48 pm
Well its not a situation,just a question:
For example,SWAT uses /me grapples hook and when they exit heli,they tap TAB,to do it more like RP,like they are hanging with a rope on the ground.
Question:Can i also do,for example,when im standing on the LSPD roof,come near flag pole and do /me grabs flag pole,slides down on it,then jump near it and tap TAB?
Question No2:IN what kind of situations like theese you can use TAB?

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Reply #80 on: September 22, 2008, 02:05:23 pm
Not many people decide to do this because most don't have the gut to.

Nowadays many players have guns... The problem is when you start shoot the robber, this robber will run crying "omfg this is not a roleplay", that is why robberies on the streets suggested to play with people whom you know and agreed on this roleplay...

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Reply #81 on: September 22, 2008, 02:07:25 pm
Well its not a situation,just a question:
For example,SWAT uses /me grapples hook and when they exit heli,they tap TAB,to do it more like RP,like they are hanging with a rope on the ground.
Question:Can i also do,for example,when im standing on the LSPD roof,come near flag pole and do /me grabs flag pole,slides down on it,then jump near it and tap TAB?
Question No2:IN what kind of situations like theese you can use TAB?

TAB is allowed only in case of bug: spawning in the sky...

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Reply #82 on: September 22, 2008, 11:32:08 pm
Not to be sounding rude but I feel some of our situations have been neglected...



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Reply #83 on: September 22, 2008, 11:47:00 pm
Not to be sounding rude but I feel some of our situations have been neglected...

Ye but everyone has alot of examples and Aragorn and Gandalf only have an ammount of time to answer all of the questions, just bump your example and Im sure they will be glad to answer it  ;)



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Reply #84 on: September 23, 2008, 12:04:08 am
Situation: Someone advertises that they are selling a car ownership for $5000. A new player sees this advertisement and contacts the seller. They arrange to meet at a certain location and the money is transferred. After the money has been transferred, the buyer gets into the car and the seller leaves. The deal is done.
However, a minute later, the buyer contacts the seller and asks them why they do not have ownership. The seller reminds the buyer to use /buycar. The buyer then claims one or more of the following:

1. They need a license
2. They have not got enough money

With all of these they realise that they do not have ownership of the car...so they want their money back. The seller tells them that they do not want to refund them. The buyer then reports the player for scamming.

 


Does doing a transaction like this while the buyer has no knowledge of what needs to be done count as scamming new players?

What do the administrators do? Do they take action against the seller or do they just say that the seller had not intended to scam them? If action is needed, what is it?

Bumped, please answer when possible



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Reply #85 on: September 23, 2008, 01:43:54 pm
Situation: Someone advertises that they are selling a car ownership for $5000. A new player sees this advertisement and contacts the seller. They arrange to meet at a certain location and the money is transferred. After the money has been transferred, the buyer gets into the car and the seller leaves. The deal is done.
However, a minute later, the buyer contacts the seller and asks them why they do not have ownership. The seller reminds the buyer to use /buycar. The buyer then claims one or more of the following:

1. They need a license
2. They have not got enough money

With all of these they realise that they do not have ownership of the car...so they want their money back. The seller tells them that they do not want to refund them. The buyer then reports the player for scamming.

 


Does doing a transaction like this while the buyer has no knowledge of what needs to be done count as scamming new players?

What do the administrators do? Do they take action against the seller or do they just say that the seller had not intended to scam them? If action is needed, what is it?
The seller should refund the buyer if he can not get a drivers license from admins.
In case of a new player, the seller should help out and ask if he has a drivers license before accepting the money, and go together to transfer the ownership of the car.

Admins should make sure transactions are handled properly, and if needed force a refund.

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Reply #86 on: September 24, 2008, 07:40:18 am
Example;

In a mafia situation.
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A member in Mafia1 kills another member in Mafia2, can the remaining members in Mafia2 come back and shoot/torture and having them in a RP way, to take Mafia1 down? Obviously in a RP way.
Or will that be counted as gang war/revenge killing?



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Reply #87 on: September 24, 2008, 08:04:13 am
Situation: A wanted suspect flys off in a helicopter and stays in the air for a loong time. How are the police supposed to get him down??

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Reply #88 on: September 24, 2008, 08:07:55 am
Example;

In a mafia situation.
  • Mafia1
  • Mafia2

A member in Mafia1 kills another member in Mafia2, can the remaining members in Mafia2 come back and shoot/torture and having them in a RP way, to take Mafia1 down? Obviously in a RP way.
Or will that be counted as gang war/revenge killing?

I do not understand till the end what means Gang War in a Roleplay way... :D However...

1. Depends on reason Mafia1 kills a member of Mafia2...
2. Depends on reaction of Mafia2... If they agreed it was not just pure deathmatch killing (attacking without a reason), they can organize the answer...
3. Depends on how was killed Mafia2 member... If suddenly and without warnings, then Mafia2 has problems in answer attack, as other Mafia1 members can have no clue about what happened and consider actions of Mafia2 as team deathmatch... In case Mafia2 was killed after warning, Mafia2 can also give a warning to Mafia1 before answer attack...

What can be suggested... There are two ways...

1. Mafia2 makes appointment to Mafia1 and at the meeting clear up the situation with killing member... At the meeting can happen everything - from paying compensation to Mafia2 to the fight between two Mafias...
2. Russian Mafia way: Mafia2 can make a meeting of all gangs leaders on server who have authority including the famous criminals who have some connections with the government (admins) and Mafia1 Leader as well... At the meeting they explain the situation and criminals "in Law" (authority criminals) can give the resume to the situation from mafia1 paying compensation to Mafia2 or Mafia2 has all rights to punish Mafia1...

In this case advantage is clearly: either both Mafias solve problem with money, or both Mafias go prepare to fight, which they can organize far from spawn positions...

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Reply #89 on: September 24, 2008, 10:49:10 am
Situation: A wanted suspect flys off in a helicopter and stays in the air for a loong time. How are the police supposed to get him down??

My opinion , its good to ram him down with another heli ... its hard but it works :)



 


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