[SA:MP] Developers Answer: Give Examples

[Aragorn]

Clearification (From Gandalf/Aragorn please)

Situation: Over 10+ cops chase you and shoot you. You call backup which gets into your car, they get shot at by the police.
Should they be suspected, are they allowed to return fire OR should they be banned.

They should have a wanted level to fight back... In this case police should suspect them for aiding a criminal... Once they are suspect they can fire back...

If a non-wanted player starts shooting cops it can be considered as a deathmatch... As usually people do not investigate any ways of developing over the roleplay situation...

[Aragorn]

A variation question from this...

Situation: Over 10+ cops chase you and shoot you. You call backup which gets into your car, they get shot at by the police whilst not suspected. Are they allowed to return fire for the sake of their lives regardless of not being suspected, or should they be banned?

This is a cheating variation, when cops are shooting the suspect car and others "consider" it as cops attack them and open fire as self-defence... They should either help suspect to escape from cops or get at least wanted level... Excuses like "I shot as self-defence" here do not pass...

[Aragorn]

Where the hell is ARUN? Where are the people involved in it like iMunna, Dave, Frank Hawk, Traser...?

Nice question... To find the answer I have to check the situation with ARUN...
So far ARUN got stuck at question about Police Enforcement groups, which were separating and created from scratch or from elite cops or whatever causing a big mess around ARPD itself...
It was going to be checked what is the situation with ARPD leadership nowadays and writing a clear statement about police work on San Andreas to clear out the positions about groups who want to be cops separated from ARPD... Right now I do not know yet what are the current things...

[Aragorn]

Situation: You are suspected, a cop kicks you from your bike, you ask them nicely to stop spraying you, but they kept spraying. If you want an investigation at the location where you are. They say "SURRENDER then we investigate!", they are spraying you again.

Question: Are you allowed to sue them for Police Brutality?

Yes you can... We were always telling that Courts are opened for any cases and Police Brutality was in some years ago the main thread at Courts, which were even taking place online on server with witnesses and judges from independent admins representatives...

[Aragorn]

Since when was it against the rules to RP a higher rank/FBI member?


14:32:45] <Brad_Evans> (52) LOLfail
[14:32:51] <Georgio_Ancelotti> (50) kk.
[14:32:56] <Ollie_Stracci> (81) We are though D:
[14:32:57] <Giggapuddi_Stracci> (107) santa you are admin?
[14:33:01] <TeaM_SantaD> (116) No you are not
[14:33:02] david_fishman(12) has joined the server from Estonia
[14:33:02] bob_ferdinand(2) has joined the server from Latvia
[14:33:03] <Georgio_Ancelotti> (50) Wait, who is Giggapuddi?
[14:33:06] Criminal Romeo_Ancelotti(47) cuffs have failed. Hold your fire and cuff him
[14:33:06] <Ollie_Stracci> (81) well i am
[14:33:10] Ollie_Stracci, you were kicked by TeaM_Wayne(19) for Funny.
[14:33:10] Ollie_Stracci was kicked by TeaM_Wayne(19) for Funny.
[14:33:10] Server closed the connection.

I did not get a point at all... Whats this about?

[Altair_Carter]

Freedom of speech does not mean you can sit and spread every shit here... Yes, you will be punished...
Will be punished every crap who does not achieve anything, no responsibility into community, no respect into community, no efforts into community but only smells and criticizing everyone here... Does not matter admin he or a player...

And yes we already have several (all the same) piece of craps who year by year do not do anything else here on Argonath but spreading all negatives...

This wanking should be thrown out... find for that other servers who like to swim in a shit...

I do not need your opinion about shits of argonath and how spreading bullshit is bullshit. That's not even the point of my question.

I asked about whether if I can express in private OR public circles my opinion on someone, not spreading bullshit, for instance: "In my opinion he's a pretty bad person and unreliable"

[JDC]

I believe Aragorn already answered your question... watch your tone.

[Altair_Carter]

I believe Aragorn already answered your question... watch your tone.

You weren't questioned here.

As for the answer on my question, it is invalid and unrelevant. I asked about expressing opinion, not about spreading lies and shitty rumours on a person.

[JDC]

The answer to your question was written down long ago, in the server rules. If you want to stay here, respect our players... obviously respect is something you lack, Murderboy... your negative attitude makes me wonder why you are still here when all you are doing is dropping shit in here instead of trying to help Argonath.
 
Personal views aside, there is nothing wrong with having an opinion about someone or something... but if you will go around expressing negative opinions about people such as "I find Admin X to be corrupt and unreliable" (most of the time, these 'opinions' are nothing more than idiots who want to maliciously slander other players), then you are showing disrespect, which is not allowed. Someone of your mental caliber should be able to comprehend it easily. If you noticed, parents will teach that if you have nothing nice to say, you should just shut up... the same is true here on Argonath.
 
Now prove my answer wrong.

[Ness]

I got a question.

In what cases can a person be banned ingame for something they did on the forums?

[9r2e5i3k]

If an in-game banned regular player is questioning his ban reason by asking other (often higher in rank) admins, shouldn't such banned person get banned from forums too for bullshitting?

[Aldo]

Explain the conditions on which suspects can engage cops

Manager+ ONLY Please

[Cero]

Is murder in self defence a unuspectable "crime"*?

[Aragorn]

You weren't questioned here.
As for the answer on my question, it is invalid and unrelevant. I asked about expressing opinion, not about spreading lies and shitty rumours on a person.

Untill you think you are always right you will never understand my answer to you...

People can express their opinion but not a bullshit... You, for example, have no difference between bullshit and discussions... So for you personally yes, freedom of speech does not mean you can bullshit everyone whom you do not like here... You are free to chose to tell it, but do not moan then if you will be banned for breaking the rules...

[Aragorn]

I got a question.

In what cases can a person be banned ingame for something they did on the forums?

The standard reasons: cyberbulling and abusing the passwords of their mates/ or passwords being hacked through MSN...