Ok People Of Britian, I Hate To Be The Bearer Of Bad News But....

[Dave]

Nope, everyone needs an ISP, and an ISP knows everything about your net. No ISP, no connection. sorry, but it loosk like this is the end of Torrents and Limewire. Ofc, ppl who want to DL will DL....but i know ways of passing this easily....but i'm not going to post them here for legal reasons.

[Cross]

Nope, everyone needs an ISP, and an ISP knows everything about your net. No ISP, no connection. sorry, but it loosk like this is the end of Torrents and Limewire. Ofc, ppl who want to DL will DL....but i know ways of passing this easily....but i'm not going to post them here for legal reasons.

Yeah! same here, i don't wanna post them for legal reasons also  :redface:

[VMNT]

http://www.hide-my-ip.com/


Kinda permanent proxy for your computer type thingy.

May work...

[DougR]

Just because ISP's are cracking down on illegal downloaders doesn't mean that the FBI partyvan will be knocking your door the second you start downloading your favorite artist's new album. Automatically assuming that BitTorrent = illegal traffic is a flawed method: BitTorrent is a legit method of distribution for Linux distributions and much more (for example, the WoW patcher uses BT for downloading content).

Technically torrent trackers (like PirateBay) do not hold any copyrighted information: they only track the seeds and peers for torrents hosted on it. No actual data from the torrent is ever held in the tracker server. One could argue that technically they aren't doing anything illegal.

[Matthew_Cipricla]

hahaha there we go, LimeWire users kinda piss me off cause they dont have to do any work to get free music. but me, i got my own thing on how to get music. I got this recording device that records sounds that come off the computer, then i go to a music video from YouTube or whatever and record the music. Aint illegal but there maybe copyright issues so remember to mark down everyone on the Mp3 file.......yup it may take a lil bit to get the sound you want but it works 

[DougR]

hahaha there we go, LimeWire users kinda piss me off cause they dont have to do any work to get free music. but me, i got my own thing on how to get music. I got this recording device that records sounds that come off the computer, then i go to a music video from YouTube or whatever and record the music. Aint illegal but there maybe copyright issues so remember to mark down everyone on the Mp3 file.......yup it may take a lil bit to get the sound you want but it works 

Yeah, have fun listening to your inferior quality mono mp3's (YouTube clips = mono audio) that are recordings off YouTube videos while I listen to high-quality CD-rips of my favorite tunes.

[Prometheus[NL]]

eastern european markets are full of vendors selling bootleg tapes etc (even now the internet is common good) there is no stopping so called piracy

when I was 12 i used to tape the radio for the newest songs by my favorite bands that was also called piracy ..even though i didnt sell it for a profit ..never there was a crusade like now there is with p2p filesharing


I say where is the limit ? if you record a garage band they are happy with the attention, but as soon as the same band is big they want you to pay and call you a thief ..

is that not a bit of hipocracy ? i do agree that young starting artist need money to devellop their craft , but I also hate multi milonaires who just want to make even more money then they already earn.

If I really like a band and their music, even though I am on the internet I will go to a store and buy their product ...same goes for games ..but on manny ocasions i bought a cd or game that only saw the light of day because of commercial reasons , rushed on to the market before it was ready(or bug free, finished and tested like  gta 4 is one of those unfinished products.. )I think its good there is something as filesharing because it keeps the power (and money) hungry multinationals on their toes ..they should spend half of the budget they spend on copy protection and anti piracy on TESTING and quality controll ..but thats not a priority for them ...forcing people to buy their product IS
even if its faulty and unfinished.

I own every cd Metallica brought out legally ..because its good work ..but I also own a lot of games I consider "nice to play once but not worth the replay" "illegally"

for me its not the money ..Its quality that counts. I wont be played by a multi million bussines to pay a lot for a shitty product  while i make something like E1200 a month
while they make something like 120 million a month or more

one tip I can give ..use PearGuardian not totally safe but atleast it does keep the most known money wolves at bay

[Matthew_Cipricla]

Yeah, have fun listening to your inferior quality mono mp3's (YouTube clips = mono audio) that are recordings off YouTube videos while I listen to high-quality CD-rips of my favorite tunes.

actually you can shush cause its free and has an Mp3 audio inhancer so the sound sounds great. lol have fun listening to your ripped off music which will be impossible to get, or FBI might be on your ass. 

some people.....think they know about stuff but really dont  :roll:

[Dave]

http://www.hide-my-ip.com/


Kinda permanent proxy for your computer type thingy.

May work...

Nope, your ISP provides your IP. an IP cloaker will only cloak your IP if others are viewing it, for emaple entering a game server, it will show your cloaked IP, not your real one.


And to the rest, Learn To Read The Whole Topic Before Posting. I have repeatedly said they have one 10 test cases. If 10 straight cases have beenwon for 7k each. This is happening and it s real. There is no way to stop this now. Don't say it is shit and all that, cos if you were a licensing company, this is how you would lose alot of money, and you would be pissed off if you lost around 1.2 million....

[Dave]

actually you can shush cause its free and has an Mp3 audio inhancer so the sound sounds great. lol have fun listening to your ripped off music which will be impossible to get, or FBI might be on your ass. 

some people.....think they know about stuff but really dont  :roll:

I agree with the last statment....people think they know alot about ISPS etc, but since I posted this topic, most of them seem to know nothing.

[DougR]

actually you can shush cause its free and has an Mp3 audio inhancer so the sound sounds great. lol have fun listening to your ripped off music which will be impossible to get, or FBI might be on your ass. 

some people.....think they know about stuff but really dont  :roll:

Please. Your mp3's will still be inferior quality: how are you planning on converting your great "hi-fi" mono sounds to stereo? You can't.

You think I don't know about "my stuff"? Please, you just made yourself sound like an idiot. As I said before, Dave here is overexaggerating this.

And by the way, I don't live in the UK.

And to the rest, Learn To Read The Whole Topic Before Posting. I have repeatedly said they have one 10 test cases. If 10 straight cases have beenwon for 7k each. This is happening and it s real. There is no way to stop this now. Don't say it is shit and all that, cos if you were a licensing company, this is how you would lose alot of money, and you would be pissed off if you lost around 1.2 million....

How does your ISP know what you're downloading? They can't analyze every single packet you send or receive and then know if you're downloading legit freeware software or Crysis. It's time and power-consuming. You have no idea what you're talking about: imagine an ISP analyzing every single piece of data you send and receive: not only is that already a waste of time and resources, imagine them doing it to every single customer. The BitTorrent protocol can be encrypted to bypass ISP blocks (which are ridiculous) and make "catching you" harder. I'm not saying that you can't be caught. But you're clearly making this sound a lot worse than it is.

Yes. You're going to get caught more easier now. But if you fire up your favorite Gnutella client to download one song, you're not going to receive a letter. This isn't "the end of BitTorrent or LimeWire". It's merely a tightening in anti-piracy operations.

[Dave]

Uhm....I have no idea what i'm talking about? Until now I was the only guy in this topic who knew anything about what is going on....

Ok i'll put this a way everyone will understand. Your ISP will use something very similar to Ingame Logs i.e recording everything you done, websites you visited etc etc. If they find you have visited a torrent website and downloaded something illegal, i.e a crack, they will take notice of it.

There is also another way. It is something simmialr to Virgin Media's Traffic Managment Policy , This states that they will cap your connection if you are downloading vast amounts of stuff and consuming vast amounts of bandwidth. I know this is not a way of detecting piracy atm, i'm not stupid or anything. I'm saying they will use something similar to this. If they detect you Downloading and consuming vast amounts of bandwidth, they will investigate. If you were an ISP, wouldn't you be curious about where all your other customers bandwidth goes?

[DougR]

Uhm....I have no idea what i'm talking about? Until now I was the only guy in this topic who knew anything about what is going on....

I have to credit you for knowing how the internet in general works. I guess I made a few false accusations.

Ok i'll put this a way everyone will understand. Your ISP will use something very similar to Ingame Logs i.e recording everything you done, websites you visited etc etc. If they find you have visited a torrent website and downloaded something illegal, i.e a crack, they will take notice of it.

Yes, but monitoring every single user's internet activity is a waste of processing power and time. Visiting a torrent site is barely any evidence, either. Obviously these kind of logs will become very useful when investigating a person who's downloading hundreds of gigs of "Linux distributions" every month.

There is also another way. It is something simmialr to Virgin Media's Traffic Managment Policy , This states that they will cap your connection if you are downloading vast amounts of stuff and consuming vast amounts of bandwidth. I know this is not a way of detecting piracy atm, i'm not stupid or anything. I'm saying they will use something similar to this. If they detect you Downloading and consuming vast amounts of bandwidth, they will investigate. If you were an ISP, wouldn't you be curious about where all your other customers bandwidth goes?

This is a good example of a bad ISP. This is obviously a valid way of knowing who's most likely downloading illegal content: but there's always a counterargument to this. BitTorrent, as I stated above, is an excellent and fast protocol for distributing free software and other legal content.

[VMNT]

I don't care I buy what I use anyway :P

[Dave]

Looks like there is two of use that know what we are talking about in this topic