War in South Ossetia

[Gandalf]

This could mean a WW3, USA Attacking Russia, Russia calling one of their freinds. Urgh.

How would the USA justify attack on Russia ? Georgia is not a member of NATO. The UN and EU have refused in the past to help out the Russians in maintaining the peace.
If anything they can send the UN to South Ossetia and let them protect against Georgia. However that would upset a fried of the US. If they only protect the border with Russia, they will allow Georgia genocide, and don't believe it will not happen.

There for all that will happen... People blaming Russia for protecting and stopping genocide of people that want independence.

[Aragorn]

Oh, I would like to hear here from "peacemakers" the answer on one question:

Why does NATO exist? 

[Jubin]

If Russia is on South-Ossetia side, then tell me, why haven't they recognized the sovereignty of South Ossetia? Not a single country has done that. And this is not like they haven't had the time; this thing started at the beginning of 1990's.

This could mean a WW3, USA Attacking Russia, Russia calling one of their freinds. Urgh.

Sry, but that is just funny.

 :ps: And also it is not sure that Georgia started the attack, both sides accuses the other side about starting the fire.

[Watti]

A world war is a war fought by most of the planet's nations — across continents and for years. As a world war progresses, the combatants devote more, then most, of their resources to it, resulting in escalating destruction. As a term, world war usually is applied to the wars of (then) unprecedented scale fought in the 20th century: World War I (1914–1918) and World War II (1939–1945).

ok we got like 52 or 86 nations.. i didnt watch the olympics opening.. so i dunno :P maybe 100 any way there are a few..

If this "War" Turns into a World war, which would be unlikly unless some one calls in the Americans, which would call in others, and Maybe Even Australia, At this point, any personel in the Defence forces, are "Peace keepers" to be precise...
Whe World War III comes round, It would be Open Enlistment,

Conscription (also known as the draft, the call-up or national service) is a general term for involuntary labor demanded by some established authority.

Affected States    World War I    World War II
Deaths           18 M              60 - 100 M
Injured           20 M                    35 M
Conscripts           70 M                    110 M
Battlefield Size   4 M km²            22 M km²

Lets see

thats at least 3-5 times more deaths so lets go with 4

Injured, maybe 2 times more..

Conscripts, 2 times more
battle field, 6 times

NOW.. lets add the year between

World War I (1914–1918) and World War II (1939–1945).
4 years , and 6 years...
pretty much 0.25 more

So now.. betwen each war was 21 Years
now there is 60 years at least
thats 3 times more, now.. mostly it was doubled (Conscripts.. and injured) So

Deaths: its 4 times more, so 2 times more, every 10 years thats 120 times in 60 years
So
2*60=120

120*100= 12000

Add Zeros
12 000 000 000
Twelve Billion

Injured:
if we account per 10 years it increased by .5 (50%).. so to get up to 60 years

.5 * 60 =35

35*35=1225

now we gotta add Zeros

thus 1225  is 1 225 000 000 Injured

Conscripts:
110 million Conscripts
its doubled from WW1 to WW2 so
.5*60=35

35*110=3850
add the Zeros
3 850 000 000(Three Billion Eight Hundred and Fifty Million)

Battle field
6 times in 20 years, 3 times in 10 years
22km²
so
3*60=180

180*22=3960
Add the km² and Zeros
3 960 000 000km² (Three Billion Nine Hundred and Sixty Million)


Deaths: 12 000 000 000(Twelve Billion)
injured: 1 225 000 000 (One Billion Two Hundred and Twenty-Five Million)
Conscripts: 3 850 000 000(Three Billion Eight Hundred and Fifty Million
Battle Size: 3 960 000 000km² (Three Billion Nine Hundred and Sixty Million)

now here is the worlds Statistics

Population: 6.5 billion (6,500,000,000)]
land Masses: 148,939,063.133 km² ( One hundred and Forty-Eight Billion, Nine hundred and Thirty-Nine million, and Sixty-Three Square Kilometers)

If a World War 3 happens, The human Race is f**ked

[tiderman]

What the fuck watti?

[Watti]

lol i knew that would happen

WTF as in i dont understand...

If a World War 3 happens, The human Race is f**ked

WTF is like umm.. Why did u put that there where u bored kinda HUH!!???

I was bored.. and im good at maths..

[tiderman]

540 words, Watti. And I lost track after reading two of them.


Ohwell.. Lucky us in Sweden we got finland on our side

[Dimka_Richman]

If Russia is on South-Ossetia side, then tell me, why haven't they recognized the sovereignty of South Ossetia?

ill tell u why. imo russian goverment were waiting for attack. I cant belive that they aint knows bout Georgean troops, coz many people wus evacueted like 3 days before attack. And our troops aint wus there becouse now its better time to come in Ossetia to defende it and then confirm sovereignty of Ossetia.
 :ps: Georgia attacks Abkhazia.

pps sorry for bad english hope ull understand me

[Gandalf]

If Russia is on South-Ossetia side, then tell me, why haven't they recognized the sovereignty of South Ossetia? Not a single country has done that. And this is not like they haven't had the time; this thing started at the beginning of 1990's.
Sry, but that is just funny.

 :ps: And also it is not sure that Georgia started the attack, both sides accuses the other side about starting the fire.

The real question is why the UN and the EU did not care.
South Ossetia had autonomy inside Georgia since 1922. In 1990 (yes when USSR was still in one piece) they tried to declare the Ossetian republic.
In 1992 they held a referendum that was declared invalid. In 2006 they held another referendum, including people from many countries checking.
Georgia started to attack the capital, and Russia did go to the UN before answering any actions.

Sorry Jubin, Russians will not allow Georgians to kill off the Ossetians waiting for the UN to move their butts.

Tiderman, you got the Finnish war wrong. Russia got what they wanted, they never intended to add the whole of Finland. They got back exactly that piece that Finland captured before.
This is what people just do not understand. Russia is not an agressive nation. But they will fight for their rights and territory by all means.
And the second thing is that Russia will honor the promise they made. They promised South Ossetia to keep their country safe until the conflict was solved.
If they allow Georgia to attack, they break that promise.

[Aragorn]

Ohwell.. Lucky us in Sweden we got finland on our side

All what you need - peaceful and friendly relations with Russia... Once there will come some shit "I ll pwn Russia, they are weak" he will get a good answer...

"Who came with the sword, from the sword will die" (Russian saying)... That learned many Armies...

If Europe will be more clever, they will get the best market of clients for their products... BTW some European countries already got the idea of business together...

[Aragorn]

ill tell u why. imo russian government were waiting for attack. I cant believe that they aint knows bout Georgean troops, coz many people wus evacuated like 3 days before attack. And our troops aint wus there because now its better time to come in Ossetia to defende it and then confirm sovereignty of Ossetia.
 :ps: Georgia gionna attack Albania.

Evacuation started after they got to places... There were no any special divisions who were evacuating people... Right now Russian Batteries managed with fights come to the positions of attacked forces to evacuate people...

Georgians attacked their lands (according to their points), cos if they claim Osetia is Georgian land - why the f**k they attacked their own citizens? This is the point of what was going on...

For Russia it is not a fight for land, it is protection of attacked civilians and backup to peace forces... Cos if Russia would fight for lands - they could (as Jubin thinks) already take Osetia under control...

[tiderman]

All what you need - peaceful and friendly relations with Russia... Once there will come some shit "I ll pwn Russia, they are weak" he will get a good answer...

"Who came with the sword, from the sword will die" (Russian saying)... That learned many Armies...

If Europe will be more clever, they will get the best market of clients for their products... BTW some European countries already got the idea of business together...

If I was a country.. And I was going into a fight at school with another country.. I would not chose Russia. Never.
Cause russia is that kind of guy.. That will knock you out in a roundhouse kick, drag you to their cellar and make you watch teletubbies.. wait .. oh you get my point..

btw the pic was a joke :p

[Omri]

Oh, I would like to hear here from "peacemakers" the answer on one question:

Why does NATO exist? 

I think I learned this in school ( Yes i have been in school ).
NATO stands for North Atlantic Treaty Organisation
Its just some random people who cant stand for thier self they need to get more to back them up in a war. Lets say this
If USA get attacked then other members of NATO MUST help USA because they are in NATO, lame right ?

[Brains]

I hope that this "war" will not inflame, and that will remain only as little conflict of the two countries, because I know what war is and the fact that a great country where I was born (Yugoslavia) was destroyed because of the war. This was a very bad time and a lot of innocent people were killed, the territory destroyed and damage done only because one f..king jerk with broken mind who wanted to achieve its goal. You know the Yugoslav war 1991-1995...

[Anto]

There is no fucking reason to come to me and say i am ignorant Aragorn cos i am not fucking ignorant, i was completely unbiased in my views, wtf has gone in to you? I understand you are pissed but this is no reason to get pissed at me for nothing and say 'stop being fucking ignorant' and shit, I actually am on Russia's side here and if you can't understand that I can't make you, Why you are getting pissed at me for nothing, I will not stand back and take that comments about me.

and read the fucking comment again that i wrote, i never bullshitted about russia and her politics, I was writing completely on Russia's side, wtf???

once again, read my comment again, then you can understand that i was talking backing up Russia.

and dont call me fucker, and say i am ignorant looking through American Propaghanda, I have been brought up to believe that the 'victorious' side in war is always the side that wrotes history, so obvioulsly there is going to be American propaghanda, but do I buy it??? no

so dont come and shit me when you have no idea what I think, what I believe, I am on Russia's side, obviously....

 read the comment properly.