War in South Ossetia

[Fatboy_Rob]

Well, I guess, but still, look at what's happening now (from our POV)
We're already in a war that's costing us LOTS of money, and lives (even though it's nothing compared to how many terrorists we killed)
Now he's replying as if Barack Obama is stupid enough to go tell Mother Russia "Go away now and let them be or we'll step in and fight you!"
Now, when Obama or McCain gets into the white house, they will not simply stop the war as soon as they get in, trust me it'll never happen. Maybe a couple years down the line, yes, but not now.. and with that in mind, I bet that South Ossetia is the last thing in bushes mind to worry about.

[Alarba]

Bah, why are u flamming at me? What i am saying is USA wont go in war! And U are flamming on me cause u didnt understand my post. So im going to explain it to you. what i said in my post was that Bush wont go to war and u may think im dumb but matter in fact i may be smarter then some ppl in here.
Bush wont go to war because his legacy is almost ending so he wont make it worse. So if u understood u now know that u misunderstood that other post.

[Gandalf]

The thing is South ossetia (georgian part) wanted to be independant and want to join with north ossetia (russian part) so Georgia didnt like that but the russians seemed to do a happy face but we ALL know russia HATE loosing power. So georgia went to south ossetia say BOO to the peacekeepers then russia took advantadge of that situation to attack south ossetia and georgia. And no this isnt going for a WWIII cause it needed 2 Super power nations to go in war and as i said in other post USA wont go to war at this time.

If you think killing 10 peace keepers and bombarding a city is saying 'BOO' then I guess you are right. Just like someone said 'BOO' in the USA and they went to Afghanistan and Iraq as result.
By the time the new president is elected this will have long ended.

[Fatboy_Rob]

Alright I see what you're saying now, sorry.
I was just a little mad cause I scanned over your post quickly and didn't thoroughly read it.

:ps: This is what we're fighting against... 

[Aragorn]

Georgia expected that Russians will remove their troops when Georgia made an attack (usual practice of NATO forces and  peace troops)... Instead of going away and waiting for the lazy asses from corrupt UN Russians answered with their weapons... Now Georgia is crying...

I have one question: where the fuck is logic? Before attacking Russians troops anyone thought against which Army they go?

I do not mean Russian Army is omfgpwnzorg... I mean that in this situation between Georgian troops and Russian troops all is clear who will cry...

But I suppose another thing - Georgian President lost respect from his citizens... Cos being over 200 years in Russia Many relations of civilians are mixed... Georgians have a lot of families in Russia, Russians have many families in Georgia...

[Aragorn]

Bush wont go to war because his legacy is almost ending so he wont make it worse. So if u understood u now know that u misunderstood that other post.

USA will not go to fight Russia... Cos in that case when both Empires will crash into the war between each other will be bad for all World...

BTW Russia was suggesting the disarming and peace contract, which USA successfully denied and instead of it started making NATO wider...

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That is why I asked you all, the future of World: what is the point of NATO... And no Omri you are wrong... NATO was created for making up a good military forces against Russia... When in 1985 Gorbatchev suggested a peace to USA and starting a new relations as friends USA was confused and signed up a disarming contract... But several years ago they ignored this project and started military development... That is why right now relations between both governments are bad...

If to think logically, USA just needed Russia as a friend and then many problems in the world could be finished at once...

But the point is that one country needs an enemy to spread their propaganda and to hide inflation, as to sell weapons, which are the one product this country importing...

I loved America... Long time... I liked its citizens, I liked their patriotic feelings, I liked it as I liked Russia...
But 3 years ago I changed my mind... Cos I saw the awful propaganda against Russia and lie...

100% americans think that Russia has no good weapons and very weak... That was done to make its citizens feel they are protected from "world threat"... 100% americans think that communism is making war with USA, while communism is a normal policy like socialism, democracy, etc. and was based on equal work for equal rights of all people... 100% americans think that the WW II won Americans, while Americans joined it already when Russian Army was defeating Nazi on Germans land... 100% have no idea that during WW II Stalin was asking for support USA and England and several times got denied... And both countries agreed when scared that Russian territories will cover Europe as well... 100% americans do not know who is Stalin... And blaming him - blame Russia as well, while Russia was all in fear of stalinism, and many citizens died (were shot to death)... And 100% of americans have no idea who defeated stalinism... Their "education" like just stopped on genocide of Stalin... 100% americans think that Russians are poor, while Russians have many rich people even by world standards... 100% americans think that Russia is just some tundra with horse riders and strange hats with the red star who are drinking Vodka all days, while Russians are developed and have many specialists in science, medicine, computer technologies, etc.

I can continue it, but it will take a lot... And I am sure Americans are not even interested in what I say... They can just scroll this text...

I just hope that some of you will think over my words as the words of other side... Cos this are words of guy who 3 years ago loved both countries: America and Russia...

[Tice]

(even though it's nothing compared to how many terrorists we killed)

... This kind of blunt patriotism is why the world hates America. All this 'America, fuck yeah!!' stuff means nothing when you're stuck in an unwinnable war and dragging other countries into it.

Did UK propaganda say it was Russia who started attacks???

I haven't seen a single British news article that blames either side yet. A lot of people here understand why the attack is happening. The comments on the BBC HYS user comments section are pretty much all in favour of Russia.

[Alarba]

Alright I see what you're saying now, sorry.
I was just a little mad cause I scanned over your post quickly and didn't thoroughly read it.

:ps: This is what we're fighting against... 

They seem to say Alarba :P they are invoking me to kill themselfs

[Anto]

Alright I see what you're saying now, sorry.
I was just a little mad cause I scanned over your post quickly and didn't thoroughly read it.

:ps: This is what we're fighting against... 

I think Iraqi's and Afghans are doing a pretty good job dealing with Americans, sure, American's army kills alot of Iraqi's, but its the same with Iraqi's, they are holding their own.

also, there have been more stupid mistakes that have killed American soldiers, Soldiers juggling with grenades, droping grenades, doing stupid shit, they probs think the same about Americans...

[DiheSforza]

USA will not go to fight Russia... Cos in that case when both Empires will crash into the war between each other will be bad for all World...

Yeah, Aragorn, but now you`re thinking wrong way. USA will, no way. Maybe a bit later, because they have enough problems right now.

100% americans think that Russia has no good weapons and very weak... That was done to make its citizens feel they are protected from "world threat"... 100% americans think that communism is making war with USA, while communism is a normal policy like socialism, democracy, etc. and was based on equal work for equal rights of all people... 100% americans think that the WW II won Americans, while Americans joined it already when Russian Army was defeating Nazi on Germans land... 100% have no idea that during WW II Stalin was asking for support USA and England and several times got denied... And both countries agreed when scared that Russian territories will cover Europe as well... 100% americans do not know who is Stalin... And blaming him - blame Russia as well, while Russia was all in fear of stalinism, and many citizens died (were shot to death)... And 100% of americans have no idea who defeated stalinism... Their "education" like just stopped on genocide of Stalin... 100% americans think that Russians are poor, while Russians have many rich people even by world standards... 100% americans think that Russia is just some tundra with horse riders and strange hats with the red star who are drinking Vodka all days, while Russians are developed and have many specialists in science, medicine, computer technologies, etc.

This is a first act of the World War III, to change people mind, to make them hate Russia. The second act would be a economic pressure on Russia, then, USA would find a reason to attack Russia but this is a third act.

I was ROFL when i saw that on MTV:
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Thats what Americans think about Russia... "Poidem domoy vmeste so mnoy!"

The little video made by American about WW3, who would win:
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[martenest]

And I was pissed off at Estonians comments with the fake map which is "Russians study at school"

Fake map my ass, it was sent to an Estonian newspaper from an Estonian family in Russia. A mother was helping his child with homework when she found the map in geography book.

[Fatboy_Rob]

Tice, I'm didn't mean

(even though it's nothing compared to how many terrorists we killed)

as in "Yea, they killed 5,000 of us, but we turned around and murdered 500,000 of their fucking asses! YEA AMERICA FUCK YEA".

No, I meant it as in, "Though they may have killed a small handful of us, around 5,000, we've successfully killed close to 100,000 (And most definitely more.)"

Wiki:
4,119 dead as of July 15th 2008. As of March 2008 there were 8,914 wounded requiring medical air transport. 20,416 wounded did not require medical air transport. Of all the wounded 13,109 were unable to return to duty within 72 hours. Medical air transport was required for an additional 8,273 for non-hostile injuries, and for 23,052 for diseases or other medical conditions.

[DiheSforza]

(even though it's nothing compared to how many terrorists we killed)

Why you so sure what all of them were terrorists?
I guess this is just a American propaganda, which says what you`re always right...

[Fatboy_Rob]

I think Iraqi's and Afghans are doing a pretty good job dealing with Americans, sure, American's army kills alot of Iraqi's, but its the same with Iraqi's, they are holding their own.

They're not holding their own, I'm sorry, but you're wrong.
Look at the statistics man, yea, anyone can set of IED's, and throw nades over a wall and kill one or two, but look at how many of us they killed (Be aware, that the Death Count is closely kept up with Americans), and how many us Americans killed.

Yes, there are always dumbass people in this world, doing dumbass things, not just in America.
Oh wait... watch that video I posted a couple posts up, maybe you'll see a glimps of 'holding their own' that you claim they held up.
They're untrained, unorganized, underpowered, whereas, the Americas are professionally trained, extremely organized, WELL powered against them.

America is winning the war.

Why you so sure what all of them were terrorists?
I guess this is just a American propaganda, which says what you`re always right...

So, let me guess, you think Americans are over there, slaughtering civillians for no reason?
Do you know that we're over there helping the civillians also?
I guess this is just an Iraqi Propaganda, which says we're always wrong..

[Jubin]

And I was pissed off at Estonians comments with the fake map which is "Russians study at school"...

http://fishki.net/comment.php?id=39103
Here you go, proof.