I apologise to everyone who reads this:

[Boromir]

Well, here's what you DO and what you DON'T do..

Do's:
Remember in kindergarden they always said, "To get respect, you must earn it."? Well that's total bullshit.
 
Don'ts:
DO NOT tell a teacher.. The moment you do that, you will lose TOTAL respect.
DO NOT try to yell at them - They will out number you, if you're alone.
DO NOT even pay attention to them - just walk past them..

It is true that people tend to disrespect and scorn those who dont have any powerful appearances.
However, everything that you give out to the others will be given back to you...
It applies to the respect as well.. So it is not bullshit.. You should respect other people if you want to get treated respectfully.

Telling a teacher might not only cause you to lose respect, but also solve all problems.
Which one do you prefer?: Getting beaten up at school everyday till graduation to defend your pride or telling someone to get them kicked out of or suspended from the school. It is your choice..

Well, I've never got beaten up in my life since I know how to fight. I wasnt a bully, but I used to beat up those who tried to mess up with me. I never lost in fights in my life. I guess it is because of some taekwondo knowledges and skills I have.

The main point is the confidence.. They are apt to disrespect and underrate you because you do nothing when they hit you. They think they can hit you anytime they want.. Thats how bullies think.
One more fact about bullies... They dont know how to fight.. They just gang up with other retards.
If more than one person mess up with you, get all of their names and report to the main office..
They will be arrested or at least suspended. However, if only one kid tries to get over your pride, kick his ass.. 40% Skills 60% Confidence for fights.. I am not really suggesting you to fight since you will get in trouble as well, but if you really want to show your real self to them... Do what I advise you.
Once you prove that you can fight against them, they wont be nearby you anymore.

One last advice from me..
You should have pity for those bullies too.. since most of them are grown up without parents or stable family.

[Anto]

I can say one thing to you David, listen carefully...

There will always be people like that in your life, the key is to make yourself better than them, listen in class, get better grades, they may insult and beat on you now, but you will be the one smiling when you have the classy car, the classy salary, the classy woman, the classy life. People like that are what I call 'Wasters', your only a kid, this thing comes and goes, you have your whole life ahead of you, so study in school now and laugh at them later when they are cleaning the streets, on the social welfare money, and some of them end up on the streets becuase they didnt get an education.

Pick yourself up David, Do not let this get to you!!, be strong man.

 :ps: about the girl, screw her, there are a million just like her and better, trust me, I have the same situation as you.

[Jubin]

First of all let me remind you and to everybody that Argonath is a community, it means we all support each other [mostly by giving advice]. So if you have something on your mind just tell us, we discuss it, whether it is a good or a bad thing. So don't apologize for these type of topics.

Now to your text:

At the moment, I am suffering from an insane amount of depression. I have no friends at school and I get bullied every day of my school life.
I walk into school every day and get punched/kicked/insulted. Two days ago I was doing work at school in my free time and someone threw a stereo at me...

Why are you depressed? Because you have no friends at school? Now think, do those guys even deserve to be your friends? I know, that from my old school I only found one decent guy.

Why does this happen to me? You tell me. I am nice and friendly to everyone and yet I get treated like shit. In fact, worse than shit. Shit does not get insulted or beaten up!

Ok, if you are nice and friendly think, do you show it out, that you are nice and friendly? I think you are moreover a shy guy, who doesn't communicate with people a lot. Because of that people will usually make their opinions out of your looks.

 :ps: Shit does not get insulted or beaten up, it gets flushed down the toilet. It's worse.

This happened to me at my old school...and I was bullied at my primary school, so it is not the people at school...the problem is me.

It is the people at school, unless you pick a fight yourself, because in every school there are bullies, the people who encourages bullies and people who don't give a rat's ass.

I have friends outside of school...but they don't make an effort to see me.
I know a girl who I REALLY like. I told her how I feel about her and she doesn't give a crap about me...

Does always friends have to make the effort to see you? Put a little effort yourself, to see your friends.
Well if she doesn't give a crap then it is not meant to be. I bet you will meet a lot of other girls in the future, don't over think about these problems.

Basically, I am miserable...always have been. If I seem happy ingame or on MSN that's because I am only happy when talking to people I actually like. That's right, you people are the only people I like. Argonath is my way of escaping from the world and everything in it that has a problem with me...

Well ok, it will sound a little bit like a cliche but, running away from your problems don't solve anything [ well actually sometimes it does]. So if you got times, prepare yourself, think situations trough and think what are the possible outcomes to every your move.

[Dr J. Cohen]

Im gonna sound abit negative here:

DO not just smile and wait till school is over while they are kicking 4 moons out of you.

Havent you spoke to the council or anything, I really hate this stuff.

Ive never really been beaten up or anything but i do get insulted alot just for wearing glasses.

I have a way better life than 95% kids in my year.

I do loads of voluntary youth work, i work part time in a supermarket (with friends there), i have friends outside of school (dont really go out with them since i got work), im supported by alot of people in the community.

But i dont get along with most teachers or students.


The one thing that minimized my "Bullying" was speaking to the ONLY teacher i trusted.
There was only one teacher i 100% trusted in the whole school and i knew if she couldn't help no-one could.
At the time she was only my form tutor, but she always has and hopefully will always support me.
Now shes the deputy head of my year, and shes still doing what she has done for me.
She informs me when she hears about me in her classes.

My point is.. Speak to one person you trust 100%. If you dont trust any teacher/staff that much then speak to your local council (annonmyous) tell them where and when it happens, they can check CCTV near and then one day they could wait near by with police or community support officers and catch them in the act and then they are all arrested.

Sorry for the long speech but this gets on my nerves.
Today some idiot sprayed the back of my head with some thing that smelt of fire and i had all bits in my hair and it wouldnt come out i had to get a shower straight away and was late for work.

But now hopefully they saw the cameras and he will be sorted.


But the moral is...
Trust only who trusts you.

[stiffler2100]

i used to have this problem in primary school, but then i started sticking up for myself. don't take shit from no one, if someone kicks you, kick them back 10 times harder and tell them to fuck off. having long hair caused people to take the piss in my school...but they soon stopped let them know you don't shit and they wont give you shit. good luck :P.

[Anto]

Trust only who trusts you.

So true.

[Carhartt]

Never had this problem yet, I feel sorry for you David.
And yeah, the others are right, there are always guys who like you, you also have friends, believe me.
Do not react on their stupid comments and crap, then they'll reach what they wanted wanted.
Just ignore those idiots, be friendly to everyone and I think you'll have success.
Perhaps you should change the school and make a new start at another one, on the last day you could tell those bastards what they did to you and how it felt and that they are some fucking idiots.

Good luck!

[LillMumin]

It hurts to read this, i know what ur talking about, but i cant say i understand. It's not like that to me, but.. It shouldnt be that for anyone. And i dont got much tips on how to solve it.  "/

[Cross]

Argh, i aint the kinda typ that gives good advise...
In my view it would be: give them some rams on the nose, don't let them fuck with you.
But i also know not everybody is as agresive as me.

The reason why nobody ever picked on me even tho i have my own style and i don't follow any trent is because i don't let anybody fuck me over.
I don't care how big they are, how tough they are, how many they are (well that kinda plays a role tho, if they are with 8 guys then its alittle diffrent).
I was always the kinda guy if somebody had a problem with me, i let them feel not to fuck with me.
Costed me lots of trouble tho, but you can't keep 2 sides happy, Its: Or you are the big macho, or you are the guy who almost never talks.
The guy who never talks is the teachers best friend, the macho is the asshole.

Just be yourself, that aint enough, then fuck them.
They hit you, you hit them twice as hard.
Let them fuck with you, they will never stop.
Walk away from the problem, you will never forgive yourself...

[Gillie_Da_Kid]

I apologise to everyone who reads this topic...it is boring and depressing. It is basically something which I HAVE to say to everyone or I simply can't cope any longer...


At the moment, I am suffering from an insane amount of depression. I have no friends at school and I get bullied every day of my school life.
I walk into school every day and get punched/kicked/insulted. Two days ago I was doing work at school in my free time and someone threw a stereo at me...

Why does this happen to me? You tell me. I am nice and friendly to everyone and yet I get treated like shit. Infact, worse than shit. Shit does not get insulted or beaten up!

This happened to me at my old school...and I was bullied at my primary school, so it is not the people at school...the problem is me.

Outside of school is better, but sad. I have little or no social life apart from Stagecoach on saturday mornings and seeing my dad...

I have friends outside of school...but they don't make an effort to see me.

I know a girl who I REALLY like. I told her how I feel about her and she doesn't give a crap about me...

I have a father who I tell about these problems and he doesn't give me advice...just tells me that there is a problem...as if I didn't know that!

Basically, I am miserable...always have been. If I seem happy ingame or on MSN that's because I am only happy when talking to people I actually like. That's right, you people are the only people I like. Argonath is my way of escaping from the world and everything in it that has a problem with me...

So, I apologise to everyone who has read this. I just had to get it off my chest...if you know what I mean

And please, do not try to make fun of me. I have problems, yes...but that does not mean I am not a person like you. I have feelings like the rest of you, so please show me the respect of not taking the piss.

Yeah, I have the same problem. How about being threatened everyday, always being talked about in class. I hate this so much. I am in the same situation and with girls as well. Scissors being thrown at me.. This isn't a joke. Hopefully Lob won't reply to this. and say good riddiance

[Axel]

Yeah, I have the same problem. How about being threatened everyday, always being talked about in class. I hate this so much. I am in the same situation and with girls as well. Scissors being thrown at me.. This isn't a joke. Hopefully Lob won't reply to this. and say good riddiance

Wonder why  :redface:

[Gillie_Da_Kid]

Wonder why  :redface:

No need to be rude.

[Aragorn]

Usual situation for schools...

1. The best way - to be one of the most successful students...
We had in our class three groups... One was the middle one, the biggest, who were treating others like a shit...
Second group were "fighters" for their rights... They had to be always on top which is difficult... And third group was the best students who always got good points and always did a homework... That were one guy and three girls... And what I liked they ignored all blah blah on them...

Those who were not stupid, understood that school will pass and this guys will get the best places in universities and institutes... And so - the best work... Those, who were stupid - you will not teach to understand... So do not try...

Make your homework, study, start thinking which specialization you gonna chose, develop your hobby interests... Some guys become a good paid from their hobbies... For example, started interest in programming - got after school a good job as programmer...

2. School is not for making love or friends... School is your education... And your education is only your own business...

3. About friends... Friends are not people chosen by you... Its just some day you tell to someone "you are my friend"... Does not depend which situations and what he did for you or what you did for him... It comes itself...
Still school friends are not that permanently as any other friends...

If you have no friend - just nobody answers your feelings on friendship...

4. Girls in schools usually do not care about boyfriend and love... All what they really like - many boys around... This is the age when girls also try to find their place in schools society and number of fans is one of the most "respectable" for girls teens... If someone like them girls take it as "award"...

The funniest thing - start ignore the girl and she will try to attract your attention herself...

5. You can talk to teacher if you think you need it... Nothing bad in that... If you feel that you wanna talk to some - just talk after lessons... Its always good to know the adults opinion...

6. Father... Tell father your feelings that you feel he is not interested in your life at school... And that you need his help as he is the one adult you trust really... Ask him to listen to you once and tell him you need advice... Usually fathers do not understand the problems of sons when it said once and at some time like breakfast...

Hope it will help you... Good luck...

[Bianconeri]

i have had this problems too,
i am 1 of smarter ppl(doing though education, but later big loads of $  :banana: ) , but no study at all, no learning,
certainly not after school, maybe that helped
i am always nice and friendly guy, but first years i had problems too,
last year a bit too,
but luckily it isnt that bad anymore,
and it kept with word, not throwing things,
and with girls, always nice good together, but not anything more nothing goods
(well had girl for 5 years)

this is something happens at study ppl(smart ppl) maybe start to talk around in class,
dont always be the good boy at school, it might help some
luckily personally i dont make wars,
and dont be too aggresive, say something but dont start attacking

wish you good luck.

[Chase]

School is hard for me too, but this is what keeps me going: Focus on your education more than the others, then soon you will have a good job while most of the people that have picked on you work at your local McDonald's. I have a mental problem called Asperger Syndrome ( I know it sounds funny ), and during elementary school, kids would be horrible to me. Since I don't know social skills very well, they would pick on me. I would even try to fit in by trying to play sports with the other kids in the school yard, but I didn't understand how to play and didn't know. So they would tell me how to play wrong, but the thing is, even though I looked stupid, I wasn't. I knew way more about computers than the other kids, and all my teachers knew I was smart. I make all A's and B's. I don't have to study, because of good memory and I actually pay attention. I don't handle stress and anger too well though. Whatever you do - DON'T stop focusing on education, and DON'T drop out. If you need to talk to me, contact me on msn.