A not-so-brief history of =CM= (first recruitment topic)

[Cross]

In my eyes, ML is using CM at the moment.
Becouse ML is nothing, a gang that just started.
CM can be ruined becouse of this mistake.
And afcourse ML is saying that you are great ally's.
But remember, There is no change of joining the powerfull alliance if you are  ally with ML.

[hell1989]

 And what new information do you have on Abramovich?

[Dome]

In my eyes, ML is using CM at the moment.
Becouse ML is nothing, a gang that just started.
CM can be ruined becouse of this mistake.
And afcourse ML is saying that you are great ally's.
But remember, There is no change of joining the powerfull alliance if you are  ally with ML.

Meh i think the same that they are using us.

[Cross]

CM it NOT ally to ML anymore
Deal made with daniel.
There will stay nuatral

[Jcstodds]

  Good to hear that, because you realise that if they hadnt been allies you wouldnt have been involved. You wouldnt have had your leader assasinated, and you wouldnt have exposed poor allied strategy and tactics.

  Just remember, we are small gang, but not being able to kill one of us yesterday says something about your coordination. [ML] especially, running around the map like headless chickens  .
  You have many players, use that to your advantage- 2 to a car and go on TS or something so you all know whats goin on around you, this is what makes a sucesful gang- communication. 

Im glad this has all been clarrified,
-jcstodds-

Ps. [ALS] is a business, we do not usually delve in gang diplomacy, but members of [AE] and _dragons I know well and are our friends, but other than that, our services are for hire, and we get the job done. Proffesionally. 

[Tice]

  Good to hear that, because you realise that if they hadnt been allies you wouldnt have been involved. You wouldnt have had your leader assasinated, and you wouldnt have exposed poor allied strategy and tactics.

  Just remember, we are small gang, but not being able to kill one of us yesterday says something about your coordination. [ML] especially, running around the map like headless chickens  .
  You have many players, use that to your advantage- 2 to a car and go on TS or something so you all know whats goin on around you, this is what makes a sucesful gang- communication. 

Im glad this has all been clarrified,
-jcstodds-

Ps. [ALS] is a business, we do not usually delve in gang diplomacy, but members of [AE] and _dragons I know well and are our friends, but other than that, our services are for hire, and we get the job done. Proffesionally. 

Wait a second, let's go over the facts:

There were five =CM= online, two were in Los Santos.
We normally go 4 to a car (4 door, of cource :/) to run errands.

Although I agree with you about communication, normilly we have great orginisation, but it broke down yesterday due to Daniel not telling me the plans. If you noticed, we didn't fire a single shot at [ALS] (atleast, I didn't see anyone do it) - we were too busy trying to gather.

Please don't insult our capability, we are a reletively new gang and never formed to fight wars.

But I have to say I am also glad it's all ended, maybe we can get back to normal...

EDIT: I've just noticed this, and as I hate to say it: It's ignorance in it's purest form.

Firstly lets clear up a few things...

  Stop trying to say how all poewrful you are, because last night you outnumbered us, yet none of us died once. This is typical of new gangs. [ALS] have been around a lot longer, and dont need 30 people to show force, just to let you know.

  Oh, and how it started (I doont think they remember)... an [ML] crew rolled into LV. We followed them. They stopped on the strip, so did we, we got out no weapons showing. I shouted 'hold fire'. We did. I was going to ask whats going on, however they got out, and started firing, so we killed them. Then you call for 'rienforcement' and start ranting about war etc. Hell got his revenge, they are equal, then many of you try to attack. Some of you die, go back and then all have a meeting. Yes I did order a ceasefire, and have heard that it was broken.

  Hells assassination of your leader was a 'retaliation' of your own retaliation, which you shouldnt have conjured in the first place as [ML] attacked us first. We killed [ML] , and that could have been it, over. You shouldnt have got involved, however I do believe you were mislead by [ML] at the time, and that is why I ordered ceasefire.

Anyway, I go to college now, so I will be back in 6 hours to see what this thread becomes, and hopefully it is not a flame thread

[ALS]leader,
jcstodds

Please, just please tell me where we have acted 'powerful'. Oops, you can't - because we haven't.

And the classic insult about our members AGAIN? I think I'm going to kill myself if I have to do this again:

Each and every one of our members do the same job to see if they are worthy of joining. They all have completed it and are allowed to join (with permission from me or Daniel). We have had alot of interest and I usually get about 2-3 calls every time I log on asking to join. The memberbase will slow down as time goes on.

READ IT.

I didn't know what happened in the ''war'', so I won't comment.

We were simply defending our allies on what they had told us, how were we to know better?

I would type a huge essay on this, but I really can't be bothered anymore - nobody seems to get the point and resorts to ''omg u guyze u haev loadses or membras wtf lol!111 nooebs!!#''

[Jcstodds]

  If you want to take it that way, that is ok, not my problem

Wait a second, let's go over the facts:

And the classic insult about our members AGAIN? I think I'm going to kill myself if I have to do this again:

I didn't know what happened in the ''war'', so I won't comment.

We were simply defending our allies on what they had told us, how were we to know better?

Im not sure where i have insulted your members, simply commented on their organisation, please tell me, and then I will remove if you feel it is an attack   .
  I cant help seeing that you say they are facts, yet contradict by saying you dont know what happened, so how do i believe that? Because I know what happened. If you did not shoot at us, then it was [ML], but that is for u to decide, because at the time you were their allies and they tried to kill us, and you admit you dont know what hapenned.
  Oh, and please, which part is ignorance? "Because how were you supposed to know better?" Find out what happened first, find out what you are up against, and then plan your move, dont go in all guns blazin'
Posted on: May 03, 2007, 06:03:43 PM

Please, just please tell me where we have acted 'powerful'.

Here, and from this do you see where i got that idea from?>>>>

  Now you are like a CHiken trying to stop [ML] =CM= Aliance because you know we are powerfull. WE can have peace but you cant stop an alliance only because is your wish. :gun:

EDIT: I've just noticed this, and as I hate to say it: It's ignorance in it's purest form.

 Oops, you can't - because we haven't.

   
   Now I have, although hinted, not been arrogant about [ALS], yet you acuse us of being ignorant is an attack, and I have not attakced your own group directly, your allies maybe, but not you. I do not want war, on the forums or ingame, but it seems [ML] have caused the trouble, and I have been caught up somehow in it. I will remove anything you dont like, and im not trying to attack you purposefully, and I apologise if you take it that way, however if you want to be critical, I will be also.

Regards,
Jcstodds

[Tice]

  If you want to take it that way, that is ok, not my problem

Im not sure where i have insulted your members, simply commented on their organisation, please tell me, and then I will remove if you feel it is an attack   .
  I cant help seeing that you say they are facts, yet contradict by saying you dont know what happened, so how do i believe that? Because I know what happened. If you did not shoot at us, then it was [ML], but that is for u to decide, because at the time you were their allies and they tried to kill us, and you admit you dont know what hapenned.
  Oh, and please, which part is ignorance? "Because how were you supposed to know better?" Find out what happened first, find out what you are up against, and then plan your move, dont go in all guns blazin'
Posted on: May 03, 2007, 06:03:43 PMHere, and from this do you see where i got that idea from?>>>>   
   Now I have, although hinted, not been arrogant about [ALS], yet you acuse us of being ignorant is an attack, and I have not attakced your own group directly, your allies maybe, but not you. I do not want war, on the forums or ingame, but it seems [ML] have caused the trouble, and I have been caught up somehow in it. I will remove anything you dont like, and im not trying to attack you purposefully, and I apologise if you take it that way, however if you want to be critical, I will be also.

Regards,
Jcstodds

I've had a pretty bad day, so ignore my insults. :/

I know it wasn't an attack, but it seems harsh without reason. To be still accusing us of trying to be powerful through memberbase isn't the nicest thing to say, and I've explained it about 300 times...

The reason I know the facts is that I was online when Daniel told me what was happening, and from that point on I timed out nearly every time I logged on. I couldn't tell what was happening.

I see where you got the idea from the first quote, though that wasn't a =CM= member, and we don't have attitudes like that. We're modest about ourselves. The second quote, I don't see how that's attempting to be powerful...

And lastly, I know you don't boast about [ALS], but as I said, I've had a bad day today, and have thrown a few f's about on the server today at people. Just ignore that comment, it was stupid of me. We now realise that it was all provoked by [ML] and we have broken alliance with them. Don't remove anything from your posts, it's unneeded. I accept most of this as my fault but I take critisism very personally, and try to defend myself and my gang.

[Jcstodds]

Thats ok    I dont like posting things like that, and im sure you dont. Anyway, it is good that you have split from [ML], and i think we should wipe the slate :army: clean.

[Tice]

it is good that you have split from [ML], and i think we should wipe the slate :army: clean.

Good idea. Hopefully we can all just get back to normal.

In other news: I've pruned the member list of people I haven't seen in a while.

[hell1989]

 good idea, I just joined Dragons

[Tice]

UPDATE: =CM= is now allied with The Dragons

[Dome]

Lol ok we had this fun with el this night plus we had this shoot the hydra down minigame with cm members and dragon members + some normal cityzens (sRy,Mihail etc.) it was really fun and we had a good night

 :ps: update the second command thing x3

... what i just heard from this birdy guy from ml  he said that were allies again with ML?
If it is, im quitting.

[Tice]

... what i just heard from this birdy guy from ml  he said that were allies again with ML?
If it is, im quitting.

If you seriously believe that, I think you should quit :/
Posted on: May 04, 2007, 05:05:16 PM*Updated with new members

[CM Daniel]

2 Things bother me:

First is: Why is everybody doing business behind my back?? I mean I never agreed with an allience, I only agreed with being neutral.
And there we come with point number 2. Allot of people (including my own maffia) seem to be attacking [ML]. This is however unacceptable. I can't stop the other gangs/clans from fighting with [ML], but I can STOP mine. I never said we were enemies! So:

No [CM] member kills an [ML] member from this point on!

Just that [ML] starts alliences with clans/maffia's to grow, doesn't mean that they're bad. After all, almost every clan/maffia did it. I mean, the Dragons are telling me it's wise to team up with them and [AE], because then we're really powerfull. Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't this seem to be the exact same situation as with [ML]?

I don't care what everybody thinks about my opinion, I won't change it.. Live with it.

With kind regards,

Daniel