The Gvardia Family || San Fierro's Main Power || Best criminal group of 09/10/11

[Eugene]

Why do you have a black skin when you are the boss of a mafia? In real life blacks can only be associates, they can't even be in a mafia ...  I'm not critisizing or trying to be, i just find that really wierd :S

stop being racist,
blacks are people too

[Niall]

stop being racist,
blacks are people too

It's posts like these that makes me glad you don't roleplay with Stracci.

You know, i could argue against your accusation that i wasn't being racist but anyone with a half a brain that seen my post will know i wasn't, i just pointed out that the rules in real life are that a black guy cannot be in the mafia. Which is true. Unless it's a black mafia. But seeing as you have Italian rank structure i assume it's not.

[Romeo]

Why do you have a black skin when you are the boss of a mafia? In real life blacks can only be associates, they can't even be in a mafia ...  I'm not critisizing or trying to be, i just find that really wierd :S

Dude what the hell. Thats extremely racist, Colour/Race does not determine what rank in a mafia people should be. There are American Mafia's, Cuban Mafia's, Japanese Yakuza's, Italian mafia's ect. They are all Different races, and guess what? There leaders are not all WHITE.


So please. Dont post Racist comments on people's pages, and people can chose whichever skin they wish to play.

It's posts like these that makes me glad you don't roleplay with Stracci.

You know, i could argue against your accusation that i wasn't being racist but anyone with a half a brain that seen my post will know i wasn't, i just pointed out that the rules in real life are that a black guy cannot be in the mafia. Which is true. Unless it's a black mafia. But seeing as you have Italian rank structure i assume it's not.

What rules? Dude, it is clear you know nothing about how the Mafia's IRL opperate, they do not judge by colour, but by the person THEMSELF.
And you dont need to be Italian to be in a mafia.

and BTW, this is a GAME, so people can do what they like, dont judge them (:

[Niall]

Dude what the hell. Thats extremely racist, Colour/Race does not determine what rank in a mafia people should be. There are American Mafia's, Cuban Mafia's, Japanese Yakuza's, Italian mafia's ect. They are all Different races, and guess what? There leaders are not all WHITE.


So please. Dont post Racist comments on people's pages, and people can chose whichever skin they wish to play.
What rules? Dude, it is clear you know nothing about how the Mafia's IRL opperate, they do not judge by colour, but by the person THEMSELF.
And you dont need to be Italian to be in a mafia.

and BTW, this is a GAME, so people can do what they like, dont judge them (:

Ok you pissed me off.

His mafia is italian judging by his rank structure so i'm talking about the italian mafia, read my previous post PROPERLY i said unless it is a black mafia. Read a fucking mafia book in your life and you will know that blacks are not allowed to be in the mafia. I am not racist in anyway, don't be so ignorant.

I know exactly how mafias operate. Italian mafias have their own rules, i didn't make them up. And one of the rules is to not let blacks in or anyone who doesn't have at at least a father with italian heritage.

The highest a black guy can get in the La Costra Nostra is associate rank. An associate rank is outside the family. The next rank up is Soldier which is the process where they get made. I'm Irish in RL, i could never be in the mafia because i do not have blood italian heritage. IAm I being rascist against on myself? NO. I am stating the facts.

Stop playing the damn race card, it's even more insulting when i have two black cousins in rl.

I will stop arguing now because you obviously cannot read and do not understand Italian mafias. And you misinterpreted my post completely.

[9r2e5i3k]

@ Niall
You can be a clown mafia don or alien mafia don if you want to - this is a GAME.
If you bring out dividing positions and skin color - expect to be called racist.

I know exactly how mafias operate.

From autopsy? 

[Anthony]

Looks great, good luck with it! 

[Eugene]

If you know so much about mafias and what they should be,
then why is your name Victor and u are in Italian mafia (stracci)? thats a russian/slovak name (maybe american)

[Marting_Riggs]

Capo leaders please start posting in the capo section that way even though you not on-line they know what to do unless instructed to do something else by Leaders in that section i will make a top priority that of things we need done


Thanks


 :ps: Jenny have you gone away have not seen you in awhile only set to away on msn


Joe Gvardia

Underboss

[Niall]

If you know so much about mafias and what they should be,
then why is your name Victor and u are in Italian mafia (stracci)? thats a russian/slovak name (maybe american)

Tell that to the Mario Puzo, the write of the godfather. You know? That film and book where Stracci got its name. Because that's the Stracci Families dons name in the Godfather. Also not that it matters (because it's a game) but in real life it's not the first name that matters, it's the surname.

@ Niall
From autopsy? 

I read books and watch films and documentrys. I don't pretend to know lots about the mafia either, this is just something i do know.

@ Niall
You can be a clown mafia don or alien mafia don if you want to - this is a GAME.

Jesus, i'm not trying to tell anyone how to run their mafia, i was just pointing it that in real life Italian or La Costra Nostra mafias do not allow blacks to enter as members, they are restricted to associate rank only, which is outside the family. Do i call it rascist if my RP character is white and i get rejected from baby block crips or bloods? Nope.

Look at my post.

Why do you have a black skin when you are the boss of a mafia? In real life blacks can only be associates, they can't even be in a mafia ...  I'm not critisizing or trying to be, i just find that really wierd :S

See any hostility? See me trying to tell him to run his mafia? I know it's a game, i know how flexible games ( or indeed this server ) can be around lore, and i don't argue with that, in fact i like that this server has individuality. You may have took me to be racist but if you know me in real life you would not say that.

I hate the way people are twisting my words, calling me rascist, escalating this situation when i just posted a simple comment. It's like people are blaming me for saying the rules of the Italian and La Costra Nostra mafia, as if i made them up or something.

[Pandalink]

If you know so much about mafias and what they should be,
then why is your name Victor and u are in Italian mafia (stracci)? thats a russian/slovak name (maybe american)

A name reflects nothing upon your character.
I will let people use black skins in Araatus by request if they really must. Mainly because I really don't care.

You will however notice that none of the Araatus Leaders specifically mods a skin to be black.

He does have a point. It would be different if it was for example an ingame skin.. But its a mod which you specifically chose. You can't be a high rank in Italian Mafias AFAIK if you do not have at least an Italian bloodline on the father's side.
Still, you could technically have a black mother and an Italian father by that simple logic, but I don't know how that'd work.

And to all the people playing the "racist" card. You're being fairly ignorant.
White people can't be in some African-American street gangs. RACIST?!
No..

[Pandalink]

On another note, I have a point to bring up..

Guys, what is with this whole "We won't roleplay with them and them or these guys." stuff?
You've "blocked roleplay" with Araatus' three most powerful (or at least most situationally helpful) allies, which whilst not actually affecting Araatus that much, seems a little strange to me.

I find it odd that you just "don't roleplay" with Cems, Stracci, or Luvineri. You're considerably limiting yourselves, and generally isolating yourself from everyone. You can't even play the "We're a San Fierro Mafia, we only deal with SF Mafias." card because of what you've done with Luvineri.

Guys, if you want to have anyone to even talk to, I really suggest you stop isolating yourself from the most successful groups. You call yourself "San Fierro's Most Dangerous" yet you will soon not be speaking to any other San Fierro groups anyway. You cut off Luvineri, forced Leone to close, and if you continue to cut off Araatus' allies will also find no contact from us. Araatus' strong alliances is one of it's inherent strengths, and you can't expect a fair fight if we can't call on them to help out.

Incidentally, if you interfere with, for example, the Luvineri drugs trade (or whatever else) then they will have full right to take action, and nobody will stop them.
And "interfering with" does indeed count as selling drugs, anywhere.

Just wanted to know what your intentions are with this "no roleplaying with these groups" policy, since it seems rather strange and actually very inappropriate to me.

Thanks.

[hell1989]

I partly agree Panda, why should we get to make up a rule so we don't RP with other gangs? In the beginning the rule was added because we were new in San Fierro and wanted no outside influences to effect any decisions and having RP with Los Santos gangs such as Cems is something a real mafia would not do anyway. I mean maybe you might contact for a small drug deal, but mafias don't concern themselves with street gangs that live in a whole different city. We don't plan on ever living in Los Santos or spending much time for events either. I will talk with leaders about this "NO RP" Rule, I don't think we should restrict anyone.

[Cofiliano]

I will explain Panda.

We DID put a rule abaut Stracci/Cems, not cause we dont respect both of group, or we find we are too good for them, its just was a MESURE to ensure not to get back in CM-Stracci wars, like we all was with SM, Barzini,SSC,GSF etc.
We dont have anything against them, i personaly respect some of them, some of them i dont LIKE, but doesnt mean i dont respect them, cause hell, its just a game. BTW this rule have it RP reason, cause us and Leone made the same rule, in order to make ``SF story``, and it was more like temporary thing, untill we make SF alive a bit, then a terminated one. Abaut Leone, i was most sad when that got closed, but it didnt have much to do with us, as you see, 2 of the members of Leone are in Gvardia, Kent and Rusty,  and i dont think they woud join a group that causes there own group to closed.

Abaut Luvineri, the thing is, you are aware of how you and me made a nice agrement like mature ppl without provoking or aruging.
i tryed to resolved the issue that Johnny constant have with Gvardia. As i said, the thing that piss me off, and that he coud not understand, or maybe is my fault that i didnt explain good, is, that after there helping you guys at action in our HQ, they are under the rules of combat we made, wich means that they can expect atack at any time, and that they cant one day call that action ``helping Araatus``, and other day call it ``Dm-eched by Eugene`` cause its hipocritical, dont you think?
So i was trying to tell him, either accept the rules of combat that You and Me made, or dont get in to fights, but dont come one day and atack our HQ , cause of  OURS  combat rules , and other day, when you get atacked, you scream : DM-er!, make a pics send report, spam me on pm abaut how Gvardia DM,  w/e and spam our topic.

I was trying MANY times to explain it to him, he got his emotions faster then brain, and he just continue his story how he gonna send complain abaut Eugene or w/e, so i said to him: Sure, go ahed, its your right. But that wasnt eoungh, he need it to coment on our topic name, on our in group talking, on anything that was conected to Gvardia, he need it to make his opinion.

At the end i told him: ``Dude, please just IGNORE what Gvardia does, you have your own family, deal with that``, cause all that he did, and you can see it by going few pages in back, was : Gvardia this, Gvardia that, etc. And it went to far.

We dont have a problem with ANYONE, i said that we WONT do nothing with Luvs, untill he calm down his emotion and talk from neutral non-sided view, cause i dont wanna give him any reason, so he can start again with his Gvardia talk.

And, btw this is the last time i am talking abaut it, everything else, that is not understandable, i will asnwer in pm, on ANY quesiton.

[shitix]

Dude nooone told me about the rules you made with Panda, i got asked for help by him so me and Julian did so. after that you said you wehre allowed to kill us for no reason but that stands in the rules of Argonath: NO DEATHMACHING. so ive got alot of flame from gvardia you think i like getting flamed every day? if i flame you you start CAPS my PM and send it 3 times so i can read it? is that how it works? after you put that rule i feel more free to play. and i was trying take care of luvineri, but Gvardia was in my way. thats all i have to say to you.

[killer_olari]

Most dangerous??HAHA