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Reply #45 on: May 06, 2009, 01:10:13 am
If you have no proper means of communication or no ways to check the logs then you should not warn first investigate later, you should investigate first and warn depending on the results. That's like some redneck lying and claiming he saw a russian fighter jet and then the american government instantly nuking russian without finding out any facts. That is all i'm saying...

Ok i will drop this because believe it or not i also hate arguing about this, you slandering me about my demotion just kicked me off, but perhaps i was too bold about you in my comments before that.

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Reply #46 on: May 06, 2009, 01:17:02 am
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There you go. ;)

This is about gangwars, not about who is the best of you to.. But I agree to what Niall said first.


I dont think its good idea to allow DM between mafias Jack.

I like shooting but i like rp more.


Damn, Xeuq... The whole time I've been here, shooting & dealing drugs have been my roleplay purposes. I'm not basically doing anything else when I'm online.
It must been over a year or more since someone complained that I dmed someone etc. I do rob people, I do shoot people, I do try to create some kind of gangs & make war with rival gangs, I do that kind of things all the time. So if you can roleplay properly & as far as you are making it look good, it won't be a problemo.
And seriously, if you got anything against what a player did to you in a battle or so, take it as a man & remember his name & make a roleplay situation against him the day after or maybe a couple of hours later. Your choice, it isn't harder..

So sorry, I don't get what you mean by you wrote above.



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Reply #47 on: May 07, 2009, 01:17:39 am
If you have no proper means of communication or no ways to check the logs then you should not warn first investigate later, you should investigate first and warn depending on the results. That's like some redneck lying and claiming he saw a russian fighter jet and then the american government instantly nuking russian without finding out any facts. That is all i'm saying...

Ok i will drop this because believe it or not i also hate arguing about this, you slandering me about my demotion just kicked me off, but perhaps i was too bold about you in my comments before that.

Yes, It was pretty bold. It was also pretty dumb of me to just spew out a comment on your demotion. You and I are pretty much alike in a way. We react in much the same way to comments and use much in the same way of , how could I put this..., "context" if you get what I mean.

Lets just forget about what happened with GSF. All I know that what I done was right baed on the information I had at hand. I had near 20 complaints and if you don't think that is enough to give a warning then well that's your opinion.

I hate arguing about it too. And as much as this sounds cliched, that time was actually one of the worst times I had on Argonath. I mean, yeah, I loves the admin work but now I can relax and play more rather than work.




@ Woody - Not funny in the slightest. We know that exists and we have each other added as contacts. But what is on Argonath stays on Argonath. I do not like to bring it into "Real Life" now seeing as there is not much to talk about now.



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Reply #48 on: May 07, 2009, 12:00:21 pm
@ Woody - Not funny in the slightest. We know that exists and we have each other added as contacts. But what is on Argonath stays on Argonath. I do not like to bring it into "Real Life" now seeing as there is not much to talk about now.

It wasn't ment to be fun. As I've seen you bring big conversations out of small things plenty of times. Do that in PM instead, or use msn or whatever instead of doing it here. And if you don't want to make a big thing out of it, just ignore what the person said. It ain't harder.



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Reply #49 on: May 07, 2009, 01:30:13 pm
It wasn't ment to be fun. As I've seen you bring big conversations out of small things plenty of times. Do that in PM instead, or use msn or whatever instead of doing it here. And if you don't want to make a big thing out of it, just ignore what the person said. It ain't harder.

I know it wasn't meant to be funny. I don't bring big conversations out of big things for no reason. There is alot of stuff that you have no seen that makes me do such things so don't criticise and lecture me on this matter. And i'm not going to ignore someone who constantly criticises me on my job and "Everything I did was wrong" even though I had never been told off or talked to about it by any of the head administration.



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Reply #50 on: May 07, 2009, 03:30:38 pm
omfg this is a topic about gang wars



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Reply #51 on: May 07, 2009, 04:19:44 pm
omfg this is a topic about gang wars

Pointless post.



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Reply #52 on: May 07, 2009, 05:04:38 pm
The fact is: Gangwars are OFCOURSE Roleplaysituations, and NO DM at all.

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Reply #53 on: May 07, 2009, 06:02:45 pm
The fact is: Gangwars are OFCOURSE Roleplaysituations, and NO DM at all.

That's not a fact, that's an opinion...

You cannot say that gangwars are always roleplay and never deathmatch. On the contrary - a "gang war" is very often just a cover and explanation for deathmatching.

But it depends on how the gang wars are organized.


Play for fun and friendship, not for stats or achievements.
If you do not want to roleplay, log off. Remember that "do not force RP" does NOT mean you can refuse to interact with other players.


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Reply #54 on: May 07, 2009, 07:11:47 pm
That's not a fact, that's an opinion...

You cannot say that gangwars are always roleplay and never deathmatch. On the contrary - a "gang war" is very often just a cover and explanation for deathmatching.

But it depends on how the gang wars are organized.

Yeah, maybe my expression was not quite right.
With RPed gangwars I do NOT mean : HEY LOOK DERE' BAM BAM BAM BAM! KILL PLZ! NAO!

Gangwars should be organized and planned by a specific gang, so it counts as RP.

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Reply #55 on: May 07, 2009, 07:18:49 pm
As I have said from the start; gang wars are fun and RP.

There is no point in the discussion of this as the rules have already been laid out for this.

Imo, this was one retarded topic, made by someone who likes to be a hero and change argonath.



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Reply #56 on: May 07, 2009, 07:28:03 pm
Gang wars = DM
IC Flaming = OOC Flaming
Grow up ffs...It all happens..Gang wars happen when 2 sides disagree..It's just andomly can happen. Good RPers that RP gang wars enjoy, and those who oppose them, when win, if they suck at RP, they will show off, if they lose, DM.



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Reply #57 on: May 07, 2009, 08:02:29 pm


Here is a video of gang wars..

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Reply #58 on: May 07, 2009, 09:01:19 pm
You know what I think is different from SA:MP Roleplay compared to MTA:VC, VC:MP, MTA:SA, something is always at stake, noone ever wants to loose, whether its money or reputation, each group wants to be known as the best, but when you play on the other Argonath servers, you don't lose anything if you get killed or anything like that, and they just have fun, and thats why I think SA:MP has gang wars, there is always something at stake. I think not all people enjoy the roleplay in SA:MP, they just want to win at all costs.

And please don't say why I'm talking about the other servers, I'm just using it as a example.



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Reply #59 on: May 08, 2009, 05:15:10 pm
You know what I think is different from SA:MP Roleplay compared to MTA:VC, VC:MP, MTA:SA, something is always at stake, noone ever wants to loose, whether its money or reputation, each group wants to be known as the best, but when you play on the other Argonath servers, you don't lose anything if you get killed or anything like that, and they just have fun, and thats why I think SA:MP has gang wars, there is always something at stake. I think not all people enjoy the roleplay in SA:MP, they just want to win at all costs.

And please don't say why I'm talking about the other servers, I'm just using it as a example.


Exactly. And gang wars will lead to people always wanting to win, and those who lose wanting a rematch under conditions that work better for them so they can win. It would just be repeatedover and over again. If you want gang wars. Suggest a system thatit could run based upon. As even "organised" fights with admins present still lead to chaos.



 


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