Dialog with the Owners

[Thomas_A]

Any updates on the MTA:SA server? 

Is yet another one SA server necessary when the one we already have has issues that have to be tackled?

You really living under a rock.

[Kowalski.]

If an MTA:SA server is desired alongside the SA:MP one, then let it happen.

I see no actual issues with it, and practically speaking, it's been done in the past, so there's the ability to have a varying roleplay experience. If it's what the community wants, go for it

[TheGreasyChopper]

Any updates on the MTA:SA server? 

Is yet another one SA server necessary when the one we already have has issues that have to be tackled?

- Huntsman 2021, after an extensive amount of research and time spent on the server.

Spoiler for Hiden:

[Kowalski.]

Can we not turn this into another bickering thread?

Mario Rinna is apparently working on bringing back the Argonath RPG MTA:SA server according to Aragorn. As far as I know, it doesn't seem like there are any practical issues with the server being up.

So, MTA:SA seems to be coming back, and so far I don't think there is any real reason for it not to.

[Sawyer]

Can we not turn this into another bickering thread?

Ask the question to the one responsible..

Just another tiny dose of SAMP salt from Huntsman on top of a massive pile. Classic. 

[Huntsman]

Just another tiny dose of SAMP salt from Huntsman on top of a massive pile. Classic. 

Aww yiss. Says the guy who's been MIA for ten years and has come back to play the hero. 

I played SAMP for longer than a good chunk of people arguing in this topic and giving me shit for no longer playing. I left due to reasons completely unrelated to SAMP (the army) and when I came back from my service it was still in its usual activity levels. I simply never found the interest in it once I returned. But I still no-lifed the shit out of it since 2009 - 2016'ish and I can obviously tell what it used to be and what it is now. It really it does not take a genius to do a simple 20=/=120 equation. So you can really stick the "oh men huntsmen no pley but salt" card up where the sun doesn't shine.

I appreciate those who still play it, and those who try to keep it active, but please do a reality check and realize that despite its improvements, even in its recent peaks it hasn't even reached the half of the playerbase it used to have.

This wasn't even the point though. We can't even populate the servers that are already operational appropriately (RageMP, for example, while having seen amazing activity lately, is nowhere near where it should be, IV:MP is dead'ish, even VC:MP took some hits to activity lately, despite having been mostly immune to the general loss of playerbase), and you are contemplating on (re)opening yet another server for the same exact game that had the exact same playerbase issue when it was around, only ten times worse? Don't you really see what the really realistic outcome of this could be?

[Kowalski.]

Can we not turn this into another bickering thread?

We've all made our points, MTA:SA is now up to Aragorn.

[Sawyer]

Just another tiny dose of SAMP salt from Huntsman on top of a massive pile. Classic. 

Aww yiss. Says the guy who's been MIA for ten years and has come back to play the hero. 

Think again. 

[Mario_Rinna]

Everybody and their grandma have a RP server, and they're always stuck within the same boring formula. /me, IC, OOC, powergaming, metagaming, jobs, inventory, houses and bizzes and cars, factions, "mafias" and "polices" , etc. Same old CTRL+C, CTRL+V copypasta shit everywhere within the global samp/mta/gta community, regardless of game, or mod, or language, everywhere. When the multiplayer mods initially appeared, this was acceptable; back then there wasn't much else you could do with samp/mta/whatever.

Why would anyone even want to make a RP serv in 2021, when there's over 2021 "different" role-play servers? Even if GTA 6 came out tomorrow and R* gave ppl the ability to make whatever server they wanted, ppl would still make RP servers. And they say COVID-19 is a terrible virus.

Then ppl start saying, "gta multiplayer is dying." Of course it is. All the servers are the same, with a bunch of random stunt/dm/dayz/hobo survival simulators sprinkled in between. Who wouldn't get bored af? I don't want to make a server that is just like all the other servers, so whatever MTA:SA server ends up being (new game-mode is a work in progress), it's not going to be a RP server, so we can put these concerns to bed.

#unpopularopinion maybe, but it's just an opinion. 

[Omri]

Everybody and their grandma have a RP server, and they're always stuck within the same boring formula. /me, IC, OOC, powergaming, metagaming, jobs, inventory, houses and bizzes and cars, factions, "mafias" and "polices" , etc. Same old CTRL+C, CTRL+V copypasta shit everywhere within the global samp/mta/gta community, regardless of game, or mod, or language, everywhere. When the multiplayer mods initially appeared, this was acceptable; back then there wasn't much else you could do with samp/mta/whatever.

Why would anyone even want to make a RP serv in 2021, when there's over 2021 "different" role-play servers? Even if GTA 6 came out tomorrow and R* gave ppl the ability to make whatever server they wanted, ppl would still make RP servers. And they say COVID-19 is a terrible virus.

Then ppl start saying, "gta multiplayer is dying." Of course it is. All the servers are the same, with a bunch of random stunt/dm/dayz/hobo survival simulators sprinkled in between. Who wouldn't get bored af? I don't want to make a server that is just like all the other servers, so whatever MTA:SA server ends up being (new game-mode is a work in progress), it's not going to be a RP server, so we can put these concerns to bed.

#unpopularopinion maybe, but it's just an opinion. 

Haha you always had a special way to påt things into perspective and unfortunately you are absolutely right about everything IMO. Looking forward to see what you mixing together,. You working on a gamemode alone or was it Cloaak that also helped develop the old MTA:SA server?

[JDC]

Everybody and their grandma have a RP server, and they're always stuck within the same boring formula. /me, IC, OOC, powergaming, metagaming, jobs, inventory, houses and bizzes and cars, factions, "mafias" and "polices" , etc. Same old CTRL+C, CTRL+V copypasta shit everywhere within the global samp/mta/gta community, regardless of game, or mod, or language, everywhere. When the multiplayer mods initially appeared, this was acceptable; back then there wasn't much else you could do with samp/mta/whatever.

Why would anyone even want to make a RP serv in 2021, when there's over 2021 "different" role-play servers? Even if GTA 6 came out tomorrow and R* gave ppl the ability to make whatever server they wanted, ppl would still make RP servers. And they say COVID-19 is a terrible virus.

Then ppl start saying, "gta multiplayer is dying." Of course it is. All the servers are the same, with a bunch of random stunt/dm/dayz/hobo survival simulators sprinkled in between. Who wouldn't get bored af? I don't want to make a server that is just like all the other servers, so whatever MTA:SA server ends up being (new game-mode is a work in progress), it's not going to be a RP server, so we can put these concerns to bed.

#unpopularopinion maybe, but it's just an opinion. 

We've had our disagreements in the past, but I wholeheartedly agree with this one. Hoping y'all have a good surprise in store for us.

[Mario_Rinna]

You working on a gamemode alone

It's JayL and me, as usual :P

Cloaak that also helped develop the old MTA:SA server

IIRC, Clooak was a scripter on the old MTA:SA team. The really old one, the 2008-2009 one. I was also on that team, maybe. I don't remember much. Too long ago to remember well.

unfortunately you are absolutely right about everything IMO.

It is hard to hide the absence of original ideas. Especially when it's a RP server and everybody else has the same stuff. You can have slightly different maps, scripts, mods, etc., but it's the same thing. I was hoping that "GTAV:MP" would change things, but I don't see anything new. Everybody's still making the same server, except now it's popular to add some F2P pay-to-win lootbox trash or to directly sell your IG currency for real money. I had big hopes for a couple of Russian servers, but they also ended up selling their ass in-game currency for real-life shekels.

[Kowalski.]

But 2021 will see a lot of activity.

You sure?

[KJ_deactivated]

But 2021 will see a lot of activity.

You sure?

[Semirak]

I didnt neither seen lot of activity of you kowalski, so why are you poiting the finger?