The Corleone Mafia [Running the streets since 2006] [www.cmnation.net]

[Linc]

To be honest, if we do report someone, 9 out of the 10 times, nothing happends. I have send multiple reports to admins about rulebreakers which were just ignored.

[Richard.]

Daniel and all others, good luck solving this old mates.

[Violet]

Reported him several times. I've already been told by a close friend of yours that you know who Morgansson was all along, as you told him earlier today.

Close friend =/= Corleone member. I didn't tell anyone Morgansson as a close friend of mine as it takes more than a couple of hours to become close friends with a Corleone underboss nor did I know his identity. Thanks... Your attempt to try and force me to lift your group name from our enemies has failed.

[CM Daniel]

[20:35:04] CMD -> Ryan_Corleone (92) : /cb Morgansson!
[20:35:13] CMD -> Morgansson (96) : /cb Hey brio
[20:35:17] CMD -> Morgansson (96) : /cbusers
[20:35:21] CMD -> Morgansson (96) : /cb Leo COrleone
[20:35:44] CMD -> Ryan_Corleone (92) : /cb And, what's going on?
[20:35:50] CMD -> Ryan_Corleone (92) : /cb You left?
[20:35:52] CMD -> Morgansson (96) : /cb Ki9lling cops
[20:35:54] CMD -> Morgansson (96) : /cb lol
[20:35:55] CMD -> Morgansson (96) : /cb ye
[20:35:57] CMD -> Morgansson (96) : /cb kinda
[20:36:09] CMD -> Ryan_Corleone (92) : /cb Reason?
[20:36:14] CMD -> Morgansson (96) : /cb well, i got banendf for /hit abuse
[20:36:24] CMD -> Morgansson (96) : /cb f**king cunts
[20:36:26] CMD -> Ryan_Corleone (92) : /cb You're evading?
[20:36:32] CMD -> Morgansson (96) : /cb Yes.
[20:36:37] CMD -> Morgansson (96) : /cb
[20:36:43] CMD -> Morgansson (96) : /admins
[20:36:48] CMD -> Ryan_Corleone (92) : /cb Dude, do you ever plan to get unbanned?
[20:37:03] CMD -> Morgansson (96) : /cb i like it this way dude
[20:37:13] CMD -> Morgansson (96) : /cb
[20:37:13] CMD -> Ryan_Corleone (92) : /cb Well, take care then..
[20:37:19] CMD -> Ryan_Corleone (92) : /cb You suprize me..
[20:37:28] CMD -> Morgansson (96) : /gu
[20:37:44] CMD -> Morgansson (96) : /cb Well, sometime in the future I might want to get unbanned.
[20:37:55] CMD -> Morgansson (96) : /cb We'll see.
[20:38:03] CMD -> Ryan_Corleone (92) : /cb I see.
[20:38:11] CMD -> Morgansson (96) : /cb Yes, I know, Juanes.
[20:38:22] CMD -> Morgansson (96) : /cb hi admins
[20:38:33] CMD -> Morgansson (96) : /cb Who are you btw?
[20:38:36] CMD -> Morgansson (96) : /pm 5 No.
[20:38:44] CMD -> Kyle_CorleoneT (136) : /cb Who are YOU?
[20:38:56] CMD -> Morgansson (96) : /cb Leo Corleone.
[20:39:11] CMD -> Morgansson (96) : /cb Previous names, guys?
[20:39:19] CMD -> Ryan_Corleone (92) : /cb Ryan Stracci.
[20:39:32] CMD -> Kyle_CorleoneT (136) : /cb Lincoln_Cipriani
[20:40:03] CMD -> Morgansson (96) : /cb Juan.. hmm. Never heard of you the two years I've been playing.
[20:40:19] CMD -> Morgansson (96) : /l Nevermind him.
[20:40:23] CMD -> Morgansson (96) : /me smiles.
[20:40:30] CMD -> Morgansson (96) : /cb Lol, well then.
[20:40:43] CMD -> Morgansson (96) : /cb VIOLET!!

Give the entire chat between 20:35 and 20:43, including /p and all the other stuff. Then start looking at the time difference between each message. Then you be the judge whether every Corleone followed the conversation...

Nevermind, scrap that, bad idea. Let the rest of Argonath be the judge of that.

[Romeo]

Close friend =/= Corleone member. I didn't tell anyone Morgansson as a close friend of mine as it takes more than a couple of hours to become close friends with a Corleone underboss nor did I know his identity. Thanks... Your attempt to try and force me to lift your group name from our enemies has failed.

I have no intentions of attempting to fix relations. You have completely missed the point.

[Antonio.]

I hate to get into this between Romeo and Violet but, Romeo kinda became enemies with Corleone on his choice since you guys decided to try to take over Gvardia Corp HQ.

[Eugene]

To be honest, if we do report someone, 9 out of the 10 times, nothing happends. I have send multiple reports to admins about rulebreakers which were just ignored.

Its not what you know, its what you can prove.

[Violet]

I have no intentions of attempting to fix relations. You have completely missed the point.

There was no point to miss. You were trying to come up with what can only be described as bullshit that Morgansson was a good friend of mine according to me despite him logging on less than two hours prior to the tempbans. It's ludicrous for you to even imply that you think that you know the way I liase with people more than I do.

I hate to get into this between Romeo and Violet but, Romeo kinda became enemies with Corleone on his choice since you guys decided to try to take over Gvardia Corp HQ.

That would still be Romeo's fault as Corleone did nothing bellicose towards Ancelotti directly. Corleone only handed over the occupation of Gvardia HQ to the Ballas as you and other armed Gvardia members tried to stalk several Corleone members including myself around Los Santos and started asking us why we gave out threats to your members - when none of us did by your own admission as you said it was all role play. I played along and only regarded the occupation of Gvardia HQ as a bit of fun for everyone.

Its not what you know, its what you can prove.

It was impossible to prove ban evasion without the /alias command for most of us. I wasn't even online and was banned for it. Gimli said on MSN that this was the fault of the entire Argonath administration team. I told Morgansson to make an unban request as soon as I found out and I doubt the admins would have given the report much attention anyway if I had reported which is why I've only been really reporting hackers and hackers alone for at least the last six months. I can deal with all types of other rulebreakers myself so it gives times for the admins to help new players familiarise themselves with the rules which is ultimately what several admins have stated as their preference on the forums.

[Romeo]

There was no point to miss. You were trying to come up with what can only be described as bullshit that Morgansson was a good friend of mine according to me despite him logging on less than two hours prior to the tempbans. It's ludicrous for you to even imply that you think that you know the way I liase with people more than I do.

Wrong. I was saying that you told a close friend of yours that you know who Morgansson was. I did not mean that Morgansson was a close friend of yours.

That would still be Romeo's fault as Corleone did nothing bellicose towards Ancelotti directly. Corleone only handed over the occupation of Gvardia HQ to the Ballas as you and other armed Gvardia members tried to stalk several Corleone members including myself around Los Santos and started asking us why we gave out threats to your members - when none of us did by your own admission as you said it was all role play. I played along and only regarded the occupation of Gvardia HQ as a bit of fun for everyone.

Apart from the fact that Dean Corleone and another Corleone member opened fire on us at Gvardia Corp HQ today because we told them to leave.

It was impossible to prove ban evasion without the /alias command for most of us. I wasn't even online and was banned for it. Gimli said on MSN that this was the fault of the entire Argonath administration team. I told Morgansson to make an unban request as soon as I found out and I doubt the admins would have given the report much attention anyway if I had reported which is why I've only been really reporting hackers and hackers alone for at least the last six months. I can deal with all types of other rulebreakers myself so it gives times for the admins to help new players familiarise themselves with the rules which is ultimately what several admins have stated as their preference on the forums.

You know it's your duty to report him no matter what. That's no excuse.

[Antonio.]

That would still be Romeo's fault as Corleone did nothing bellicose towards Ancelotti directly. Corleone only handed over the occupation of Gvardia HQ to the Ballas as you and other armed Gvardia members tried to stalk several Corleone members including myself around Los Santos and started asking us why we gave out threats to your members - when none of us did by your own admission as you said it was all role play. I played along and only regarded the occupation of Gvardia HQ as a bit of fun for everyone.

Doesn't matter, who ever was there "taking" over Gvardia Corpoartion was an enemy. As for me stalking you, you are wrong. That day I logged in and two of our low ranked members, Strelok Gvardia and Dexi Gvardia told me that they had been threatened to be killed by Marlen, and by Corleone members. I managed to speak to Marlen and those two members did in fact stalk you guys, which was wrong of them to do. I approached you with some Gvardia members when you were coming out of Willow field ammunation and I said "Hey, I heard you been threatening my boys." After that you hopped onto your NRG with another CM member who was with you and you stated in main chat that you didn't see what I typed. I told you what I said through main chat. After that, I went to Verdant Bluffs, and I saw a shit load of people there, I didn't know what was going and decided not to check it out. I was afk for a while and when I came back, someone PM'd me that Corleone is taking over Corp HQ with the help of Frank Hawk and his people. I was the only Gvardia on at this moment and, I got spammed like shit with /sms with "London is burning". After a while some Gvardia members came on, and I told Romeo the situation so he decided to come and help us. That's the whole part of the San Fierro alliance we got going on. When I talked to you inside hq you told us "Cease fire is broken" so here we are now.

[SeanC]

Now, what the fuck happened?

[Violet]

Wrong. I was saying that you told a close friend of yours that you know who Morgansson was. I did not mean that Morgansson was a close friend of yours.

You brought that up only to try and make me reconsider your addition to our enemies. Just like you only showed that collage of screenshots in a futile attempt to try and give yourself the moral upperhand to ensure that Corleone would not add you to their enemies list as you shot at them...

Apart from the fact that Dean Corleone and another Corleone member opened fire on us at Gvardia Corp HQ today because we told them to leave.

Several Ancelotti members demonstrated a desire in joining the recent occupation of Gvardia HQ, I declined their offer as I know that helping one ally (I had been told by Daniel that Ancelotti and Corleone were allies a few weeks ago and by candidly observing your attitude towards Corleone personally I felt that you were more or less allies myself) against another. You should have taken the same approach and not tried to be a hero and intervene between Corleone-Gvardia. You would have been shot at any Corleone for taking the Gvardia side as you are helping an enemy - common sense prevails.

You know it's your duty to report him no matter what. That's no excuse.

Actually I've had experience of dealing with occasional rulebreaking myself within Corleone when I was an admin and consequently know the demeanor in which notorious ban evaders such as Junaid and Brave4Arnold have been forced to the unban request section whilst in the admin team. Frequently, I found that when more time is taken to explain the process of an unban request to the player, the chances of the player ban evading again nose-dive. After all, playing like a regular player without ban evading and the trepidation of constantly ban evading is far more desirable to the player involved. A little empathy goes a long way. I've also been vigilant across the unban request section and am weary the ethos being applied by Gandalf when he has stumbled across groups such as =RM= who at had been clan banned and banned as a group from Argonath for more than a year, be unbanned on the basis that they do not try to cause chaos on the server. Please don't try and preach me the rules when I didn't even know who was ban evading. As shown in the logs Gimli provided, I had no idea it was LeoC therefore had no intention of him knowing that he was not going to post an unban request.

[Devin]

Alright people, I have read ENOUGH of all this bickering and moaning.

This is CORLEONE'S Topic, not a topic for Ancelotti and Gvardia to come "discuss" in about anything.

Any further useless posts and provocation will be dealt with.
This topic is here for Corleone members to post in, not for others to come provoke and make problems within.

[Antonio.]

It's made for everyone to post in, not just Corleone xD

[Devin]

I clearly just asked you to leave our topic and stop posting shit, how would you like it if we came to your topic and posted shit about fuckall?