[Important] Gangwars/Conflicts & Validations

[chrille]

Group Name: East Block Bloods
Group Leader(s): Tyrone Wright ( will changename to OShea Jackson ) Co-Leader = Marquis Johnson
New Gang or Adding Validations?: New gang
Validations Listed: Glen Park Crips

[Rint_daw]

Before taking a such big decision, can I know the names of the rulebreakers ? Could we talk before it ? Let me the time to warn or talk to my members ?

Agree with alex. its better then Just fucking up mafia...

[Dave_Newton]

Well, We set up a false drug deal with [Gstar]Mr_Curtis to extract revenge on the Gstar group, as they kidnapped and killed one of our lower-ranked soldiers. We requested that Koltsov capture
Curtis as it may cause problems if we tried to do it, as they expected us to retaliate for there actions. All went well untill Curtis phoned some Stracci's who, with Curtis, Dmed the Koltsovs involved and began to hunt them/attempt to kill them.

Imo it should have been stracci that had the validations dropped, and Im not quite sure what happened.

Red lines says it all.

[Rint_daw]

So Koltsov's want their validations back!

[Xander]

Group Name: Koltsov
Group Leader(s):
New Gang or Adding Validations?: Removing
Validations Listed: ALL VALIDATIONS

Due to inability to stay within the rules and using validation as excuse to DM

Communication is the key. So kinda pathetic to do this to all of us, when not everyone is involved. Honestly Gandalf, talk to Alex so he can get the names and can resolve it in a more Professional Manner. Thanks.

[Traser]

So Koltsov's want their validations back!

If koltsov can manage their actions, they will receive their rights to add validations back.

[Dave_Newton]

Tell the rulebreakers names and i'll be able to talk with them and then warn/kick from the Family.

[Xander]

Tell the rulebreakers names and i'll be able to talk with them and then warn/kick from the Family.

Which is exactly my point. I love the Validation system personally. So when you have a Validation with another Family or gang, we can have a type of "war" with some realism. Now having wars like multiple times a day with 1 group is bs. Unless they are the "backup". I am one of the few who enjoy driving down the road, i see someone tailing me, i call in to the other members and try to ambush the tail. Alot of realism, i also enjoy RPing my actions so the other person gets a hint at whats going on. I find this very fun, when people claim its DM and all that, they should quit the moaning. If they cannot handle the Validation system 1) They seriously shouldnt be in a Mob or a gang. 2) Cancel Validations and try to not come in contact with that group. Very simple resolution, not rocket science.

[RastaKing]

You all should be thankfull to Gandalf that gang war is even here on Argonath.
There was a big discussion about it and at the end Gandalf allowed it BUT there are some rules
and if you misuse the gangwar or ignore the rules the punishment will be taken instantly and thats what hapened to you Koltsov's.

Even befor telling your men you can have gangwars with you're enemys you should have also explained them the rules, thats you're responsibility...

[Dave_Newton]

Now you're saying I've recruited new players only and I never explained anything about gang wars ... Once you can kill everyone with a validation, once you can't, once you need a RP reason. Rules keep changing everytime. All my men know what to or not to do, the fact is I can't be everywhere and see everything, everyone knows there will always be rulebreakers and they won't follow the rules and they has to be punished, taught. I'm very harsh with rulebreakers in my family do do not say such things please.

I think we got unfairly punished here, I'm not saying Gandalf is doing a bad job or criticks the Gang Wars rules or anything but everyone has to learn from their mistakes and we didn't even receive a warning about it, I don't even know the names of the rulebreakers and can't take actions against them.

P.S: We're going to drop the argues and waiting for an Admin decision now.

[Traser]

This topic is to ADD Validations Not to go offtopic.

[SavioR88]

Group Name:The Bonatti Crime Family
Group Leader(s): Victor,Shin,[AVt]Pete,Tommy
New Gang or Adding Validations?: New gang
Validations Listed:East Side Locos

[[B]TheDriver]

Group Name:The Bonatti Crime Family
Group Leader(s): Victor,Shin,[AVt]Pete,Tommy
New Gang or Adding Validations?: New gang
Validations Listed:East Side Locos

excuse to DM uhummm

[Romeo]

Group Name:The Ancelotti Crime Family
Group Leader(s): Romeo, Amy
New Gang or Adding Validations?: New gang
Validations Listed:East Side Locos
Reason:Disrespecting Family, Opening fire on members.

[MyleS]

Reason:Disrespecting Family, Opening fire on members.

Well this is one good surprise i would like to know whos "Loco" we talking about, as i cant remember myself i logged on argonath lately for longuer than 5 mins...

Please to validate this reason, i would like some proofs so i can take some actions of members who might have done this kind of move, else your reason will be considered as a Reason to DM as the one above.

And thanks Mango, i thought you could have contacted me about such things but anyway, well see how it goes after some proofs of what happened, i really hope its a Roleplay situation.