[Important] Gangwars/Conflicts & Validations

[Pancher]

Do you people even care about the Validation system you made? Are you interested in RP at all? Sounds more like you want to fight, fight, fight, fight aka Death Match.. gang vs gang aka group vs group..

I start to wonder... Maybe someone can answer my concerns?

I heard some groups are attacking other groups cos if they do not attack first, the other group will attack them first.. But i didn't understand where it all started so for me it sounds like an evil circle that never ends and the reason is the same, "attack first or get attacked"..

[Eugene]

Do you people even care about the Validation system you made? Are you interested in RP at all? Sounds more like you want to fight, fight, fight, fight aka Death Match.. gang vs gang aka group vs group..

I start to wonder... Maybe someone can answer my concerns?

I heard some groups are attacking other groups cos if they do not attack first, the other group will attack them first.. But i didn't understand where it all started so for me it sounds like an evil circle that never ends and the reason is the same, "attack first or get attacked"..

thats only some groups.
ex: gvardia - araatus (was)

[Romeo]

The validation system is just an excuse for big groups to DM the rest to feel powerfull.

It's being pathetically abused, and I for one want nothing to do with it.

[Aksel]

CAN'T MAFIAS JUST HAVE NORMAL ROLEPLAY TOGETHER? BURN DOWN BUSINESSES, WRECK THEIR CARS, KIDNAPPING RIVAL MEMBERS AND SO ON? WE DONT HAVE TO FUCKING KILL EACH OTHER EVERY FUCKING DAY DO WE?

[Julian]

BURN DOWN BUSINESSES, WRECK THEIR CARS

MOLOTOVS!

[RailWayGuy]

MOLOTOVS!

Grenade :<

[Romeo]

CAN'T MAFIAS JUST HAVE NORMAL ROLEPLAY TOGETHER? BURN DOWN BUSINESSES, WRECK THEIR CARS, KIDNAPPING RIVAL MEMBERS AND SO ON? WE DONT HAVE TO f**kING KILL EACH OTHER EVERY f**kING DAY DO WE?

I have really got to agree with that. That sounds alot more fun than what is happening atm.

[Julian]

Grenade :<

No. Molotovs, to do what Aksel said. :<

[9r2e5i3k]

CAN'T MAFIAS JUST HAVE NORMAL ROLEPLAY TOGETHER? BURN DOWN BUSINESSES, WRECK THEIR CARS, KIDNAPPING RIVAL MEMBERS AND SO ON? WE DONT HAVE TO f**kING KILL EACH OTHER EVERY f**kING DAY DO WE?

+11

In addition to that post, why do you guys always use most powerful guns to every situation? I understand a shoot-out or something, but wouldn't baseball bats or the simple shotgun be enough when robbing a taxi?

[Romeo]

+11

In addition to that post, why do you guys always use most powerful guns to every situation? I understand a shoot-out or something, but wouldn't baseball bats or the simple shotgun be enough when robbing a taxi?

I carry silenced 9mm, pump shotgun and maybe an AK47 for serious situations, and I usually get killed by someone with a combat. 

[Gandalf]

You have until January 1 to decide.

1. Validation system will be stopped, which means that if you kill ANY other gang member without RP, or if there is ANY kind of mass shootout, the group will be immediately warned and the second time closed.

2. You guys learn to follow the rules of the system you wanted in order to be able to hold a shootout.

Even in D-movies gangs are more creative as just killing, kidnapping and shooting each other...

[Pandalink]

If nobody has any objections or better ideas, I'm resetting validations for 2010, and we'll keep the system then.

[MyleS]

You have until January 1 to decide.

1. Validation system will be stopped, which means that if you kill ANY other gang member without RP, or if there is ANY kind of mass shootout, the group will be immediately warned and the second time closed.

2. You guys learn to follow the rules of the system you wanted in order to be able to hold a shootout.

Even in D-movies gangs are more creative as just killing, kidnapping and shooting each other...

Seems great, just remove the validation, it was nothing but a mess.

[Pandalink]

Seems great, just remove the validation, it was nothing but a mess.

Any mess created is considerably better than Gandalf's 1st listed possibility.
I will not go back to that again. We've come too far to be pushed back entirely, we can recover from recent events, slowly, but we need to kep any existing systems in place.

On another note, we need a bloody automatic system.
The ability to have criminal group conflicts should not rest on my shoulders.

[Eugene]

I do not support to closing the whole system, becuase then any group war will get you in trouble..

I think we need to reset the validation system and create more restrictions, like the group leader need to be in the gang war that is taking place, if leader is not present in the war, other group can take pics and post here, which will give group an official warning.