Wanna old Argonath RPG being back?

[Maxy]

Hell, April 07 was awesome as well.

[Wolfe]

the only thing wich is ruining Argo is the moaning, Why people moan ? here's the answer, Argo (Not blaming server owners) Has became a, Get money and be rich RPG..People only RP if it will give money to them..back in 2.1, I remember people doing party's, spending Fuckloads of money just for RP, and didn't even caring about, But no..Nowadays noone wishes to RP, unless it gives them money, And Admins, Get 40 reports each 30 mins, And also have to handle moaners, /p flamers, People pm'ing them for money or help, + friends trying to talk..We, lost the Hability or Rp'ing, I just hope there's a way to fix this..

[Myggen]

the only thing wich is ruining Argo is the moaning, Why people moan ? here's the answer, Argo (Not blaming server owners) Has became a, Get money and be rich RPG..People only RP if it will give money to them..back in 2.1, I remember people doing party's, spending f**kloads of money just for RP, and didn't even caring about, But no..Nowadays noone wishes to RP, unless it gives them money, And Admins, Get 40 reports each 30 mins, And also have to handle moaners, /p flamers, People pm'ing them for money or help, + friends trying to talk..We, lost the Hability or Rp'ing, I just hope there's a way to fix this..

Ye is pretty much one of the reason.
But, Admins dont only got 40 report, we are up in 100 reports in 30 min.

[Legolas]

The old Argonath was really great. I miss these times...

[Jserg]

Remove money from game.. About 20-40 people will leave, Real RPers will stay

[Syn]

I miss you Legolas

Stanly you still havent explained your comment?! lol

-Syn

[Kessu]

I guess I can say this as I have experience to be admin and a reqular...

Admin job is not easy (no, I did not leave because of it's hard). Once (dunno how) I was just Rping around and checked /admins (while i was admin), there were no-one else... Then I looked chat with PgUp.. There were over 10 reports I didn't even saw, because I was roleplaying... All was about carjacking, DMing, flaming trough PM.... Which means everything could be handled by themselves..
Every single time I made report (as reqular), I know admins really did something, as that player suddenly stopped breaking that rule and moved to next one :roll:
I am trying to resolve as many situations as possible for me by SPEAKING to rulebreaker in a POLITE way... Not just saying in /p "F#ck you #sshole, stop ruining our RP newB".. That does not help anything, because everybody don't check at main chat all the time...
Requlars can't understand that SPEAKING to rulebreaker in a POLITE way is much more effective than whining in /p like a baby...

I'm pretty sure some reqular will answer to this by "I am doing so, why blaming me?"
I am not blaming EVERY reqular, they know it by themselves who I am talking about...
And the "RP" of reqular who whiner to /p... Usually it is "RP" for gaining money... And the time reqular used to whine in /p, he could use to advise rulebreaker to stop it...
Think it about that way.....

[Oliver]

How is this situation even close to DM? Really, deathmatch involves no role-play whatsoever, so even if someone comes up to you and does

* Indica pulls a gun and presses it to XXX's head.

* Indica whispers: Say your prayers.

* Indica fires, pushing the lead bullet into XXX's temple.

That is not deathmatch, as there was role-play involved. You catch my drift?

Actually deathmatching is killing with a RP reason.

For example, when you saw a person killing your friend and you managed to get away, you could randomly open fire on him the next time you see him as you had a RP reason.

[Aragorn]

This is not a topic for discussion is Aragorn right or no... Aragorn posted to people the real "Old Argonath" as it was...
I stated on the several positions:

- Moaners who demand more rules and strict registration with removing freecops and the same time cry about "oh how cool was Argonath before" - have no idea that real Old Argonath was totally opposite of what they demand...

- Moaners who cry about "oh other servers are REAL RPG servers" either lie to us in purpose or lie to themselves cos hardly can be called a REAL LIFE RPG server - the server where payday and admins rights can be bought through premium/golden/platinum accounts... And as it based on selling the game stuff, all such recruitment like "that server is cooler then Argonath" are a simple commercial to gain clients for themselves... Cos nothing can be cooler then RPG and friendly community with the strong anti-cheat system and with the possibility of scripts which are higher then any other RPG sever - and this all is on Argonath... And for free...

Discussion about "nothing can be changed" is not raised in the topic by the owner of topic... And as the co-owner of Argonath RPG I can assure - can be changed... Yes, can be lost some players... But sometimes it just needs to get rid of bacterias...

About admins - as the Leader of A-team of Argonath RPG I can assure you that abusive admins are getting in troubles... As about admins work - you can see part of it in database... There you can just for interest to count how many bans were done for one day and see that reports on abuse are not that a lot... I can give you the number: for 1.5 month Argonath RPG got 22 reports on abuse from admins side...

With the amount of bans and work on forums it is nothing and cannot even be named as abusive admins team...

[Roadkill]

Hell, April 07 was awesome as well.

This is true.

[Custom]

Why not start another server running old scripts, also called Argonath?
What we got to loose ? I guess the old scripts still exist somewhere ?
We'll probaly loose players on 4.0, but in a good way. They will leave 4.0 happy, and we will always be able to find them in the "new" server, which is still Argonath
So there will only come something good from it, right ?
Everything there will be needed there is to have a couple of admins to look after rulebreakers - nothing more, as its not neccesarry to upgrade scripts and such things there Everyone will be happy, on both servers.

[Aragorn]

Why should we start from the beginning? Besides it - it will change nothing...

[James_Alterlis]

May - Nov. 2008 seem to be the best...

[Jonas_Jack]

What's mean start all from beggining ?
removing all new RS4 Features are returns to RS2 ?
Its gonna be a bit sad...

[The_Wolf]

You know what is REALLY bothering and the fault for all the "nostalgia" ?
Those "leet" roleplayers you all support and admire... What do the leet roleplayers do? All they do is moan and complain about the poor roleplay on Argonath, but ofcourse they do forget the most simple advise we give them:

IF YOU DON'T LIKE - LEAVE!!

If it was not them, it would've been as perfect as before.