Economic crisis in Argonath!

[Jerry]

If you are still playing Argonath RPG because of the money, then your reason of being here is WRONG.
I can guarantee you, staying moneygreedy, will get you worse in the future.
Better stop caring about the money, or your life on Argonath will get worse.

Read these words, they are 100% true.


Wanna know why?
Because 90% cares about their own money only, and never spend money on new people.
They get in debt and left the server, the way money is used on Argonath - is in a total NON RP WAY.
And is only a status, to make your self called "rich" and that seems to make you "cool"

Not for me, sorry.



Another thing:

You guys are NEVER happy.
When we add shit cars, you will react like: "OMG WTF DIS CARS ARE SHIT I DONT WANT , f**k DEVELOPERS THEY SUCH CHOSE CARS"
When we add good cars, you will react like: "OMG WTF YOU RETARDED DEVS f**kS UP THE ECONOMY, OMG MY CAR VALUE DECREASED WITH 400K, OMG I CANNOT SHOW OFF NOW"

And why show off? You need to earn respect, and that is not with your amount of money - trust me.


Wanna know how that works?
You stopping moaning about every single change developers make, to get more RP back (they actually CARE about the server, do you?)


On the way you are talking, you aren't really a lot higher then them.
As they care about having fun, and get friends.
You care about money, whats even LOWER - think about it mate.


Are you sure?
I think fun is defined as having a laugh in a good RP.
Not defined as you doing /bank and see your millions - atleast, it doesn't work like that for me.
You are talking about "going higher" , can you explain what is going higher in your words?
As on this way about only wanna be the richest guy, doesn't really make you "higher".

There is nothing "higher", as everyone is "equal"


To be honest, the taxi and medic fee should increase, so the money of the regulars get more "shared" with new people.
If you don't agree with that, learn to agree with this.

Why really caring about money, earned in a game - what you never can get IRL?!
And talking like this to Fabio, because he is defending a point of him, isn't that nice either.
Why he should send you his money, you dont care about it, he dont care about it - but he can use it on new people.
Because they do care about a nice START.

May I ask you, last time you spend money on a new guy? Or when you helped him?

Being a regular, and being here gives you responsiblity also for representing the name of Argonath RPG.
New people join to have a fun, and meet new friends.
You are here, to give our image about the server/community, and if you are moneygreedy and dont wanna help them.
Why should they stay? They can't do anything, and you can just relax, play and moan about the cars , while you still have like millions.


Argonath doesnt support IC / OOC.
But anyways, you will tell me, you only care about money "IC" ?
Why are you like going wild on the forums then? Why are you caring so much here?
It's only "IC" right?


I know Fabio well enough, to tell you that he more care about having fun on the server, meeting new people, helping people and nice roleplays.
Then that he plays this game to be the richest guy on the whole server.

Yes, we are all humans (atleast we should be) and we want something.
But I think more people should want fun, then money (as it's still a game, what should be "entertaining" for you)



Because some regulars, are money greedy.
And like to earn a lot of money, to "show off"
New people dont have any change to buy the car they want, they will never HAVE 1,7M.

I can tell you, even I can't bid on the average Infernus or something, as this is just TO HIGH.


We can't change people, as they will still be money greedy.
But we can change the way of things, so you dont have any reason to be moneygreedy.
And then you will regret it, and you NEED to care about RP, otherwise server will be REALLY boring.

Simply, because I directly see, the way you are talking, you see "new people" lower then you.
And thats your bigger fault, they are same as you - they do the same, they want the same.

And at the end, you are all here for 1 thing: roleplay/fun.

Get over it....


Yes it did work , value of the infernus dropped heavily.
Thank god.


Just to tell you, he gave away:

- $1,000,000.
- 1 buffalo

So, nice false accusation of something you don't know about.




Seriously , my last call - get over it, Argonath isn't about money - server names says:

Argonath RPG - (RolePlaying Game

not

Argonath $$$$$

But Nexxt you too make deals with big buyout prices ,not affordabel for Newbies, so you aren't much diffrent frome all of us.

[Joey_DeRossi]

First Sure a job with an income 2-4k an haur, well i can maybe get a mill if i play like this for some monts,but thats only the value of the bizz,the ovner wont just give it,he will ask for the buy out and thats just sad.

You must be misinformed about payments - if you're in a group, and apologize me for doing this kind of ordinary "publicity", like RI you get ~15-80k per week depending, of course, on your role.
Role-playing! Not by selling/buying cars, houses etc.

[Matthew_Green]

I hate to get a bit off-topic but, I sold my roadtrain today to buy a new imported vehicle, the Utility truck. But, All of them are STATE owned! Last night they weren't STATE owned. So What's the deal? I'm trying to help the ecomomy buy buying a utility truck and hiring workers to help with unemployment #s. Now I cant because the government bought all of the trucks!  

[Aksel]

You must be misinformed about payments - if you're in a group, and apologize me for doing this kind of ordinary "publicity", like RI you get ~15-80k per week depending, of course, on your role.
Role-playing! Not by selling/buying cars, houses etc.

I Remember my first paycheck from Rage Inc, that was awesome

[R.Rivens]

No! You kinda dont get my point! And I am not selfish! I want people to earn money to buy cars... I have made a lot of ideas in vehicle category. I wanted the trashmaster to be added for some garbage man work but it was a bad idea, I wanted Tahoma to be added since it haves 4 doors and cars like tahoma are very good for RP Gangs or something but it was a bad idea too... I wanted us to have something new. I love that we have Voodoo and Parker and other great cars for RP and fun. I also love that flatbed truck DFT something... But whats the point of adding super cars. All you do is make the owners to loose money. I listed cars before that we dont have at all. I would love to see them sometime. I also think that adding Andromada would be hell lot of the fun since you can park cars at the back.

Please get my point...

[Aksel]

When you can add low economic cars, you got to add the opposite, if you get what I mean...
Now new players can maybe get a piece of a Jester, they never had that chance before did they?

[Jerry]

You must be misinformed about payments - if you're in a group, and apologize me for doing this kind of ordinary "publicity", like RI you get ~15-80k per week depending, of course, on your role.
Role-playing! Not by selling/buying cars, houses etc.

Sorry,but with RolePlay you really can't make much money,atleast without RolePlay Robbing etc.

[EminemRulez]

What about all the "regulars" who had crappy cars and wanted some "nice sport cars"? They did just get a chance just like new players and members of this community to buy the new vehicles..

Why didn't anyone complain when the same thing happen with the property's? I mean... First we had lock down for ages and people had to deal with others to get the property they wanted, then "lockdown" got removed and we started to set new houses and bizzes, The Argonath Economic didn't crash.. Why should it do so when there are more vehicles?

I just see some pointless arguments without any fact or thoughts behind it..

And i still do not understand how you can lost millions of this new vehicles added, did someone steal cash from you? Cos if you still have the car you owned before and other property's then you haven't lost anything... Simple!!!

How do you gain money? Dealing with "illegal items", continue do car and property deals and do some "legal" jobs or anything that you can use with your brain.. I remember RI made some cash by offering car wash service and a garage service at Gas Station 9!! - Not scripted job, no items involved, If you ask me REALLY GOOD RP!!

So True....

STOP BEEING SELFISH about Your sports car... Why you wanmt then to increase value? To sell...then what you di with money? Buy another one?---Just keep the car and stop moaning about the 'crisis'
....

[Nexxt]

But Nexxt you too make deals with big buyout prices ,not affordabel for Newbies, so you aren't much diffrent frome all of us.

LOL!?

I haven't sold a house for ages (bought in may 2009)
I have sold my car (Banshee) to a REGULAR - [WS]Brainiac - for just 1M, because he really wanted it and I wanted another CAR.
So I needed money because people make absurt buyouts, and in the end I couldnt get the car, because the seller lifted it with 300K.

And this freaking accusations:

PLEASE ASK THE DEVELOPERS TO LOG CHECK - How much money I spend on my administrative job:

"Admin, I got killed by a freecop, can I have 1K" - I send them most of the time
"Admin, I dont have money to enter this bizz and I wanted change skin" - I pay them entry fee and the skin
"Admin, I see nice car, but I need 2000, can you please give me" - I will give them
"Admin, I am new here, but I spend money on weapons and I want buy new weapons" - I give them a little bit , as they are NEW
"Admin, can you give me some money, so I can do event, I wanna have some fun" - I will send them some.

Another thing:
When I am patrolling with a freecop (I do that a lot), I go buy some armour, and then also give them money for an armour
Explain how to but etc, and give them some weapons with "/giveweapon"

So, pure false accusations - I know how I can put my affort into this problem, and I dont care about my money.
But I wont give it away to regulars, I am helping new people with it.

[CBFasi]

Server has 999 vehicles

I added in that last update ...
10 Infernus (Total on server = 18)
3 Banshee (Total on server = 10)
4 Turismo (Total on server = 10)

(thats UNDER 20 sports cars !!)

What was added since 0.3 started
I may miss some but not the sports...

Bike slots returned..
giving us...
4 Pizzaboys
10 Faggios
10 Freeways

then...
5 more Fire Engines
3 Securicar
12 Caddies
4 Sparrows
6 Packers
8 more Freeways
20 Landstalkers
5 more Stretch
10 Voodoo
8 more Ambulance
2 more Leviathan
10 Washingtons
2 more Barracks
2 more Patrios
2 Cargobobs
2 Skimmers
10 VW style Campers
5 Utility vans
10 DFT 30 trucks
5 Hustler

Police Recieved final allowance, they will have to move vehicles around or swap but will get no more.
These are distributed around..
17 HPV1000
2 LSPD Police Cars
2 Enforcers (they will get no more !!)
9 SFPD Police Cars
15 LVPD Police Cars

SWAT
4 Ranchers(4 door) SWAT
1 Raindance SWAT
1 Maverick SWAT
1 SWAT Water

FBI
1 FBI Rancher

[David_Omid]

No! You kinda dont get my point! And I am not selfish! I want people to earn money to buy cars... I have made a lot of ideas in vehicle category. I wanted the trashmaster to be added for some garbage man work but it was a bad idea, I wanted Tahoma to be added since it haves 4 doors and cars like tahoma are very good for RP Gangs or something but it was a bad idea too... I wanted us to have something new. I love that we have Voodoo and Parker and other great cars for RP and fun. I also love that flatbed truck DFT something... But whats the point of adding super cars. All you do is make the owners to loose money. I listed cars before that we dont have at all. I would love to see them sometime. I also think that adding Andromada would be hell lot of the fun since you can park cars at the back.

Please get my point...

So your point is...you don't care about new vehicles being added as long as your profits don't go down?

[Nexxt]

Sorry,but with RolePlay you really can't make much money,atleast without RolePlay Robbing etc.

Why you need money if you can roleplay?
If you earn LESS with RP, that also means, you will PAY less with RP.

Maybe get that fact ALSO.

[Jerry]

When you can add low economic cars, you got to add the opposite, if you get what I mean...
Now new players can maybe get a piece of a Jester, they never had that chance before did they?

If they wanted a fancy sport car they should ''Get A Job'' As David_Omid said.
Post Merge: October 25, 2009, 10:31:27 pm

Why you need money if you can roleplay?
If you earn LESS with RP, that also means, you will PAY less with RP.

Maybe get that fact ALSO.

I like the opposit way David.

[Aksel]

If they wanted a fancy sport car they should ''Get A Job'' As David_Omid said.
Post Merge: October 25, 2009, 10:31:27 pmI like the opposit way David.

So should you, and the way you are working.
They cant start up a "Estate" Company, because cars are to expensive...
Got me there?


Stop being selfish about your money. I have seen alot by you now Bullet and Rage, it got to stop...
As Frank also said, we have to start investing and help new commers to become regulars!

[Nexxt]

I like the opposit way David.

My name is Nexxt.