To the ex-admins of SA:MP server

[Caltson]

Provoking other players beceause they have been qualified to something you haven't... It's weak. Helping admins is no problem at all.. But god... Don't provoke or say you were better than them..

I hope this warning did silence those who dares to state such things.

[Y2JFaN]

Yes it is annoying. Infact, it seems some admins who currently are STILL admins, are going easy on these  ex- admins.

Let me give an example, I will not name who for obvious reasons.

Okay, so there were like 4 admins on, and this FORMER admin (who shall be refered to as B), B is being annoying by this other player (new) and this new player will not stop, so this former admin goes in main chat and says 'Stop!' Then about 30 seconds later, ''F**K YOU!'' into the main chat.. I confront him and say ''Wow, that was real nice. Why did you say that?'' and B said ''He was annoying me!''... Sounds funny, doesn't it? Who here has ever been kicked, warned, even banned for such reason? I sure have. Infact, it gets better. B was never warned, kicked, or anything. After confronting an admin on this, ''Sorry i didnt see it.'' Although this admin, I can trust and is highly respected, I still think that is unfair considering he could have simply scrolled up to see it.

It gets EVEN better! About 5 weeks earlier, I got kicked for joking with [AV]Vince over a football game (Lets just skip the chat about it so it doesnt go off-topic) and i said ''haha you state sucks :P '' and i got kicked by B for saying it. I came back to say it was a joke, and he warned me for saying i was kidding! 
B, I hope you have enough balls to admit yourself here, because if not, I will find it really ridiculous.



I do think the former admins / mods are just being big babies about their loss of rank and are now going all negative about everything, and it makes me sick when they get away with things like I exampled above.

[David_Omid]

Okay, so there were like 4 admins on, and this FORMER admin (who shall be refered to as B), B is being annoying by this other player (new) and this new player will not stop, so this former admin goes in main chat and says 'Stop!' Then about 30 seconds later, ''F**K YOU!'' into the main chat.. I confront him and say ''Wow, that was real nice. Why did you say that?'' and B said ''He was annoying me!''... Sounds funny, doesn't it? Who here has ever been kicked, warned, even banned for such reason? I sure have. Infact, it gets better. B was never warned, kicked, or anything. After confronting an admin on this, ''Sorry i didnt see it.'' Although this admin, I can trust and is highly respected, I still think that is unfair considering he could have simply scrolled up to see it.

Players are never banned for saying things like that...do not exaggerate please

Also, administrators probably warned the guy over PM...we do that in most cases

[Andy]

Well... I haven't rulebreaked ever since I lost my Admin rights. Tell me when did I rulebreak? All I do is kill whoever shoots at me. I do have RP reason for each guy I have killed, if you want to know why I killed you, send me a forum PM.. maybe we can discuss it.

Aragorn, none of the Ex-Admins were trying to show or tell that they were better than other admins. In fact, We were happy with the admins that had to stay. I don't know if you heard about what happen yesterday or not. But I won't mention names. Maybe you guys might just know him top of your head. Why would only ONE admin and the only admin be on the server doing Cop work instead of Admin work with amount of players over 100? That actually happened yesterday. Someone (admin) was doing cop work instead of admin work, and I bet his chat was being flooded by 'Reports' It actually drove me crazy. Yet, I was kicked for spreading false information when it was true.. and he knows that was true.

[David_Omid]

Aragorn, none of the Ex-Admins were trying to show or tell that they were better than other admins. In fact, We were happy with the admins that had to stay.

That is not true for all ex-administrators...

A few are being horrible to the current administrators

[Andy]

That is not true for all ex-administrators...

A few are being horrible to the current administrators

Well, yea true. But atleast not all Ex-Admins were being horrible.

[Pancher]

ex-admins are in charge everyone

i wonder what this means...   :conf:

[Y2JFaN]

Players are never banned for saying things like that...do not exaggerate please

Also, administrators probably warned the guy over PM...we do that in most cases

Well, if continuous I meant. Not like just one time ban.

[David_Omid]

Well, if continuous I meant. Not like just one time ban.

Then I assume you understand that those ex-administrators that break server rules constantly will be treated the same way - with a ban

[Kojak]

What has come to light in the last 24 hours, after receiving reports and then reading the logs, is pretty sad but not at all surprising. I knew that some ex-admins would behave this way, but what does surprise me is the lenience those ex-admins are being shown by the admins they're provoking.

I have specifically asked all our admins to take a tough line on this kind of behaviour and to report all instances of it. The ex-admins were shown a period of grace in which to adjust to the restructure, that time is now over. You can continue to cry and moan about what a great admin you were and how it's all so unfair if you want to, but my tolerant side has now been worn thin by your constant complaints. SA:MP is a game, it is supposed to be fun and not a forum for your grievances. Complain all you like in PM, have your little ex-admin CB channel for you to get together and talk about how you're all so hard done by if you want to, just keep it between yourselves and make sure the rest of us don't have to hear your whining.

I don't care how you justify your behaviour; it makes no difference at all that the admins you are provoking are, in your eyes, not doing their job. If you're trash talking an admin in main chat you should expect repercussions. The admin team has our full support and they have the authority to do whatever it takes to remove disruptive players from the server.

To those ex-admins who have behaved decently since the restructure, this post is not aimed at you and your pleasant behaviour and continued support for Argonath is not going unnoticed.

Kojak

[Aragorn]

That are the best words to close topic, Kojak...

To ex-admins who started provokes and speculations:
Warning was given, it is up to you to stay a great guys or to go down and out...