Metagaming and Powergaming

[Lorenzo.]

Hey guys,

I have a question,
Can somone explane me what powergaming and metagaming is?
I'm not so good at english so please don't use some really strange words;)

Regards,

Freek

[Mikro]

Huh, what is metagaming and powergaming??  :trust:


Nah, joke. I know what it is, but Argonath doesn't recognise metagaming and powergaming. So, you don't even need to definition of it. 

[Lorenzo.]

I need to know it because i wanna join a Crime Family but they won't let me in if i don't know what is is:S

[Pandalink]

Then they aren't worth joining.

[(tr)Ollie]

Metagaming: Using OOC information, IC. So if you say someones name without meeting them and finding it out first.

Powergaming: Using powers that your character clearly does not have. So, /me uses his cock blaster to kill Bob. It's also if you control how someone reacts, /me hits Bob in the face, knocking him out. Should be, /me attempts to knock Bob out.

IC = In Character
OOC = Out of Character

[Mikro]

Metagaming is the usage of outgame and/or non roleplay related information to affect your roleplay descissions. Using main chat is such an "outgame" source. Or when you decide not to deal drugs with someone because you know that person is an undercover cop. Only because you see his name above his head.

Powergaming is pretending that your roleplay character can use all available items/strengths given by the game/enviroment. Like you are still walking with only 3 hp of health. Then you are using "strengths" given by the game to go above the "reallity" of the roleplay.

But.. This:

Then they aren't worth joining.

If you want a good roleplay, then you need to use atleast a bit of these terms (in my opinion, just to extend the roleplay), but not to much. We are Argonath, not a real life roleplay server.

[Frank_Hawk]

IC and OOC are employed by a range of players in Argonath SA:MP. Whilst they are not officially or traditionally supported, you are permitted to practise them as long as you agree not to enforce others to do the same.

[Pandalink]

I suppose basic concepts of powergaming are encompassed by the "no forced RP" rule, although it should be noticed that this rule doesn't seem to apply to cops.

[CaptainCrazy]

Another thing is that,

If you're playing by these roleplay terms, the roleplay you create involved with it will get more interesting.
Building on Marty's reply, instead of just taking control over other's actions you let them do it. Then they can give you a reason aswell why they didnt got knocked out for an example. But it's rarely used in Argonath since this is not a strict roleplay server.

[Chase]

IC and OOC are employed by a range of players in Argonath SA:MP. Whilst they are not officially or traditionally supported, you are permitted to practise them as long as you agree not to enforce others to do the same.

^^ What Frank said. Do it around your friends who wish to do it as well, but don't try to enforce others to do it. And most importantly, don't moan when someone does not follow by it. My suggestion for that would be to simply forget the OOC / IC rules while roleplaying with the people who don't prefer to use it. So respect their personal preference..

I honestly don't go by it much. Because I think those rules are getting old, especially since they originated on the first Godfather server. But that's just me. Different people prefer to stick with old things. I personally prefer to stick with up-to-date things.

[Que]

As Pandalink said, powergaming is kinda like the "no forced rp" rule. There's a lot of groups who have choosen to use these terms because of rules they're used to on other servers etc, but they're not supported by Argonath itself.

In my opinion, if you roleplay and use your brain, these terms are easy to understand, as you face them several times a day.
"Hey Marc!" (metagaming) when you don't know him for example is for me.. pretty wierd, and kinda lame.

[Leon.]

METAGAMING: Using outside knowledge, OOC chat (such as the public chat), or even actions shown in the chat to your advantage against the other player. For example, you're behind a wall.

*Bob thinks: wow this guy is gay
*Billy says: HEY IM NOT A FAG.

Billy has just performed metagaming.

POWERGAMING: Forcing an action over another player without their consent. Example:

*Billy kills Bob instantly in the brain, ripping his skull out
*Bob dodges, as Billy is right in front of my face and is fat, so he obviously moves slow and I'll see it coming

What Billy has done was powergaming. Bob has counter-acted the powergaming by providing REASONABLE information as to why the stabbing would fail.

[Pablo]

Then they aren't worth joining.

58th Conecta was best group so far, and it was worth joining.

[Aksel]

58th Conecta was best group so far, and it was worth joining.

ECPS :<

[Whiteman]

ECPS :<