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Reply #15 on: May 03, 2010, 08:02:52 pm
So whats the deal? there is nowhere written that DB as driver is disallowed, we can shoot so?

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Reply #16 on: May 03, 2010, 08:06:18 pm
Soooo.

Is Driveby as Driver ALLOWED !?

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Reply #17 on: May 03, 2010, 08:09:36 pm
No it is NOT.

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Reply #18 on: May 03, 2010, 08:11:14 pm
Quote from: Aragorn, 20th November 2009
DRIVE BY SHOOTING

Only passengers may perform drive by shootings, drivers of vehicles are forbidden from doing it.

Admins are aware of the current rules as they've been announced on the Administrator Section.
The rules on the website should have been updated a long time ago already, but as they're worked on while planning RS5, they're not.
If you are unaware of some rules of the server, please direct your questions to the administrator team.


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Reply #19 on: May 03, 2010, 08:19:39 pm
Soooo.

Is Driveby as Driver ALLOWED !?

Yes.

No it is NOT.

You sure ?



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Reply #20 on: May 03, 2010, 08:20:50 pm
As Passenger it IS allowed, as driver it is NOT.

I do not know about [Rstar]Agent using it on a bike.

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Reply #21 on: May 03, 2010, 08:30:54 pm
Soooo.

Is Driveby as Driver ALLOWED !?
The driveby rule falls under Glitching. There for it is not allowed, as the driver of a vehicle when using driveby gets an auto-aiming and can not be hurt due to a special action.
For cops on a motorcycle it is allowed (as Agent is doing in the picture) as otherwise they have no way of stopping a suspect by force. As a motorcycle it not easy to handle while shooting, the effect of the glitch is neutralized.

The general rules cover every situation, however it requires the player to use his brains. The more specific rules we will make. the more players will wave them to get advantage over others.

For this reason the rules will remain simple and general. If you wish to explore the limits, you will find them by admin punishment.

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Reply #22 on: May 03, 2010, 08:36:46 pm
The driveby rule falls under Glitching. There for it is not allowed, as the driver of a vehicle when using driveby gets an auto-aiming and can not be hurt due to a special action.
For cops on a motorcycle it is allowed (as Agent is doing in the picture) as otherwise they have no way of stopping a suspect by force. As a motorcycle it not easy to handle while shooting, the effect of the glitch is neutralized.

The general rules cover every situation, however it requires the player to use his brains. The more specific rules we will make. the more players will wave them to get advantage over others.

For this reason the rules will remain simple and general. If you wish to explore the limits, you will find them by admin punishment.

Ok, thank you for explai. :)
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Reply #23 on: May 03, 2010, 08:39:12 pm
For cops on a motorcycle it is allowed




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Reply #24 on: May 03, 2010, 08:57:15 pm
For cops on a motorcycle it is allowed (as Agent is doing in the picture) as otherwise they have no way of stopping a suspect by force. As a motorcycle it not easy to handle while shooting, the effect of the glitch is neutralized.
Shooting from a motorcycle to kill the person is much easier, or blow up car with suspects... there is the positive side...
let suspects drive bikes and shoot too then...

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Reply #25 on: May 03, 2010, 08:58:09 pm
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Reply #26 on: May 03, 2010, 09:14:39 pm
So how come this exemption of the no drive-by as driver rule has not been made for civilians and suspects? Surely if they can drive-by as passenger they should be allowed to shoot as driver if the glitch you mentioned has been cancelled out by the apparent fact that it is harder to shoot and drive the bike at the same time?

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Reply #27 on: May 03, 2010, 09:17:20 pm
So how come this exemption of the no drive-by as driver rule has not been made for civilians and suspects? Surely if they can drive-by as passenger they should be allowed to shoot as driver if the glitch you mentioned has been cancelled out by the apparent fact that it is harder to shoot and drive the bike at the same time?
Because susects are not supposed to run around shooting at everything.
However cops are supposed to do their best effort to stop wanted suspects and there is no other way a single cop on a bike can stop a suspect in a car.

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Reply #28 on: May 03, 2010, 09:30:44 pm
Because susects are not supposed to run around shooting at everything.
However cops are supposed to do their best effort to stop wanted suspects and there is no other way a single cop on a bike can stop a suspect in a car.

I said civilians and suspects. How is a civilian or suspect who is (perhaps in the middle of a hitman contract) chasing someone in a bike on their own, just like this hypothetical cop you mentioned in your post supposed to stop the person they are chasing. I believe it is possible for a cop to stop a suspect in a car without drive-bying them - this can be achieved in various ways, such as:

  • Trying to convince the suspect to stop the car via using the megaphones on the bikes.
  • Forcing the suspect in the car to blow up their car by good driving like forcing the driver to hit the walls a few times or making the suspect's car flip by making the suspect mess up a jump or drive poorly in a hilly area.
  • Forcing the suspect to drown the car by careful tail-gating.
  • Waiting for the driver to stop at a place such as an ammunation and attacking then, without the drive-bying.
  • Requesting a Hydra or a Hunter to take out the suspect's car on their cop radio.

I really don't think it's on for cops to be allowed to drive-by as driver in a bike, although your idea of the balancing act in determining what can be allowed and what can not is very thoughtful by weighing up if a glitch's advantages can be eliminated by other factors. I just don't think that it will work in practice. Yes, rules should be flexible as you mentioned but do you not think that the fact there's now a rule where cops can drive-by as drive-by on bikes however not on cars but can drive-by as passenger whilst on both bikes and in cars yet civilians and suspects not being allowed to drive-by as driver in either bikes or cars despite being able to drive-by as passengers in both bikes and cars is slightly contradictory?

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Reply #29 on: May 03, 2010, 09:44:18 pm
good to know i can drive by when im a bikercop  :banana:



 


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