Evaluation of regulars and veterans in order to make a sophisticated community.

[Daco]

Who is a relatively new group like Inferno 9 to judge the whole Argonath server, and many of it's regular players who were here before many of the members in Inferno 9?

Exactly.

[Omri]

Inferno9 is a group and is no different from other groups like Corleone, Gvardia or any other.

Well spoken, people sees i9 as they are the "elite" of Argonath.

[Daco]

Well spoken, people sees i9 as they are the "elite" of Argonath.

And that's what they call themselves.

[Brad.]

This is bullshit in my eyes, players like myself, Deejay, Curse, Leon_Gvardia, Cofiliano_Gvardia, Giac, and an hell of a lot more help new players every day, then i9 come in and take over that, and a lot of newcomers start refusing our help because Frank can afford to advertise every twenty seconds.  And now i9 are going to be "Watching us".  I myself do not think Frank should be letting i9 do these things, watching players is the admin's jobs.  No offence to Dwayne, but you've been here for like 2 months, and I like you and all, but it was a bad idea for you to post this.

I completely disagree with this, i9 has no right to be "examining the server".  Frank, if you want people to do this - "/a anyone wanna volunteer to do this job for me."

[Omri]

And that's what they call themselves.

tsk, whats next? All i9 become an admin?

[Hidduh]

It's an good idea but not only i9 has the 'authority' to do these things. This project should be open and accessable for all regulars and veterans, not only i9 themselves.

[Maxy]

It's an good idea but not only i9 has the 'authority' to do these things. This project should be open and accessable for all regulars and veterans, not only i9 themselves.

I9 has no authority, just like every other group in SAMP. Admins and Developers are the only ones who have any authority.

[Jubin]

Who is a relatively new group like Inferno 9 to judge the whole Argonath server, and many of it's regular players who were here before many of the members in Inferno 9?

You misunderstood. i9 will not judge the whole Argonath server. it will talk to regular and veteran members of Argonath ( like yourself) and then make a summary of what they found out. Like what do the Argonath veterans and regular players think, what can be done better for the sake of the community. And then they present it to the Administrators team. Then it is already admins team decision, will they act upon it, or not.

[Maxy]

You misunderstood. i9 will not judge the whole Argonath server. it will talk to regular and veteran members of Argonath ( like yourself) and then make a summary of what they found out. Like what do the Argonath veterans and regular players think, what can be done better for the sake of the community. And then they present it to the Administrators team. Then it is already admins team decision, will they act upon it, or not.

This is not something for Inferno 9 to do, this is something for the admin team to do. I didn't misunderstand, I said exactly what they are doing. They are judging us, talking to us, getting information from us, etc. It isn't their responsibility to do this, as most of them aren't even in a position to be judging others, especially those with more experience on the server than them. I'm not saying I don't agree with it, I'm only saying that I won't stand here as a 3 year veteran who has been a part of the Criminal world since then, and be judged by people who don't even remember RS2.

[iMunna]

Could be. However all players should note that this operation is not an official one, cooperation is entirely voluntary and while we will be interested in the outcome, there is no guarantee that the server owners will act on it.

Inferno9 is a group and is no different from other groups like Corleone, Gvardia or any other.

This idea was completely started by me. I requested that Inferno 9 represent me in this cause and they accepted. We also discussed that all groups are allowed to join in and accommodate us throughout the process. This is completely volunteer work, I expect to earn nothing in return.

We will not be "judging" the whole community.

This is bullshit in my eyes, players like myself, Deejay, Curse, Leon_Gvardia, Cofiliano_Gvardia, Giac, and an hell of a lot more help new players every day, then i9 come in and take over that, and a lot of newcomers start refusing our help because Frank can afford to advertise every twenty seconds.  And now i9 are going to be "Watching us".  I myself do not think Frank should be letting i9 do these things, watching players is the admin's jobs.  No offence to Dwayne, but you've been here for like 2 months, and I like you and all, but it was a bad idea for you to post this.

I completely disagree with this, i9 has no right to be "examining the server".  Frank, if you want people to do this - "/a anyone wanna volunteer to do this job for me."

You have the right to join us. You have the right to refuse to be examined.

tsk, whats next? All i9 become an admin?

That will not be happening.

[Brad.]

You have the right to join us. You have the right to refuse to be examined.

So you will be allowing others to do this too?

[Maxy]

So basically what you are doing, is saying that the developers share your views. Make your own views up, then hold all other players to the standards that you want them to have, and tell the developers to take action? I don't think so.

Who are you to even think about something like this?


You are not a governing council, and do not speak for all the players, why do you think you have the right to do this?

[iMunna]

So you will be allowing others to do this too?

Exactly.

So basically what you are doing, is saying that the developers share your views. Make your own views up, then hold all other players to the standards that you want them to have, and tell the developers to take action? I don't think so.

Who are you to even think about something like this?


You are not a governing council, and do not speak for all the players, why do you think you have the right to do this?

I will not be basing any opinions off of this examination. I will not be judging members based off of this examination. I will be finding issues within the community, within the individual, and within the leadership.

[Drastic]

This is some test to prove you're a veteran or?...

[Omri]

I'm only saying that I won't stand here as a 3 year veteran who has been a part of the Criminal world since then, and be judged by people who don't even remember RS2.

Well spoken Maxy.