I'd like to remind my fellow players

[Pandalink]

The main point that I'd like to reiterate is that the member does not represent the group. Even a leader may not represent a group if there is more than one. For example, if I had a nervous breakdown and unfortunately came ingame and begun deathmatching, that should reflect badly on me - not on Araatus.
If a single member, or a small group, does something wrong, the group leader can deal with it, and kicks will come if necessary. If the leaders refuse to kick, consider it them condoning what was done and act accordingly from there - but only if they refuse to deal with it. This is the same philosophy the group war system is based upon.

[rJCaiG]

Calling Gvardia DMers is like calling ARPD DMers, or even FBI or SWAT dmers.

You still fail to understand that POLICE ARE THERE TO ENFORCE THE LAWS, WHICH CAN BE PUBLICLY VIEWED HERE!!!!!

One of those rogue cops happens to be Giac.


Helicopters exploding are every day situations, and everyone laughs at it, even the crasher themselves, but this time was.... whoa.

lol this was months ago, did you report it to [email protected]?
why moan about it here now? 

[Gandalf]

You still fail to understand that POLICE ARE THERE TO ENFORCE THE LAWS, WHICH CAN BE PUBLICLY VIEWED HERE!!!!!

These laws are NOT official but only ARPD guidelines. Remember that.

[rJCaiG]

These laws are NOT official but only ARPD guidelines. Remember that.

ok, so what do police enforce? if they are not the laws that players must abide by, then what is?

[CBFasi]

These laws are NOT official but only ARPD guidelines. Remember that.

And this is why I try to keep out of it...... even though I am ARPD I know that guidelines are not laws...

[Gandalf]

ok, so what do police enforce? if they are not the laws that players must abide by, then what is?

These laws are the interpretation of ARPD and guide how trained ARPD officers are to judge and react to situations. As for validity they are no different than the family law of a criminal groups and if found contradictory to server rules the server rules will have preference.

[[NP]Monte Montague]

ok, so what do police enforce? if they are not the laws that players must abide by, then what is?

I've asked for bill of rights/ constitution to be made in courts, you are a judge, i've seen you hardly active in the forum, you could help create the law / documents.


For freecops, me, my groups, we don't class Self defence as a crime, arpd jail the people that hand them selves in and have no choice, usually because they are dm'd out of the blue.

[Gandalf]

I've asked for bill of rights/ constitution to be made in courts, you are a judge, i've seen you hardly active in the forum, you could help create the law / documents.


For freecops, me, my groups, we don't class Self defence as a crime, arpd jail the people that hand them selves in and have no choice, usually because they are dm'd out of the blue.

Killing ins self defense is a crime.

[rJCaiG]

I've asked for bill of rights/ constitution to be made in courts, you are a judge, i've seen you hardly active in the forum, you could help create the law / documents.


For freecops, me, my groups, we don't class Self defence as a crime, arpd jail the people that hand them selves in and have no choice, usually because they are dm'd out of the blue.

Before you decide to call me inactive in courts, go check every single topic and you'll see that I am personally handling at least 50% of the cases in the courts at the moment. Do not go saying bullshit about me when you do not know the shit you are bulling about.

And for the record, a constitution is in it's final stages of being created, awaiting final approval by President Gandalf.

[[NP]Monte Montague]

Before you decide to call me inactive in courts, go check every single topic and you'll see that I am personally handling at least 50% of the cases in the courts at the moment. Do not go saying bullshit about me when you do not know the shit you are bulling about.

And for the record, a constitution is in it's final stages of being created, awaiting final approval by President Gandalf.

Ok, I have not been so active on courts myself, simply because It's the same old court case these days, but.

I believe the bill of rights / constitution / laws should be made with the public, with referendums and  etc.

CBFasi:
These laws are NOT official but only ARPD guidelines. Remember that.

Me: I found out something new today :P ... , people, and admins usually act as if ARPD laws  / guidelines are the official laws. It's a case of "What they don't know can't hurt them" from the ARPD.

[Gandalf]

Ok, I have not been so active on courts myself, simply because It's the same old court case these days, but.

I believe the bill of rights / constitution / laws should be made with the public, with referendums and  etc.Me: I found out something new today :P ... , people, and admins usually act as if ARPD laws  / guidelines are the official laws. It's a case of "What they don't know can't hurt them" from the ARPD.

In most cases these laws are restrictive for ARPD, however some clauses can easily lead to abuse by citizens, which is why they are not officially supported.

As for the constitution, it is being examined against the server rules and against possible misuse. This should not be done by a referendum, as players would like to add or remove things to their personal advantage.

[Pandalink]

This should not be done by a referendum, as players would like to add or remove things to their personal advantage.

Isn't that the point of referendum? :razz:

[Gandalf]

Isn't that the point of referendum? :razz:

Yes it is, that is why we are a dictatorship.  :razz:

[Pandalink]

Yes it is, that is why we are a dictatorship.  :razz:

kk ^.^

[Ben.]

These laws are NOT official but only ARPD guidelines. Remember that.

Huh? For once, Gandalf, I'm not sure if I agree...
I have been kicked by admins for heli-kill before, or Mass DM, as many admins put down as reason, so whoever crashed the helicopter and killed Giac, in theory, heli-killed (or  carkilled, whatever) so why would Giac be wrong?

Last time I checked, I'm sure that 'no Carkilling' was a rule, so i'm now confused  :S