Hmph.

[Cane]

Before I begin, I would like to let everyone know that this topic is not created to 'moan' or 'complain' about my experience in the current community of Argonath RPG.


First thing's first, since when did players fail to see the difference between a question and a complaint? Earlier today, I asked a question regarding a certain situation in public chat, and instantly another player responds with "Do not moan in /p!!" and "Why are you still moaning?!?!?!". A question is a question, nothing more. Calm down.


Secondly, why do players think they have the 'power'? I understand that you don't want anyone to 'break a rule', but do you honestly have to scream out orders and demands to other players? You think that you are helping the situation, but you're really not. In fact, you are just adding fuel to the fire. Let the administration team handle the situation, and just keep your mouth shut.


The players that are doing the above are also contradicting themselves. Yes, I am calling them hypocrites. Why? Because when you tell other players to 'stop moaning', you are complaining about the fact that the other players are complaining. You say that they are "spamming and flooding up the public chat", but it is you who are committing such act by telling them to be quiet.


Again, I emphasize the fact that this topic was NOT created to moan or complain about my experience in the current community of Argonath RPG. It is created because a large amount of players are performing the acts stated above, and are progressively getting worse by the day.

[Void]

Before I begin, I would like to let everyone know that this topic is not created to 'moan' or 'complain' about my experience in the current community of Argonath RPG.


First thing's first, since when did players fail to see the difference between a question and a complaint? Earlier today, I asked a question regarding a certain situation in public chat, and instantly another player responds with "Do not moan in /p!!" and "Why are you still moaning?!?!?!". A question is a question, nothing more. Calm down.


Secondly, why do players think they have the 'power'? I understand that you don't want anyone to 'break a rule', but do you honestly have to scream out orders and demands to other players? You think that you are helping the situation, but you're really not. In fact, you are just adding fuel to the fire. Let the administration team handle the situation, and just keep your mouth shut.


The players that are doing the above are also contradicting themselves. Yes, I am calling them hypocrites. Why? Because when you tell other players to 'stop moaning', you are complaining about the fact that the other players are complaining. You say that we are "spamming and flooding up the public chat", but it is you who are committing such act by telling them to be quiet.


Again, I emphasize the fact that this topic was NOT created to moan or complain about my experience in the current community of Argonath RPG. It is created because a large amount of players are performing the acts stated above, and are progressively getting worse by the day.

OK, i will try to keep this as simple as possible, here, answering your questions in order:

1) Lack of confidence, low self esteem, feeling the loss of grip/control.
2)Power - abstract when we talk about internet. Refer to number one to know your answer.
3) Hypocritical (mini/wannabe) moderators  - there, you've answered yourself

Every now and then, if a player really moans(as that I mean using capitals and spamming report, constantly getting warned for patience) I do warn him, but its slightly getting on my nerves to get warned by other players who do the same action daily, one or more times.

[Syn]

Before I begin, I would like to let everyone know that this topic is not created to 'moan' or 'complain' about my experience in the current community of Argonath RPG.


First thing's first, since when did players fail to see the difference between a question and a complaint? Earlier today, I asked a question regarding a certain situation in public chat, and instantly another player responds with "Do not moan in /p!!" and "Why are you still moaning?!?!?!". A question is a question, nothing more. Calm down.


Secondly, why do players think they have the 'power'? I understand that you don't want anyone to 'break a rule', but do you honestly have to scream out orders and demands to other players? You think that you are helping the situation, but you're really not. In fact, you are just adding fuel to the fire. Let the administration team handle the situation, and just keep your mouth shut.


The players that are doing the above are also contradicting themselves. Yes, I am calling them hypocrites. Why? Because when you tell other players to 'stop moaning', you are complaining about the fact that the other players are complaining. You say that we are "spamming and flooding up the public chat", but it is you who are committing such act by telling them to be quiet.


Again, I emphasize the fact that this topic was NOT created to moan or complain about my experience in the current community of Argonath RPG. It is created because a large amount of players are performing the acts stated above, and are progressively getting worse by the day.

Your Opinions are now Diamonds.

[Xander]

Can we stop with this 'Opinion topics on respect/moan'. They are getting old fast and always result in the same thing. More moaning and fighting among each other. I understand what you are saying Cane and i respect it, but im not interested in watching people fight and pull apart when we should come together.

[Knoccout]

Really... Okay listen man i know exactly what you mean, and this is not only you but if you have a questions ask in /ask or ask an admin, or if players start saying pointless stuff just ignore it, Simple as that.

Thank you.

[Altair_Carter]

Cane,

Can we stop with this 'Opinion topics on respect/moan'. They are getting old fast and always result in the same thing. More moaning and fighting among each other. I understand what you are saying Cane and i respect it, but im not interested in watching people fight and pull apart when we should come together.

Here, is another example of your opinion.

The main problem in the Argonath is, that, when someone started using the term "Moaning" a year ago, some owners started to talk using the term too, and it came onto the main base of the Argonath players. Since then, everything which is a question, concerned about anything important and which needs to have a clarification, is still a moaning for others.

I think most people won't believe me or start to argue, so I'm going straightly to Wiktionary

to moan (third-person singular simple present moans, present participle moaning, simple past and past participle moaned)

   1. to make a moan or similar sound
   2. to complain

Asking question = / = complain
Discussion = / = complain
Argument = / = complain

[Cane]

Asking question = / = complain
Discussion = / = complain
Argument = / = complain

This.

[Void]

Cane,Here, is another example of your opinion.

The main problem in the Argonath is, that, when someone started using the term "Moaning" a year ago, some owners started to talk using the term too, and it came onto the main base of the Argonath players. Since then, everything which is a question, concerned about anything important and which needs to have a clarification, is still a moaning for others.

I think most people won't believe me or start to argue, so I'm going straightly to Wiktionary

to moan (third-person singular simple present moans, present participle moaning, simple past and past participle moaned)

   1. to make a moan or similar sound
   2. to complain

Asking question = / = complain
Discussion = / = complain
Argument = / = complain

I love you man. Sticky this post!

[Aksel]

you accidently the whole internet.

[Kenny.]

Secondly, why do players think they have the 'power'? I understand that you don't want anyone to 'break a rule', but do you honestly have to scream out orders and demands to other players? You think that you are helping the situation, but you're really not. In fact, you are just adding fuel to the fire. Let the administration team handle the situation, and just keep your mouth shut.

I come across alot of these and when they yell at me i simply just say "OK adminstrator (name)" that makes them shut up, because i do hate it when sometimes something that i meant for local chat which is a bit of swearing comes by mistake on main chat, i have like 6 adminstrator wannabe's telling me "Kenny DO NOT FLAME..OMG HE FLAME"

What you said about moaning is true, not that only i am disapointed with players, but i ask a question some players take their time to say "OMMG HE MOANING" and if/when 3 or 4 players say this, i get a nice warning from an admin telling me not to moan.

People dont know to mind their own business, but i cant blame them when they just come in-game speciafically to sit down in a car and talk in main chat all day, throw themself into every conversation..Attention seekerz...

[lmpurity]

im tired of these topics.

[Void]

im tired of these topics.

Don't watch them.

[Romeo]

I agree with everything said here. If you don't like this topic then don't post and go away.

[lauren_ancelotti]

I agree, like everytime I am alone somewhere /gu'd and there are no cops around, I will ask in public chat if anyone will come cuff me, then I get about 20 responses that I should stop moaning.

i think its just people who get off on bossing around others (and because of self esteem issues/etc that were prev. stated). I've heard the term 'wannabe mod' before, and I think that applies to quite a few argo players.. Unless an admins steps in and says something in /p, then things resume the way they are. Nothing really can be done on it.

[Void]

Give them administrator rights. Within a week, they'll go crazy of responsibility and eventually quit or suicide.
That job is for mature, responsible people, not for everyone.Many players in fact only want respect and power/wealth.
Ironically they already have respect on the server.