No force rp.

[Jamal]

Why annoy admins? Run to police... Or away... Usually dmers do not have a habit to stalk anyone...

But no, you will not do it... Cos you will get into fight, will kill the person (100% crime), then will start annoy admins to unsuspect you because of some OMFG DMER... And if the dmer would kill you in that fight, you will immediately report or scream OMFG DMER!... Cos got owned by some noob-boob...

/report admins player18 is a dmer and I killed him...  ??? or
/report admins player18 is a dmer, killed me in a dual... ??? or
/report admins I killed the guy, unsuspect me... ???

I would not even move a finger to react, trust me... But I will rather spectate the reporter... who was obviously fighting the player and then reporting him... Cos it can come out the situation of being owned in a fight and pissed off in reports...

Players should know one thing - once fought a dmer back - no admin action to that accident...

So - We CAN Attack the DMer but we can't request unsuspect? in other words we have 1. defend self  but become suspect or 2. die ?

[[NP]Monte Montague]

So - We CAN Attack the DMer but we can't request unsuspect? in other words we have 1. defend self  but become suspect or 2. die ?

You could always surrender and cry (Rp way in which you do /me crys and weeps, not moan) and tell the cops you had no choice, and beg for there forgiveness.

[[NP]Monte Montague]

We roleplayed many things...

We roleplayed the hobos who were provoking the citizens against Argotican and Pope Elrond (R* Kojak)... Pope that time called SWAT and we were invited to the church where we were standing and screaming slogans while public was laughing at us... Pope told us that he will find us everywhere, lol... Zis waz a very complicated situation...
The same time there was a journalist, who was taking pictures of the conversation involving Pope, two hobos and SWAT...
The weeks later the priest Anto (R* Anto) went to Courts with issue against both hobos and there was a Court Case... I do not remember who were judges, but that was the funniest Court ever... Apart from the named priest Dare_Devil (hobo Gandlf pointed it very loud so we were laughing) plus some more facts against Argotican...
So the Court case was equalizing us, nobody won, but shared the amount of compensations...

We were roleplaying the blackmail of Prime Minister, when Daniel_Corleone made some photos of me and Araatus, claiming that Prime Minister is corrupt and has connections to Triad (or it was something else, I already do not remember which accusations were and when, lol)...
The case was taken by the Police HQ, which prepared a special operation involving cops and SWAT together... That time the Chief of Police was Kaltsu (R* Kaltsu)...
Police told me to contact the Corleone boss and make an appointment in some quit place, like Bayside...
When I arrived to the place there were tons of cops and SWAT... Daniel called me and told that he is coming... We got a problem where to hide all cops, ahaha... So to hide them from radar, all cops ran into the nearest shop 24/7...  I can imagine the face of the owner of shop when there are tens of cops and special forces "excuse us sir, can we watch outside from here?"
Kaltsu himself was a barmen (LC bar) and was serving us on a high quality...
After that I was asked to move to the back door "to take some fresh air"... When I went out, there were all those cops and SWAT getting into bar... So Daniel was caught with photos...

I remember me, Gandalf and Legolas (R* Agent) were washing cars and Marina beach in bikini's and on rollers... After second car was washed the third one was with the maniac... We had to use our sprays to run from him...

That was Argonath...
And not this crap "remove rewards from cops", "OOC/IC", "if we will not have freecops we will roleplay nice", etc...

Why not make it how it was back then? I've nothing to compare this current Argonath to, I don't mind, it's still good enough for me.

[Void]

Why not make it how it was back then? I've nothing to compare this current Argonath to, I don't mind, it's still good enough for me.

You need players for that.
1000 people, 1000 personalities

[Leon.]

You could always surrender and cry (Rp way in which you do /me crys and weeps, not moan) and tell the cops you had no choice, and beg for there forgiveness.

Forgiveness? Fuck forgiveness, at the very least they should be doing what they're supposed to do BY LAW.

3.

[9r2e5i3k]

So - We CAN Attack the DMer but we can't request unsuspect? in other words we have 1. defend self  but become suspect or 2. die ?

You forgot about running away.

[Vince]

So - We CAN Attack the DMer but we can't request unsuspect? in other words we have 1. defend self  but become suspect or 2. die ?

player trying to take advantage of something


@ OP:

SEE -> SIGNATURE!

: D

[Jamal]

player trying to take advantage of something


@ OP:

SEE -> SIGNATURE!

: D

do not get it lol

You forgot about running away.

Assuming I have a vehicle to escape in or assuming the Dmer will not chase me down.

[Aragorn]

So - We CAN Attack the DMer but we can't request unsuspect? in other words we have 1. defend self  but become suspect or 2. die ?

And you want to kill people and be innocent?
Yes you will need the investigation of police... And trust me, people with brains make from it a lot of fun between each other...
You have more then one:

1. Take a gun into your hands and be ready to face the Law Enforcement for the murder
2. Run away and find a help from the nearest police officer (I myself tried it many times as I never have weapons and it worked fine)
3. To fight back and die, if he is better then you...

From this three positions you should report admins only in case two, if you want that much...
In other two cases you can point to admins to check IDplayer on deathmatch...
If in all three cases you will start "OMFG DMER!!! ADMINS DO SMTH! THIS SERVER SUCKS!" or whatever in that style, get ready to be muted/kicked/tempbanned... If you do it constantly, be ready to be banned till you realize - either you treat the community with its admins and noobers decent or you will find another community with the zomg veterans of roleplay and be happy there...

[Aragorn]

Why not make it how it was back then? I've nothing to compare this current Argonath to, I don't mind, it's still good enough for me.

That depends on players... SA:MP community is full of some real life crap... They made Police very serious, with that came all accusations... They are greedy, with that some parts of roleplay are impossible...

Lets make example...
In my times of active playing and being the police chief (and it was far ago on other server) the police officers could earn 5000$ from the highest level criminal killing or 10000$ from jailing him... People were going on police work (and that was the ONE job in whole city) to gain some money... And NOBODY accused anybody in money hungry or whatever...

Then there was a try of players attack the Police Department with accusations in a corruption...
"Want corruption?" - I thought - "I will give you corruption" And made out the announcement from PD that all mexicans in Vice City should pass the registration... If they will not do, the PD considers it as illegal immigrants and has rights to suspect and jail... The registration cost 10 000$...

Ask yourself what would SA:MP moaners do if I would give such announcement here?

The first day PD has got a line with mexican skinned players... We earned money for PD... Later we went to some guy with electronic shop and ordered some stuff there also to the clothes shop and ordered there new uniforms... Imaginery, of cos...

Back to the mexicans... The next day they started demand their human rights (in different forms of forum posts), but I already united cops and said - lets rule it, as I got money from registrations we shared it within police department dudes... The riot started, was a lot of fight, chases, arrests, demonstrations, imaginery painting the VCPD walls with Mexican graffiti... Even those who played the black gangs, started spawning as mexicans...

I decided to involve another group - something like Army... National Guard... And asked for support and cooperation... So there was the whole server involved...
Mexicans were making demonstrations, accusing police in corruption, they had even leaders, there were riots in cells inside PD... Many things...

Still they were registering... Dunno why, but they took it that registered as PD as mexican it will make them noticed by police...  So guys payed money, we shared it on roleplay and salaries and support of noobs...

SA:MP server cannot hold such roleplay...
First of all they will start cry about 10.000$ and that Police is taking too much advantages...
Secondly they will call it racism and start topics on forums against racial cops...
Thirdly they will accuse cops in money hungry and suspect without reason...
And I am sure there would be more and more screaming and crying...

I am not talking about all sa:mp community as there are those who could run such event with no problems... But the problem is that there are several moaners who will ruin the whole idea and gossip/shit it on MSN's and on forums...

[Jamal]

LEts remember cops are just players like criminals on this server too, they moan too. Why is it all moaning situations are like 'criminal moan about cop' - When half the time the cops moan about it anyway.

[[NP]Monte Montague]

That depends on players... SA:MP community is full of some real life crap... They made Police very serious, with that came all accusations... They are greedy, with that some parts of roleplay are impossible...

Lets make example...
In my times of active playing and being the police chief (and it was far ago on other server) the police officers could earn 5000$ from the highest level criminal killing or 10000$ from jailing him... People were going on police work (and that was the ONE job in whole city) to gain some money... And NOBODY accused anybody in money hungry or whatever...

Then there was a try of players attack the Police Department with accusations in a corruption...
"Want corruption?" - I thought - "I will give you corruption" And made out the announcement from PD that all mexicans in Vice City should pass the registration... If they will not do, the PD considers it as illegal immigrants and has rights to suspect and jail... The registration cost 10 000$...

Ask yourself what would SA:MP moaners do if I would give such announcement here?

The first day PD has got a line with mexican skinned players... We earned money for PD... Later we went to some guy with electronic shop and ordered some stuff there also to the clothes shop and ordered there new uniforms... Imaginery, of cos...

Back to the mexicans... The next day they started demand their human rights (in different forms of forum posts), but I already united cops and said - lets rule it, as I got money from registrations we shared it within police department dudes... The riot started, was a lot of fight, chases, arrests, demonstrations, imaginery painting the VCPD walls with Mexican graffiti... Even those who played the black gangs, started spawning as mexicans...

I decided to involve another group - something like Army... National Guard... And asked for support and cooperation... So there was the whole server involved...
Mexicans were making demonstrations, accusing police in corruption, they had even leaders, there were riots in cells inside PD... Many things...

Still they were registering... Dunno why, but they took it that registered as PD as mexican it will make them noticed by police...  So guys payed money, we shared it on roleplay and salaries and support of noobs...

SA:MP server cannot hold such roleplay...
First of all they will start cry about 10.000$ and that Police is taking too much advantages...
Secondly they will call it racism and start topics on forums against racial cops...
Thirdly they will accuse cops in money hungry and suspect without reason...
And I am sure there would be more and more screaming and crying...

I am not talking about all sa:mp community as there are those who could run such event with no problems... But the problem is that there are several moaners who will ruin the whole idea and gossip/shit it on MSN's and on forums...

Why focus on PD always then?

[Leon.]

Anybody seen that Southside Militia moan topic made by a cop?

[JDC]

People like you, Jamal, are one of the many problems in Argonath SA:MP.

[Leon.]

Well, allow Jamal to retort.