Is the Argonath Vision blurred? Do we need glasses?

[[NP]Monte Montague]

2.   Argonath gives equal rights to new, experienced and admin players. We do not discriminate between players, and having admin rights or being a long time player does not give any of our players rights to act as better, higher or having more status as another.

Why is this not implemented in game?

For example:
ARPD Officers not being given a SMG, which SAPD people get, even if most cool SAPD officers give there SMG anyway, it's still shows that ARPD Officers are being treated as second tier (especially with the names etc...).

It's always annoyed me, not just the above example but other elements.

I've also seen many other contradictions of the Argonath vision, this should really be in Speakerbox.


Notes:
This is not a moan topic, go elsewhere.
Argonath Vision : http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=38482.0

[Julio.]

Yup, agreed, then people argue AGAINST ideas using the idea of the Argonath Vision and distorting it.


Compared to Terrorism for example, they 'say' their God make them blow things up, when realistically they are distorting the words in their Holy Book.

[Bilbo]

It is implented.

Don't blame the game, blame the player. (in this case, ARPD)

[[NP]Monte Montague]

Yup, agreed, then people argue AGAINST ideas using the idea of the Argonath Vision and distorting it.


Compared to Terrorism for example, they 'say' their God make them blow things up, when realistically they are distorting the words in their Holy Book.

And Argonath Vision is Argonath holy book.

I'm sorry but am I reading Argonath Vision wrong or am I right?

It is implemented.

Don't blame the game, blame the player. (in this case, ARPD)

In regards to this, I call upon the relevant figures CBF/Aragorn/Gandalf to accept the blame and fix please.

[EminemRulez]

There'll be always differences between players...
Some will be always treated "better" or "worst" than others - as much as you deny it, it's a fact.

[Gandalf]

Difference was not my choice, nor my wish.

Scripters probably implemented this under pressure of players who feel that SMG is not to be handled by a non-trained officers. Of course listening to players is what we should do...

[Jamal]

Would you rather everyone gets saame amount of weapons such as high powered SMG and death and DM and such trouble by new players with these extreme weapons, or like it is now?


Besides. It takes someone a week or two to get a higher status than ARPD Officer considering everyone can get accepted easy now. Curse if you really want the ARPD officers [including yourself] to receive these weapons tell them to apply and wait for a reply.

[Gandalf]

Would you rather everyone gets saame amount of weapons such as high powered SMG and death and DM and such trouble by new players with these extreme weapons, or like it is now?


Besides. It takes someone a week or two to get a higher status than ARPD Officer considering everyone can get accepted easy now. Curse if you really want the ARPD officers [including yourself] to receive these weapons tell them to apply and wait for a reply.

Actually I would not mind. It would be much easier and faster for admins to catch the DMers, as when they have less powerful weapons it is harder to spot them.

Also those who like to play tough guys might be more willing to cooperate with ARPD if they knew for sure they have a heavy weapon.

[[NP]Monte Montague]

Actually I would not mind. It would be much easier and faster for admins to catch the DMers, as when they have less powerful weapons it is harder to spot them.

Also those who like to play tough guys might be more willing to cooperate with ARPD if they knew for sure they have a heavy weapon.

Agreed, especially with he Admin part, I see lots of dmers who get left alone because the admin (don't blame them) do not see the actual offense.

So can we have it now and same color name for all please.

Although I might respect what SAPD does and its officers, I do not care whether or not people where applying (I believe they changed the color names because people where not applying for SAPD)

Please and thank-you, you have to listen to me you know.

[Gandalf]

Agreed, especially with he Admin part, I see lots of dmers who get left alone because the admin (don't blame them) do not see the actual offense.

So can we have it now and same color name for all please.

Although I might respect what SAPD does and its officers, I do not care whether or not people where applying (I believe they changed the color names because people where not applying for SAPD)

Please and thank-you, you have to listen to me you know.

Ask the Chief of ARPD. He determines the direction.

[[SE]Dr_Pepper27]

Gandy, you have no choice to give freecops SMG to meet the vision but you're an owner? 

[Rusty]

I actually agree with ARPD Officers being handed SMG's it's only fair they are treated as second class quit alot.

[Gandalf]

Gandy, you have no choice to give freecops SMG to meet the vision but you're an owner? 

In order to have a more diverse leadership we have handed the directions of ARPD to the leader, and he happens to be the guy who scripted most of the current system. He also is inactive at this time  :devroll:

[Deam]

I think cops must get only deagle for free.

[Pancher]

Deam, there are IDEA's topic for IDEA's that you can post your proposal of changes