Is the Argonath Vision blurred? Do we need glasses?

[Caltson]

Just to throw it out there: Passports and licenses violate the Argonath Vision.
New players cannot buy a house, hotel, or car without a passport, which requires to be registered for at least 7 days minimum. New players cannot use any other skin other than the security guard skin without a passport.

Attempts to argue this statement with anything like MTA:VC HAD IT or NO IT DOESNT or attempting to change up my words will indefinitely make one a total bullshitter, as passports require some time for playing, which limits the playing of any player under one week old, particularly some rights that make the game more playable. Should Gandalf argue this statement, then I'm sorry to say that he will have contradicted himself.

Prove me wrong.

Argonath does give equal rights, New guys CAN get their passport and license, People CAN apply for a group and recieve extra rights.
You CAN apply for advanced functions, but EVERYONE has the same basic rights upon joining Argonath. The vision is correct.

[Jubin]

Argonath was not created for all to be equal. However it was created for new and existing players having the same kind of opportunities, without restrictions.

As said before, any system where players who pay get advantages over those who do not is against our Vision. If there is a way for every player, regardless of their country or age, to reach a VIP status without having to pay, we will consider giving some minor features.

We are not a place where all are equal, but we are a place where everyone can reach everything, if they show the right dedication and effort.

With this quote I am over and out from this topic.

 :ps: Also ends all of my current arguments ( with Kenny and older discussion with JDC)

[Pandalink]

Second, Proper English, and proper punctuation are different things,

No, not really. If you can't use punctuation correctly then you can't write english properly either.

you'll notice that it's still a complete properly using the english language without improper uses of words.

wat

[Vice]

Argonath was not created for all to be equal. However it was created for new and existing players having the same kind of opportunities, without restrictions.

As said before, any system where players who pay get advantages over those who do not is against our Vision. If there is a way for every player, regardless of their country or age, to reach a VIP status without having to pay, we will consider giving some minor features.

We are not a place where all are equal, but we are a place where everyone can reach everything, if they show the right dedication and effort.

Jubin quoted this post from Gandalf... and you can see the current system gives the same opportunities for everybody.

Curse, i see your point now... you think the SAPD is ruling every cop in SA:MP.. and we bossing around. In some way you are right, because we have authority over some situation (same as FBI or SWAT), that means we are the primary to investigate etc. in specific situations. With the new rules, indeed the SAPD cops are not supposed to open new police groups... they chose the SAPD for a specific type of  roleplay, the sapd type is similar to a "real life" police department.

As ARPD Officer.. you are still free to have your Own style of police RP.. and build up a new group.. the example is your Coastguard group. Of course you are not welcome if you want to replace the SAPD as another Metropolitan or State police department, but if you want to open new RP posibilites... as coastguard, or air force.. or army, you are welcome.. but you have to contact to the developers to get extra info because the ARPD forums is not the place to post your Group topic (except its official, approved by persidental office).

Note to Curse, if you really want to bring the coastguard RP to the next level... contact to the ARFD guys.. im sure they wont deny you.

ArgonathRPG gives chance to everybody... just you have to realise it, and use it good.

[Leon.]

Argonath does give equal rights, New guys CAN get their passport and license

Not without playing for 7 days first. Giving the right to get a passport license to a player more experienced by 7 days .

[Shammy_Araatus]

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I do not troll the dumb; look at your post, you speak worse than the iliterate. Dayum shame.

[Deam]

Jubin quoted this post from Gandalf... and you can see the current system gives the same opportunities for everybody.

Curse, i see your point now... you think the SAPD is ruling every cop in SA:MP.. and we bossing around. In some way you are right, because we have authority over some situation (same as FBI or SWAT), that means we are the primary to investigate etc. in specific situations. With the new rules, indeed the SAPD cops are not supposed to open new police groups... they chose the SAPD for a specific type of  roleplay, the sapd type is similar to a "real life" police department.

As ARPD Officer.. you are still free to have your Own style of police RP.. and build up a new group.. the example is your Coastguard group. Of course you are not welcome if you want to replace the SAPD as another Metropolitan or State police department, but if you want to open new RP posibilites... as coastguard, or air force.. or army, you are welcome.. but you have to contact to the developers to get extra info because the ARPD forums is not the place to post your Group topic (except its official, approved by persidental office).

Note to Curse, if you really want to bring the coastguard RP to the next level... contact to the ARFD guys.. im sure they wont deny you.

ArgonathRPG gives chance to everybody... just you have to realise it, and use it good.

If you have authority over some situation as SWAT and FBI, so why SWAT are more easily to enter than SAPD and FBI?
Also, in every situation SWAT can tell officers what to do and why SWAT can do everything then? (They can patrol streets, do trafficstops etc.?) So, they can order other cops to stay away from the suspect for example...that's not fair.

[Vice]

Deam... how would you know, when you are not involved as a cop. You are just talking, but the real cop rp-ers who are playing almost 24/7 as an officer on the server, knows what the system is.. and they understand, everything has its own place. And once again, you are wrong... SWAT is not doing regular traffic stops. If you are a dangerious criminal.. you can expect the SWAT team will be chasing you.

[Julio.]

Recently many newer players have been shitting on the SAPD.

This is a vague recount of one conversation.

Me: blahblahblah, surrender now
Guy does /gu
Me: Follow me please
Guy: No, I want the FBI to jail me at their building
Me: Why? Whats so special about the FBI?
Guy: I love their building, and SAPD abuse me
Me: Excuse me, since when did anyone abuse you?
Guy: a freecop sused me for no reason.
Me: You were suspected for irritating an officer, as you are me, does not seem abused
Guy: The FBI are better at being police than the SAPD
Me: FBI = Investigation
      SAPD = Police Force
Guy: I wanna be jailed by FBI!
CaptainCrazy: (speccing) You have /gu ed, please comply (something like that)
Me: Follow me now!
Guy: I WANT THE FBI
CaptainCrazy: (speccing) You have /gu ed and have not requested an investigation, please listen to the officers.
Guy PMs me: I wanna investigation !!!

We investigate, guy found guilty, etc.

Me: Follow us sir
Guy: I am abused!

After a long argument he was jailed.


This guy is deluded

[BlackBird]

^ Sieg fail; you should be castrated and killed with fire.

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superman was here

[Caltson]

I HEARD YOU LIEK DICK BRAH!!!!

Mate,

keep it ontopic.

[BlackBird]

Mate,

keep it ontopic.

ok, sorry.

[Deam]

Deam... how would you know, when you are not involved as a cop. You are just talking, but the real cop rp-ers who are playing almost 24/7 as an officer on the server, knows what the system is.. and they understand, everything has its own place. And once again, you are wrong... SWAT is not doing regular traffic stops. If you are a dangerious criminal.. you can expect the SWAT team will be chasing you.

I'm the man who take part in police action. I'm criminal and I can see how structures works. I got screens how SWAT patroling the streets and doing traffic stops. Also, my borther is playing here as a cop. I often sit near him and see what happens.
Some members of SWAT are non-rpers. They dont read /me or /em and just shooting, arresting you (I'm talking about SWAT because it must be more sctricted and special group)

[Vice]

Recently many newer players have been shitting on the SAPD.

thats still just 1 player... sometimes you hear ppl bullshitting the admins, or ppl bullshitting on gvardias...   and?


@deam: if you have complaint... just fill a report, you are just arguing without any evidences

[SafetyMoose]

I'm the man who take part in police action. I'm criminal and I can see how structures works. I got screens how SWAT patroling the streets and doing traffic stops. Also, my borther is playing here as a cop. I often sit near him and see what happens.
Some members of SWAT are non-rpers. They dont read /me or /em and just shooting, arresting you (I'm talking about SWAT because it must be more sctricted and special group)

If your a dangerous suspect then why would SWAT risk RPing with you if they might die? want to RP? /gu