Questioning before Punisments

[Aguila187]

Back in time, our admins used to ask questions to reported players, then punish if needed. It was fair for the both sides.
But nowadays I see a new fashion. When admins receive a report, they simply spectate the reported player for a second to check if the situation is similiar to report, then punish the player hardly. I mean, isn't that nonsense? Even if the reported player is guilty, shouldn't you have their opinion too, a look from their point of view? Can't you at least give them a few seconds to explain the situation?

I am not moaning or anything else. I believe that whoever dislikes the admin procedures/structure should f**k off as nobody is forcing them to stay here. That question is asked because such situations do hurt innocent people a lot.

[lavamike]

Hmm, when I can I usually attempt to ask for more details from the reporting player and other sources involved in the situation while watching the reported.

[CaptainCrazy]

It might look like it, but I can tell you that your perspective of it is definitely wrong.

[Huskar]

It might look like it, but I can tell you that your perspective of it is definitely wrong.

^ this is the admin who ask for option always )


and i really like your way of thinking Yuri

[SafetyMoose]

[Boozman]

??? :conf:

[StrikeFreedom]

So. Instead of punishing people, we should teleport them into a darkened room, tie them to a chair, shine a bright torch in their face and interrogate them? Get real. We don't have time to ask every reported player "OMG Y U DM IDXX????????????????"

[Gimli]

When admins receive a report, they simply spectate the reported player for a second to check if the situation is similiar to report, then punish the player hardly. I mean, isn't that nonsense?

It is, however 99% of the time that doesn't happen. To punish someone, admins must witness the situation themselves. If you feel you were punished unfairly, send an e-mail to [email protected] explaining the situation. Be sure to include the time and date.

[Antonio.]

 I can't agree anymore with you. Most of my bans, it's been like this. It's just a straight punishment, with no discussion. This should really be changed because talking to the players will help both sides understand more. How ever, there are still admins that actually talk to the players, but not so many as there should be. Like, EliteTerm or Jimmy Cuneo. Those are my two favorite admins.

So. Instead of punishing people, we should teleport them into a darkened room, tie them to a chair, shine a bright torch in their face and interrogate them? Get real. We don't have time to ask every reported player "OMG Y U DM IDXX????????????????"

There's a reason a lot of people talk about you behind your back.

[EminemRulez]

"OMG Y U DM IDXX????????????????"

Wrong question
it's more like:
"HAV U DM'D IDXX?????????????????"

[Kenny.]

It is common sense to investigate and ask both parties involved. Like gimili said admins should only take action if they witnessed it or some sort.

ps; Jimmy_cuneo my nigga, polite madafuckin admin unlike bluefox seriously dont get me started..

[Antonio.]

ps; Jimmy_cuneo my nigga, polite madaf**kin admin unlike bluefox seriously dont get me started..

Even though you're a complete ass. I agree with you.

[Leon.]

Everybody does it.

By it, I mean they take action like THAT and stick to their point of view, even if they think they're right. I do it, you do it, he does it, she does it... admin does it. The admin will often ban right as soon as they see something, sometimes throwing in assumptions (e.g., "/getout to avoid death," when in fact it was to not be banned for a different reason like "suicide as suspect"). They will then (we) convinced themselves (ourselves) that it is the truth, and then stick with it, even though they know its a lie.

* MetalLuigiX coughs badly and hacks up some mucus and spits it into a nearby trash can

Often times, people like admins who are constantly under pressure and making decisions in such a short period of time do decisions that seem the quickest route out. I've done it too, but at least I am admitting it. I've kicked an inactive member from Gvardia for not carrying out an order, not knowing he was inactive and nor did I bother to ask him if he was, or notify him. Switch it to an administration case; ban somebody for ignoring admins when in fact they were afk while not even checking to see if they were afk.
Admins of all people should be afraid to admit their mistakes, because they are the authority figures. Without respect because of their previous mistakes, nobody will listen to them. But without learning from the previous mistake, they will continue to make that same mistake. The only mistake is the one not corrected.

* MetalLuigiX coughs and hacks up even more mucus and spits it in his hands, rubbing them together and wiping them on his trousers

Well then, I guess I'm out of here.

* MetalLuigiX coughs a bit more on his way

[Jamal]

So. Instead of punishing people, we should teleport them into a darkened room, tie them to a chair, shine a bright torch in their face and interrogate them? Get real. We don't have time to ask every reported player "OMG Y U DM IDXX????????????????"

u funny!!!!

Nope sorry StrikeFreedom, what his post is asking is that admins take consideration and question before action [Unless its extreme such as hacking or mass deathmatch.'

Example: Player1 shoots Player2. Player2 fights back and hits Player1, Player1 reports Player2 for DM. Admins comes and sees Player2 is assaulting Player1.

Then the problem. The admin punishes player 2 for DM, but really its self defense against Player1 who was the actual DMer.

[StrikeFreedom]

u funny!!!!

Nope sorry StrikeFreedom, what his post is asking is that admins take consideration and question before action [Unless its extreme such as hacking or mass deathmatch.'

Example: Player1 shoots Player2. Player2 fights back and hits Player1, Player1 reports Player2 for DM. Admins comes and sees Player2 is assaulting Player1.

Then the problem. The admin punishes player 2 for DM, but really its self defense against Player1 who was the actual DMer.

It is, however 99% of the time that doesn't happen. To punish someone, admins must witness the situation themselves.

So. Instead of punishing people, we should teleport them into a darkened room, tie them to a chair, shine a bright torch in their face and interrogate them? Get real. We don't have time to ask every reported player "OMG Y U DM IDXX????????????????"