Questioning before Punisments

[Emre]

I have helped Argonath more than what you have seen. You have hardly been on this community so do not judge someone 4 years your "elder". I have done alot for the community in the past, more than you could ever hope to do. The people from Pre-2007 know what I have done, and I'm not going to sit here and explain it to you.

Oh yeah,over 1 1/2 years is HARDLY.
Its not amazingly long,but its acceptable.
Also,how you just name it up,sounds like you only did it for the reputation,not for the community.That's a shame ... you elder BUSH.
So,go on,name it all up,what you've done,when,why and for what purpose.I have time

[TheRock]

Gah, Cut it.

It's not an -show-off- topic, Neither you need to say how many things you've done for the community.
But only 1 thing I can say; If dave was not worth being an admin, he would not be in the team now. That's a clear fact.
Because the HQ, does not allow any person in the team, If you're chosen for it, It means you've showed your abilities and HQ believes you are ready for it.

[Dave]

Yeah. Believe what you want Emre.
I don't give two fucks about my reputation or if people respect me. I only care about working in this community as an admin. I couldn't care fucking less what you think about me, so piss off.

[Ben.]

Yeah, can we go back on-topic? I don't see the topic name as "Let's all flame Dave".
He's doing his best as an admin, and does his work efficiently. He shouldn't have to take abuse from players who don't know what it is to be an Argonath admin.

[Kenny.]

Each admin has a different way of dealing with situations. We are all from different waves and we were all trained differently.

In the end they all different and the players will prefer some admins over others, if no one likes you, its okay no need to cry.

Just grow the f**k up and deal with it.

Says the man who is streesed and about to go on rampage because of GTA!

Stop bad girling about how one admin does something you like, and another does something you don't.

Opinios are not bad girling, surely you can understand that or are you in the faze that players opinion might actually hurt your feelings?

We give our own f**king gameplay time to help you guys out and make the server a decent place to play on without 20 hackers running around. We get nothing for it yet you target us all the time for things, that most of the time, are your f**king problems.

You are having a nervous mental breakdown, then i suggest you resign as you are really streesed out. No one is asking you to be adminstrator and having to give your gameplay, however if you sign up for the job then stop moaning. ironic aint it the one whos moaning?

Yeah, because a player is never wrong, it's always the admin....

belive me its the other way round, stop stop playing dumb or blind.

[Altair_Carter]

So. Instead of punishing people, we should teleport them into a darkened room, tie them to a chair, shine a bright torch in their face and interrogate them? Get real. We don't have time to ask every reported player "OMG Y U DM IDXX????????????????"

Stop acting like an idiot and grow up a bit. It's nothing to be funny about.

[Altair_Carter]

And the admin is correct to punish player 2.

Admin is not correct in any case. What he did was a misunderstanding, but his actions were not right under any degree.

^ This is how it goes at my school anyway. They do not take into account that Bob1 started it, and Bob2 was acting in self-defense.

And if it was a murder attempt with lethal self-defence, Bob2 wouldn't be punished.

You do realise diffirent situations are handled diffirently? You can't compare fighting at school to srs internet business. This is an RP server after all.

Controlling anger? No. It's called cracking down on shitters who drag the community down.

Half of the people in here are not dragging community down.

I never said I was "kool". Do not make false accusations.

Sigh

I have recieved kicks and warnings in the past and they did not bother me. I dealt with them the proper way and didn't spread shit about the admin on the forums or ingame.

That was before admin restructure, with waay more adecuate admins and when community was moreover listened to.

I have helped Argonath more than what you have seen. You have hardly been on this community so do not judge someone 4 years your "elder". I have done alot for the community in the past, more than you could ever hope to do. The people from Pre-2007 know what I have done, and I'm not going to sit here and explain it to you.

People living in past don't have their future. Nobody will care what you've done in past if future won't be.

I couldn't care f**king less what you think about me

Definite admin talk.


Also, to speak about topic in general, from what i've seen there are posts about admins talking themselves out to show what good they've done, posts where admins try to tell how people think about them bad is bullshit and that kind of crap. Only TheRock and 1-2 other guys are within the topic, if you want to discuss admins in general create another thread.

[Zaila]

Ok, why the fuck are people still complaining on everything we admins do? If you dont like how it is on the server, you are free to drag your ass out of Argonath right now. Every week i see a new topic about how we admin sucks, and how we should get kicked out of the team just because we think we are gods and can do whatever the fuck we want. That is NOT the case, and it will never be. If you see an admin doing something wrong, you can report it to [email protected] or talk directly with the admin in question in a polite manner and solve it that way. Keep the bullshit up here, and you can forget to recieve any help from atleast me if you are reporting someone for DM'ing or carjacking or any other case.

[Ben.]

Oh yeah,over 1 1/2 years is HARDLY.
Its not amazingly long,but its acceptable.
Also,how you just name it up,sounds like you only did it for the reputation,not for the community.That's a shame ... you elder BUSH.
So,go on,name it all up,what you've done,when,why and for what purpose.I have time

I've been on Argonath 1 1/2 years too, but you don't see me bragging.

[Aguila187]

Ok, why the f**k are people still complaining on everything we admins do? If you dont like how it is on the server, you are free to drag your ass out of Argonath right now. Every week i see a new topic about how we admin sucks, and how we should get kicked out of the team just because we think we are gods and can do whatever the f**k we want. That is NOT the case, and it will never be. If you see an admin doing something wrong, you can report it to [email protected] or talk directly with the admin in question in a polite manner and solve it that way. Keep the bullshit up here, and you can forget to recieve any help from atleast me if you are reporting someone for DM'ing or carjacking or any other case.

You kind sir should've read the first post before posting anything, and perhaps clean your language. Ironically, in this topic the only provoking and bad mouthing people are admins...



Please lock that topic, my point was not to start another endless arguement..

[JayL]

Since players are complaining against every way we do our job, we should stop answering reports and questions someday.

[TheRock]

I've been on Argonath 1 1/2 years too, but you don't see me bragging.

a big LOL, What you just said is bragging

I agree with JayL, people would go: OH EM GEE HACKERS ALL OVER US! HEEEELP ADMINS!!!

In either way, Even IF we respond to an report or NOT respond it ends up the same.

Respond: ADMIN!! YOU SEE REPORT BUT YOU DO NOTHING!! WHY!! (While in fact, most of our punishments are not available to public. It can be, ajail, banana, or even a conversation)
Not respond: ADMIN!!! LOOK AT THE REPORTS bad guy!!

Same thing, people think it's 'easy' to take all this, but if you even tried it for a day, you'd shut your mouth then.

[Proxan]

a big LOL, What you just said is bragging

I agree with JayL, people would go: OH EM GEE HACKERS ALL OVER US! HEEEELP ADMINS!!!

In either way, Even IF we respond to an report or NOT respond it ends up the same.

Respond: ADMIN!! YOU SEE REPORT BUT YOU DO NOTHING!! WHY!! (While in fact, most of our punishments are not available to public. It can be, ajail, banana, or even a conversation)
Not respond: ADMIN!!! LOOK AT THE REPORTS bad guy!!

Same thing, people think it's 'easy' to take all this, but if you even tried it for a day, you'd shut your mouth then.

Could that be the reason more and more admins decided to use /warn alot more frequently to display it to the players, kinda lika a confirmation "Yes we responded to your report and took actions?"

[Zaila]

You kind sir should've read the first post before posting anything, and perhaps clean your language. Ironically, in this topic the only provoking and bad mouthing people are admins...

And you should not start to tell me what to do. Put yourself in our seat, we are trying our best to protect the server and the players. We are doing it for free, and we are using our free time to do it, and mostly the only we get back is bullshit from people which thinks they are right about everything and we are the bad guys just trying to boss them around. It has already made many admins to resign because they can't stand all the bullshit.

[TheRock]

/warn is never used when not necessary.
Some though, prefer to use it so other people can read other's punishments and never do the same.