A story

[Jamal]

[going to write short story because I just spent 20 minutes writing one and accidently tabbed or something and exited out of page, losing what I wrote.

Kidnapping happens. Jamal [ARPD officer] and LT Jingle_Bowling formulate a plan to save the hostage, but due to the amount of police officers, probably around 12 or so, concocting a plan had to be done in a CB channel because there is so much talk. Eventually the craziness ends and everyone knows the plan. It was either Jingle Bowling and I go in and pretend to offer the demands (20 grand) in a suitcase, and when the kidnapper is distracted, Jingle gives the go and he disarms the kidnapper and all the policemen storm in and save the hostage.

But, 2 men, [KI]Kirby, and [WS]Ben_Sammir, have decided to join in. After not discussing anything with any persaon, they walk up to the door and Jingle, obviously trying to get a new plan, suggests Ben and himself enter in. Without Kirby and ben even discussing, they both enter along with ARPD officers and ruin the whole roleplay for all of the policemen.

the blood of the hostage Spilled, and he was pronounced dead on the scene.  You wonder why? Probably because of 2 policemen... can you guess who? Yeah, well when Jamal asked one of the policemen, he gave no response, the other had a jolly time and attempted to troll Jamal, refusing to answer.

The End.

So, yeah, after a 20 minute plan and roleplay situation, 2 cool dudes come in and decide to take over without consulting me or I don't think Jingle_Bowling and costs the hostage's life.

Now, the point of this: What do you think about 'renegade' policemen who constantly cause trouble and do their own thing even though everyone else has a plan?

NO MOANING IN THIS TOPIC PLEASE...

[Brad.]

SRU-SWAT are the most efficent officers in SAPD, they are trained to go in and end situations with as little casualties as possible, Argonaths government does not give out ransoms for kidnappers, the kidnappers are given one chance to give up, if they refuse, they are to be shot on sight.  SRU-SWAT are trained on this basis, and worked under government instruction, there will always be casualties in circumstances like these.  You make an omelette without breaking any eggs.

(This is from a non SRU member, I'm a regular criminal, who gets into heated debates with SRU members on a daily basis, and I'm the one explaining this - bit ironic dont you think?)

[Jamal]

SRU-SWAT are the most efficent officers in SAPD, they are trained to go in and end situations with as little casualties as possible, Argonaths government does not give out ransoms for kidnappers, the kidnappers are given one chance to give up, if they refuse, they are to be shot on sight.  SRU-SWAT are trained on this basis, and worked under government instruction, there will always be casualties in circumstances like these.  You make an omelette without breaking any eggs.

(This is from a non SRU member, I'm a regular criminal, who gets into heated debates with SRU members on a daily basis, and I'm the one explaining this - bit ironic dont you think?)

Its not really how they did it, although that was pretty bad too, it was just that they completely ignored everyone and randomly appeared after everyone had a plan and ruined everything and then refused to respond when I asked them why. For the record, later one of the two were banned. If it was for this situation, I'm not sure. but it was for something about abusing cop rights I think.

[Brad.]

Its not really how they did it, although that was pretty bad too, it was just that they completely ignored everyone and randomly appeared after everyone had a plan and ruined everything and then refused to respond when I asked them why. For the record, later one of the two were banned. If it was for this situation, I'm not sure. but it was for something about abusing cop rights I think.

Next time you see Ben in game - /rank him - you do not order him about.

Kirby was later banned for "cop abuse" because, lets be honest, he suspected an admin who didnt want to be suspected.

[iMunna]

As the kidnapper, I was an eye witness that it was infact ARPD officers that stormed the building first, not Ben Samiir and Kirby. Although the role play was cut short, we should remember that this was a community based event whereas all players are free to implement their ways of role playing. It can be upsetting for a role play to carry on not the way you pleased, but we should also learn to place ourselves outside our comfort zone and be open to all distractions that take the situation in different directions. When dealing with an excommunicated player, I'd recommend visiting this topic.

[Jamal]

Next time you see Ben in game - /rank him - you do not order him about.

Kirby was later banned for "cop abuse" because, lets be honest, he suspected an admin who didnt want to be suspected.

In a situation like this, he had virtually little or no idea on the situation. He appeared in 2 minutes and ended it then. He should at least hold the decency to ask who is in charge. And why must he be in charge because his rank? Jingle Bowling allowed me to help him create a plane and other Ranked officers were following. Keep in mind i am an ARPD officer.

[Cofiliano]

Well duh, Its Ben the Batman and Kirby the Robin..what else have you expected really..

[Brad.]

In a situation like this, he had virtually little or no idea on the situation. He appeared in 2 minutes and ended it then. He should at least hold the decency to ask who is in charge. And why must he be in charge because his rank? Jingle Bowling allowed me to help him create a plane and other Ranked officers were following. Keep in mind i am an ARPD officer.

Where ranks are concerned, in police duties, the highest rank officer is to be breifed on arrival, and control is their, unless they state otherwise, no member of any policing force may take charge over a higher rank by their choice, even if they work in different departments, ultimatly, the highest rank officer calls the shots, unless they put someone else in charge, in your story, nowhere does it say "ben came up and sed ur in charge and then pew pewed them".

[Jamal]

Where ranks are concerned, in police duties, the highest rank officer is to be breifed on arrival, and control is their, unless they state otherwise, no member of any policing force may take charge over a higher rank by their choice, even if they work in different departments, ultimatly, the highest rank officer calls the shots, unless they put someone else in charge, in your story, nowhere does it say "ben came up and sed ur in charge and then pew pewed them".

What is this I dont even..

did you read my last post at all? He was not briefed on the situation is the first problem. Second problem he did not obey anyone else's askings and basically it looks like he came in to shoot people, not save the hostage.

[Brad.]

What is this I dont even..

did you read my last post at all? He was not briefed on the situation is the first problem. Second problem he did not obey anyone else's askings and basically it looks like he came in to shoot people, not save the hostage.

Yes I did, and I bet at no point did you say "Ben, wait, heres what is happening..."  In a 207, SRU are trained to be in charge, not go about asking everyone for information, in a hostage situation, speed is a key element, and unless you were to approach him and explain it, he would have no idea you were "calling the shots"

[Sago]

As the kidnapper, I was an eye witness that it was infact ARPD officers that stormed the building first, not Ben Samiir and Kirby.

Someone has a problem reading so let me explain this for you. THIS IS THE KIDNAPPERS POST. READ IT.

Ben and i entered.

Free cops were already inside shooting Munna by the time we got inside

Hostage died, Munna died, i died.

Oh and stop moaning kid. Nobody gives a crap what you think, say or do.

I'd get those eyes checked out though, just some friendly advice.

[Jamal]

Yes I did, and I bet at no point did you say "Ben, wait, heres what is happening..."  In a 207, SRU are trained to be in charge, not go about asking everyone for information, in a hostage situation, speed is a key element, and unless you were to approach him and explain it, he would have no idea you were "calling the shots"

LOL so SRU is now king of 207? I'm sorry that I wished to roleplay someone important for once instead of being pushed around by dark blue characters and actually have a say in something. I could not approach ben because he would not respond to me. not even afterwards.

Someone has a problem reading so let me explain this for you. THIS IS THE KIDNAPPERS POST. READ IT.

Ben and i entered.

Free cops were shooting Munna by the time we got inside

Hostage died, Munna died, i died.

Oh and stop moaning kid. Nobody gives a crap what you think.

OK there. Say what you want, I have already said what I want. I am not moaning. I am not a kid. Nobody gives a crap what I think, but you seem to have spent your time posting about what i said??? did i miss something? P.S. you tried to troll me when I asked you why you did what you did afterwards saying 'Jamal whats wrong man, calm down and sit 10 minutes.' Its funny how now your banned, your the one calming down and sitting. Its too bad you got what you deserved, isn't it...

[Brad.]

LOL so SRU is now king of 207? I'm sorry that I wished to roleplay someone important for once instead of being pushed around by dark blue characters and actually have a say in something. I could not approach ben because he would not respond to me. not even afterwards.

I hope you dont have an application in SAPD, 207's always deem SWAT attendance, if they are available.

[BlueFox]

Kirby was later banned for "cop abuse" because, lets be honest, he suspected an admin who didnt want to be suspected.

Don't tell stories you don't know.

[Hess]

Without Kirby and ben even discussing, they both enter along with ARPD officers and ruin the whole roleplay for all of the policemen.

Correction, Kirby and Ben were coordinating on Teamspeak. I was there along with other ARPD officers.