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Cop reward Reduced

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Reply #105 on: January 20, 2011, 10:11:49 am
Really like the idea. The DC&PC values could be changed a little bit (ex. +1 for crime reported, ppl often abuse this) but it's still nice. Let's just upgrade it and implement to the server for 1 week tests.



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Reply #106 on: January 20, 2011, 12:50:42 pm
Ask [WS]player123062 after he killed Klaus luckily when Klaus's bounty was over 150 ...
He currently owns roxor internationals.

I should show you my /c stats cop ingame, you'll see i didn't earnt more than $250.000 yet i'm a Chief and at least a shooter at Klaus' level (ask him about Paruni... :P). I don't really stay ingame for much, as i have another things to do.

This situation doesnt happens on vc...
Cops die 20- 30 times then kill a criminal luckily ...
Though keep hitting new ideas

You are stereotyping. That doesn't happens all the time. Multiple times i've seen cops take down criminals on 1, max. 2 attempts.

ahh blame criminals ...
Ok tell us what we do next time??
When we get suspected... We either get jailed/surrender, bribe, or get killed immediately...
Srsly...
All new players start becoming cops when they come in server. Earn good cash in 4-5 days, buy a car / biz , then get bored, and then leave away and never come back...

Please name who, except from newcommers who just visit the server for 1 day and eventually get bored of the RP mode as they are used to another game modes.

Also mind that atleast shotgun is free for cops...
Telling u a truth, all EAFers manage to get weps thanks to Neal, Denlow, Klaus, who put them in our hq...
And all EAF is rich thanks to Neal's ammunation. I am able to buy ocean beach hotel coz neal gave me 400 k,
But look at [DZ]Pyrus, [WS]Player123052, DaniGold who are always cop and self sufficient...
Its a serious imbalance!!

Also you get all that invisible thing... for vcid
Now you guys get EMP. You guys are always rolling with money and all...

We EAFers are able to "tame" cops only because of our "Team Work". Do you expect Freestyles or RmN to hold against cops??
They dont even have money to buy weps. They are still smuggling jewels. (Still in Dark age). So why cops get this much bonus?? when others cant.

lol



EDIT: The whole idea contest is actually interesting, go for it.

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Reply #107 on: January 20, 2011, 01:42:06 pm
It's a great idea Daddy, but.. Do you have to be on the server for 30 minutes to get the payday? Or can you just join every 29 minutes and get free 100, or AFK as cop and get free money without even doing shit?

From my opinion, the system there is now, is quite good, cops really don't roll on money, unless Klaus plays more than I thought  :lol:

Kessuu... if a cop joins after 29 minutes... His PC = 0
then, DC x PC = 0 ... Simple maths... Cop earned 0...

Daddy I like your idea very much ...
But You Didnt Considered Server Crash Between 0 - 30 Min, So Your Idea Failed ...



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Reply #108 on: January 20, 2011, 03:35:35 pm
ahh blame criminals ...
Ok tell us what we do next time??
When we get suspected... We either get jailed/surrender, bribe, or get killed immediately...
Srsly...
All new players start becoming cops when they come in server. Earn good cash in 4-5 days, buy a car / biz , then get bored, and then leave away and never come back...Also mind that atleast shotgun is free for cops...
Telling u a truth, all EAFers manage to get weps thanks to Neal, Denlow, Klaus, who put them in our hq...
And all EAF is rich thanks to Neal's ammunation. I am able to buy ocean beach hotel coz neal gave me 400 k,
But look at [DZ]Pyrus, [WS]Player123052, DaniGold who are always cop and self sufficient...
Its a serious imbalance!!

Also you get all that invisible thing... for vcid
Now you guys get EMP. You guys are always rolling with money and all...

We EAFers are able to "tame" cops only because of our "Team Work". Do you expect Freestyles or RmN to hold against cops??
They dont even have money to buy weps. They are still smuggling jewels. (Still in Dark age). So why cops get this much bonus?? when others cant.
F*cking exactly! So true about weapons part! I started playing 2-3 weeks ago (not sure), I have alliances with 2 biggest crews, I often do some side-work (thanks to guys like Spiral or JB) to earn money, and by the time, I should have like 2k of ammo for M4 in my HQ. But I don't for few reasons, the thing is, it is very un-balanced becoz:
-Cops have guns for free! and SWAT or VCID have fucking pwn guns for free if I understand right! The thing is u see, u kill the fucking cop, he respawns full of guns, for free, but you - you actually lose some ammo, aswell as money for weapons. Not to mention booN cops who chase every 1 wanted lvl suspect using a shotgun...Beginners have to smuggle and all to get money, make a name for themselfs to get some side-jobs, but cops? They can just wait for oportunnity to DM. MOST OF TIMES. The only easy way for beginners to get guns is smuggle - but because of retarded VC:MP, it actually costs to stash the guns in HQ! And of course, you lose them on death, or worse, on relog.



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Reply #109 on: January 20, 2011, 03:44:25 pm
-Cops have guns for free! and SWAT or VCID have f**king pwn guns for free if I understand right! The thing is u see, u kill the f**king cop, he respawns full of guns, for free, but you - you actually lose some ammo, aswell as money for weapons. Not to mention booN cops who chase every 1 wanted lvl suspect using a shotgun...Beginners have to smuggle and all to get money, make a name for themselfs to get some side-jobs, but cops? They can just wait for oportunnity to DM. MOST OF TIMES.

Ok.

Yes, cops have guns for free, it's government money talking about Roleplay-wide, but yes, it's free. It is and will always be.

And yes, SWAT and VCID are supposed to have special weaponry as these sub-divisions have complex and different tasks from the normal Officer.

About ''boon cops'', all cops are equipped with 9mm, a baton and a normal Shotgun, so it's logical he'll use a shotgun as it's his default weaponry, right?

Regarding the last phrase, i believe it's quite the other way around, sometimes. Yet, you go around blaming cops... Deathmatch is punishable, if you see a cop randomly-deathmatching you can always PM/MSN an admin or screenshot it and send to [email protected]...

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Reply #110 on: January 20, 2011, 04:02:07 pm
If I would like to report every cop that DMs I would need to take 70 pics each time I'm logged on for more than 1 hour.



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Reply #111 on: January 20, 2011, 04:40:37 pm
Why does smuggling jewels mean your still" in the dark ages"?
I think they do that because they actually want to rp, which what the server is meant for isnt it?.

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Reply #112 on: January 20, 2011, 06:33:49 pm
I think they do that because they actually want to rp
You see lots of RP when people smuggle? Ok then..

-Cops have guns for free! and SWAT or VCID have f**king pwn guns for free if I understand right! The thing is u see, u kill the f**king cop, he respawns full of guns, for free, but you - you actually lose some ammo, aswell as money for weapons.
Cops have guns for free because Mr President Gandy supplies them. Criminals are not supported by the government, unless their corrupt. Being a criminal is great fun, but it will always have its setbacks. Yes, you will need to be a lot more independent, resourceful, smarter and more efficient when being a criminal. Thats just the way it is
Not to mention booN cops who chase every 1 wanted lvl suspect using a shotgun..
Hey.. don't use booN out of context here. No ones a booN unless they're using the M60/Spaz


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Reply #113 on: January 21, 2011, 07:09:40 pm
Marcell, Leo and me said something similar to Spiral earlier and I think Klaus as well a little while ago.
Stereotypes...

As for SWAT/VCID - the permanent members of both teams are chosen after some consideration, not just "here ya go, see how many people you can murder :D".

If you see people abusing that, get the screenshots/whatever is relevant and send them in.



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Reply #114 on: January 22, 2011, 01:54:33 pm
But You Didnt Considered Server Crash Between 0 - 30 Min, So Your Idea Failed ...
First of all server doesnt crash every 30 mins....yes it does...but not that frequently.
Also .3zR2 is pretty stable than 0.3z, so timeouts wont affect much.
Even if it does...Server crash or player crash wont affect the income.
The cops will get it in the next payday.
So if you worked for the money, you WILL get it...no matter what happens....just wait for the next payday...your PC will remain saved.

But yeah, to get the income the cops will have to wait for the 30 mins to be over.
Which IMO is a good thing. Atleast the server will be active with cops waiting for the paydays.
If you missed a payday...you can come later and wait for the next payday....your PC will be secured in a file, so you wont lose the money made by your hardwork.
Also if someone played cop for 15 mins, then switched to civilian...he will also get his income in the next payday...

The only cons I see is...cops getting mad at each other, coz the DC represents the whole force.
So, some other nab cop can affect your income.
But if this is implemented, the cops will do better at team work. Maybe teach some newb cops on how to play actually.

Well....i dont think criminals will have any problems with this system. It fixes everything they have been crying about.
About cops....Yeah...it will get tough with you guys. But if it creates income stability in the server...then fuck you pigs! :D

So, if no-one has objections to this system...ill put it up for one week as Avey suggested. (though it is gonna take some time to script).
Please try come up with possible abuses/bugs/fails that can be exploited in this idea.
And dont tell me it sux AFTER i script it.....tell it nao!  :neutral:

Im waiting for Klaus, Leo, Marcus's opinions :)





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Reply #115 on: January 22, 2011, 01:56:57 pm
I'm cool as long as I will have my chance to brake Klaus bounty  :razz:
DO NOT remove wanted lvl plsplspls :D


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Reply #116 on: January 22, 2011, 02:27:07 pm
I'm cool as long as I will have my chance to brake Klaus bounty  :razz:
DO NOT remove wanted lvl plsplspls :D
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Let's roll!



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Reply #117 on: January 22, 2011, 03:16:41 pm
What the hell, let's just try it.



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Reply #118 on: January 22, 2011, 03:54:43 pm
Let's try it out, but a warning: some people might get pissed when a DMer affect their income.



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Reply #119 on: January 22, 2011, 05:20:39 pm
I'm cool as long as I will have my chance to brake Klaus bounty  :razz:
Lol. The idea sounds ok aXXo. But I think I'll have to see it in game to decide if it'll work out or not


 


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