/copban threats.

[Romeo]

He shouldn't be threatened with script punishment for doing something that is doing no one any harm. If the other cops involved are willing to carry out the situation in good faith then I cannot see the problem. People like the person threatening with copbans are the people who ruin Argonath for everyone else. These people should be banned from the community because they are destroying Argonath.

[Louis_Keyl]

He shouldn't be threatened with script punishment for doing something that is doing no one any harm. If the other cops involved are willing to carry out the situation in good faith then I cannot see the problem. People like the person threatening with copbans are the people who ruin Argonath for everyone else. These people should be banned from the community because they are destroying Argonath.

Then go ahead and ban me, and Gandalf for enforcing these rules
I was the one that threated them with a cop ban, by the way....

If you are a cop, there is not a single reason to open fire on a fellow cop.
As for making threats, I prefer actions.

[Kenny.]

JDC has copbanned a guy for flaming once, which is actually kickable/warnable/bannable offense.

Alexinho_Behlic   =AV=JDC_Kolta   30 days   January 29 2011 14:36   Undesirable attitude in cop radio
Rock_Milano   =AV=JDC_Kolta   30 days   February 6 2011 11:44   DMing on cop duty

The above is what makes copban so lethal and just pisses people off..

If someone is roleplaying a corrupt cop and is doing a fine job, a copban i will not issue, however i will bring a team of cops and /su for corruption and arrest that officer.

[newguy]

Alexinho_Behlic   =AV=JDC_Kolta   30 days   January 29 2011 14:36   Undesirable attitude in cop radio
Rock_Milano   =AV=JDC_Kolta   30 days   February 6 2011 11:44   DMing on cop duty

The above is what makes copban so lethal and just pisses people off..

If someone is roleplaying a corrupt cop and is doing a fine job, a copban i will not issue, however i will bring a team of cops and /su for corruption and arrest that officer.

Plenty enough of corrupts still on the roads.

[JDC]

Alexinho_Behlic   =AV=JDC_Kolta   30 days   January 29 2011 14:36   Undesirable attitude in cop radio
Rock_Milano   =AV=JDC_Kolta   30 days   February 6 2011 11:44   DMing on cop duty

The above is what makes copban so lethal and just pisses people off..

If someone is roleplaying a corrupt cop and is doing a fine job, a copban i will not issue, however i will bring a team of cops and /su for corruption and arrest that officer.

Corruption deserves to die.

People are complaining about many different cops abusing and misusing their powers / rights, and that is one of the things I am determined to stop. I don't care how much dead I leave in my way, as the only ones who will suffer from the punishments I impose are those who deserve it (except for the occasional pull-a-tai, which I can settle almost immediately- there are more individuals who can reverse a copban than you think).

Once I enter into the cop radio, I make it known to everyone in there that the first person I catch abusing their rights or fucking around in the radio (while being aware of the warning) will get a 1 hour copban. The next will get 1 day, the next a week, and the next after that a month.

Sometimes though I am more lenient. If I see a cop abusing civilians, I strip him of his weapons (through death, mostly) then I suspect him. That way he will know how his victims feel and he will not do it again.

[Chase]

Deliberate trolling and flaming on cop radio shall result in cop ban if continued after warning, I say.

I was always told by CBF that copban is to only be used on rulebreaks, not corruption. Corruption should lead to /su and jail, and copban for stuff like DMing and flaming.

If a cop DMs, flames, abuses /su for stupid reasons, I will warn if they are new players. If they're regulars, I copban them straight away as they should know better.

All this time I've personally been using copban, I stuck with what CBF told me, and will continue to unless a higher rank server manager / leader tells me otherwise.

In JDC's case, the copban was proper. The players were regulars, so they knew the rules, no need to warn them. If you use the cop radio as a way to troll / flame - you don't deserve to use it.... = copban. Although I must say, flaming on the radio isn't that big of an offense.. JDC shouldn't have copbanned him for an entire month for simply misusing the radio.

[Vince]

/copban is, as far as I'm concerned, used for command abuses ONLY. If used to restrict roleplay, it is against the rules.

It is not used for command abuses only, check page 34 (or something) or SA:MP Developers Give Examples.. maybe try and get up to date with the times before coming back with such a blast. :roll:

EDIT:

Two little references, see this (was a few pages off):

http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=18054.msg658038#msg658038

and this:

You are never obliged to be registered here, or to be accepted in to any of the departments to play as law enforcer. However all law enforcers need to obey the following rules:
1. All server rules must be followed.
2. You are law enforcer, this means you must act like one
3. Be polite, even if you wish to be strict
4. Never suspect people without a valid reason
5. If you are to give a fine, do not suspect
6. If people resist arrest, do not shoot them at once
7. Only use firearms when your life or that of civilians is in immediate danger
8. Never use firearms against a suspect that does not show a weapon
9. Use the PD cars as much as possible
10. Use the police radio as much as possible
11. Try not to work alone. Its more fun to work with others, especially experienced players

When you wish to dedicate most if not all your time to work as law enforcer, joining one of the departments is what you should do. When becoming a cadet, and later officer or higher you have to give up some freedom. The departments have more strict regulations as just trying to act like a cop, they require you to follow stricter guidelines and procedures.  This is not for all, but those who know a little about real cop work will actually enjoy it.  And once you have acquired the knowledge and training, you might aim for one of the special divisions where you can use special weapons and tactics.

Welcome to ARPD, Argonath Police Department. We are here to serve and protect the citizens of Argonath.

Any of them rules breached purposely and you're a regular trying to abuse the leniency of becoming a cop will be dealt with severally by a Sgt or above.

[Vince]

These people I should be banned from the community because they are I am destroying Argonath.

And just for the record, fixed. You are nothing but an antagonist trying to continuously wage war with cops vs criminals instead of understanding the meaning of player character and player...

[Kenny.]

Corruption deserves to die.

I am not debating the fact that you copbanned them, no. The point was how long do they deserve a copban for? 30 days for "Undesirable attitude in cop radio" ....i know strict but there is a limit

Once you come down back to earth you will realise the amount of days is not acceptable

[JDC]

I am not debating the fact that you copbanned them, no. The point was how long do they deserve a copban for? 30 days for "Undesirable attitude in cop radio" ....i know strict but there is a limit

Once you come down back to earth you will realise the amount of days is not acceptable

He knew what he was doing, yet he continued anyway. Harsh offenses deserve harsh punishments.

Maybe you do not want to reform the negative attitude many cops have in general, but I do, and I will use any method I feel to be necessary.

[Jcstodds]

  If copban is thought to be unfair, they can contact [email protected] about it. As admins are not really in their right to undermine another admins punishment.

[Kenny.]

Maybe you do not want to reform the negative attitude many cops have in general, but I do, and I will use any method I feel to be necessary.

You must be one of those admins this quote really relates to "To admins: There is a command /tempban... Do you have an idea? Stop use the permban button on every fart... "

[JDC]

You must be one of those admins this quote really relates to "To admins: There is a command /tempban... Do you have an idea? Stop use the permban button on every fart... "

> Implying a copban is a form of permanent and inescapable suffering.

[[SE]Dr_Pepper27]

  If they are good enough RPers then no one would cop ban them...

Almost everyone with a /bancop command will. They ban you for the most idiotic reasons these days...

It is not used for command abuses only, check page 34 (or something) or SA:MP Developers Give Examples.. maybe try and get up to date with the times before coming back with such a blast. :roll:

EDIT:

Two little references, see this (was a few pages off):

http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=18054.msg658038#msg658038

and this:

Any of them rules breached purposely and you're a regular trying to abuse the leniency of becoming a cop will be dealt with severally by a Sgt or above.

by the way, almost every cop does all those things, they shoot you as long as your name is orange.

[Jcstodds]

  Those who are good RPers do not get copbanned, simply because no admin would punish good RP. As for SAPD, they are allowed to punish corrupt cops with a copban, but if you are a good RPer, chances are they wont. Good RPers will roleplay with cops and usually end up with a RP punishment.