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Reply #30 on: February 13, 2011, 06:35:08 pm
If you had any roleplay sense you'd have jumped for cover and started shooting at it.
If you had any roleplay sense you'd run away instead of shooting at a weapon of (almost) mass destruction.

http://argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=46601.0
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The entire reason we have Hydra/Hunter on the server is because cops don't know how to work together. Sadly


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Reply #31 on: February 13, 2011, 06:37:56 pm
If you had any roleplay sense you'd run away instead of shooting a weapon of (almost) mass destruction.

If you had any common sense you wouldn't provoke people over an Internet forum, so stop with that.

Requesting this lock since it starting to be a argument topic.


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Reply #32 on: February 13, 2011, 06:40:24 pm
If you had any roleplay sense you'd run away instead of shooting a weapon of (almost) mass destruction.

That seems like the pussies option. Get some nuts.



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Reply #33 on: February 13, 2011, 07:05:51 pm
Get some nuts.

If you had any common sense you wouldn't provoke people over an Internet forum, so stop with that.
Do I know you? 

http://argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=46601.0
Quote from: ElMartu on WS Forums --->http://www.wshadows.com/forum/index.php?topic=1012.msg15914#msg15914 date=1274383278
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Reply #34 on: February 13, 2011, 07:10:53 pm



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Reply #35 on: February 13, 2011, 07:19:32 pm
If you had any common sense you wouldn't provoke people over an Internet forum, so stop with that.

Requesting this lock since it starting to be a argument topic.
Murtaugh please leave my thread alone with the lock stuff |:



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Reply #36 on: February 13, 2011, 07:32:01 pm
Murtaugh please leave my thread alone with the lock stuff |:

The sadly truth is that my bottom line there is true.


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Reply #37 on: February 13, 2011, 08:09:41 pm
We are under obligation to ensure the hydra is not abused, especially by malevolent individuals like Flak. Even on spawning the hydra, the spawner receives a server message "Hydra deployed, DO NOT let it get abused". Screenies can be provided if you want it.

Also, anyone who steals hydra deserves to die. I personally see to that.
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Reply #38 on: February 13, 2011, 08:14:01 pm
Clear script abuse.

Did you roleplay snatching the keys off FBI Agent EdwardC?

No Roleplay was done,
That would be like saying cops have to roleplay carjacking a suspect to stop them. Furthermore, Gandalf said in the SAMP guide that this would be an overuse of /me as there is an animation to depict this action already therefore you are not obliged to use /me steals the keys off Edward to gain access to the Hydra if it is being left unattended by the pilot.

And to make it clear we can remove it to stop abuse of u killing around.
The admins are the players responsible for the prevention of script abuse, not the FBI.

You were about to shoot edward, WHILE you were a civilian and helping your friends?

A) Thats cop hunt, you may not engage if you're not a suspect
B) Highjacking is against rules and its a serious offense

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[03:42:01] <Flaken_Ancelotti> (25) No one was in it, he was beside it trying to snipe

You need to read the rules again and need to acclimatise yourself to reading and comprehension on a wider level too. You are allowed to attack a cop if he is aiming at you as the cop is engaging. Civilians nor suspects 'engage', however if a cop aims at somebody, suspect or civilian they are engaging and therefore can be attacked.

There is no such thing as 'highjacking' on this server as there are no passenger planes, it is not a server rule and not a serious offense. Carjacking is a crime if it is without the consent of the driver. Edward was not in the driver position and had already engaged, Flaken would have been able to carjack the Hydra with Edward inside it as Edward had engaged by aiming his sniper rifle in his direction which is a belligerent thing to do.

Flaken could also have shot down the Hydra whilst Edward was trying to flee because it is Edward's fault for engaging, Flaken may have decided to use the Hydra to his own advantage due to the carelessness of Edward and had every right to blast Edward after gaining control of the Hydra though it would have been cophunting if he was to actively pursue cops who were not engaging against him.

I don't understand why the Hydra/Hunter are not allowed to be used by suspects, they cannot be called in by them hence can only use them as a direct result of negligent behaviour from a highly ranked cop. There should be disciplinary action taken against Edward for bringing the FBI into disrepute and being negligent in addition to aiming at a civilian and being disciplined by administration for his abuse of scripts. This is an equivalent abuse of scripts as the repeated abuse of /weaponequip by former FBI Agent Lite.

We are under obligation to ensure the hydra is not abused, especially by malevolent individuals like Flak. Even on spawning the hydra, the spawner receives a server message "Hydra deployed, DO NOT let it get abused". Screenies can be provided if you want it.

Also, anyone who steals hydra deserves to die. I personally see to that.
The admins are the players responsible for the prevention of script abuse, not the FBI. You are in no position to be prejudical and label someone as malevolent either.

I see taking away the unattended Hydra by despawning it with a command, same type of 'abuse' as /q'ing when someone takes your car/plane.  :neutral:

Clear script abuse.

If you're going to be a cunt and leave the Hydra unattended you should have to suffer the consequences. If the person who spawns it is retarded enough to not stay in it and leave it unattended they should no be allowed to spawn it.

In the first place,the one who spawned/manage/is flying the hydra is RESPONSIBLE for any thing that happens to the hydra. Leaving the hydra unattended then a player steals it, your fault at the beggining. Unless you are flying it then someone hijacks you, that's rulebreak. 'Great powers come with great responsibility'

I hope the FBI will severely punish the agent for letting a Hydra unattended, thus needing to activate the cloaking device to protect from civil use. Loss of his spawn rights would be appropriate.

Not letting the Hydra be abused means a pilot should be present in it and active at all time. Dumping it because you fail is script abuse.
Indeed. So when are his rights going to be removed and/or admin punishment for the abuse of scripts?

although even if you did he still would have removed it or he would have been in trouble. This is a catch 22 situation.
Yes, it is a catch twenty-two situation nonetheless it is entirely Edward's fault for letting it become one - he should suffer the repercussions of his negligent actions and not comprimise server rules by abusing scripts to avoid death here. At the very least, he could have tried to jack the Hydra back.

It seems that he was following FBI procedures, so EdwardC is not at fault... whoever made the FBI procedure should check it against server rules.
The FBI procedure tells the FBI to ensure the Hydra is not abused, this would mean to stay in the Hydra and not leave it unattended. It did not mean abuse scripts to do so - this means that the FBI procedure is correct but Edward is at fault for breaking server rules. The comparison to this would be suspects, whose aim is to escape from the cops using speed hacks to get away from the cops. What this topic has shown that the recall function of the Hydra/Hunter is a useless command and it should be removed and to remove a Hydra or a Hunter, it should be destroyed.

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Reply #39 on: February 13, 2011, 08:29:19 pm
The sadly truth is that my bottom line there is true.
I srsly dont know if you are trying to troll with the lock topic stuff, but imo it is a very good way to troll, I am srs



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Reply #40 on: February 13, 2011, 08:39:51 pm
I srsly dont know if you are trying to troll with the lock topic stuff, but imo it is a very good way to troll, I am srs

I am not a troll and are not trolling, just looking in the future.

Topics like this always get way out of hand.


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Reply #41 on: February 13, 2011, 08:41:33 pm
Problem was solved on the second page, so why do you guys even continue arguing?
Just look at the 2nd page lol



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Reply #42 on: February 13, 2011, 08:56:13 pm
guys i got an idea lets keep arguing over a situation which has already gotten answered by server owner


I hope the FBI will severely punish the agent for letting a Hydra unattended, thus needing to activate the cloaking device to protect from civil use. Loss of his spawn rights would be appropriate.

Not letting the Hydra be abused means a pilot should be present in it and active at all time. Dumping it because you fail is script abuse.



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Reply #43 on: February 13, 2011, 08:59:56 pm
guys i got an idea lets keep arguing over a situation which has already gotten answered by server owner


He later said Edward is not at fault at all, making your quote completely useless.

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Reply #44 on: February 13, 2011, 11:09:45 pm
Does this mean I get my hydra back? {}:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::



 


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