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Reply #135 on: March 20, 2011, 02:28:02 am
Make hashish out of the leafs.



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Reply #136 on: March 20, 2011, 02:57:31 am
Uhm, in the first pages I've read some things about Sexual Capabilities and people saying they don't feel anything.
It's not the fact if you feel anything, but if you smoke anything in daily-basis, that will cause problems.
Problems like that is not things that you will feel, but you will face when you attempt to have a family in the future.

Personally, I used to smoke cigars in Summer of 2010, for around 9 weeks to be honest. It was all because of stress for my school exams, and some issues I used to have that time. I've quit smoking with my own willing, to start working out. And I'm good at it, because I want it.
I've only had one try of Cannabis, and not even a full cig.... but just one blow. Of-course, because it was a long time after I had stopped smoking, it was a problem to me, and got me coughing hard. Anyways, currently I got to a school on which, 70% of the students smoke... My class-mates smoke, my teachers smoke... my girlfriend smoke... my best friends smoke.. even my parents smoke! and there's also around 15% of the students from my school, who light up joints and smoke cannabis AT school..

I don't feel bad for it, I got over my problems so I quit smoking by my self, but on school... it's like I'm smoking too, without my own willing. Just cause everywhere you go, people are smoking. Anyways, I never been much into Alcohol or anything. In total since now, I've smoked for like 9 weeks... got drunk by Alcohol, like only 2 times in past... and until there.
I don't drink coffees, I don't smoke, I don't do drugs. And I'm pretty good.

I'm not saying that people who do anything from above are in a bad shape or bad condition, but I can surely be sure that they will have some-type of problem in future when they get older.
And yea, I don't care if someone smokes or do anything, because that's not gonna change the way I judge people around me. Everyone has his/her own habits.

Like with steroids who a few people use here at ANY age, a 15-year old male, will not give a f**k about how f**ked his life gonna be, or how many heart attacks he may come across when he is 50 years old, when taking steroids at such a young age.

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Reply #137 on: March 20, 2011, 10:03:01 am
You can get cancer out of drinking milk. If marijuana makes people happy, and increases their social capacity, then no one can take it away from them. That's my opinion. People are simply enlarging the whole situation with marijuana and it's very funny to see, but at the same time; very annoying.

Our discussion is more about cancer than marijuana as a drug. I'll leave that to someone else, I already know the true facts due to real life happenings and very educated knowledge when it comes to any substances or drugs.

I fully understand the reason why my texts appear to be annoying. They are adressing an issue that writes in a negative way about something you're consuming in real life. Try to take away the Cafeine from coffee drinkers, they won't say it's bad either and i agree, one cup of coffee isn't bad for the human body.
However, how many times more you try to say Marijuana is good in any way, I'll disagree. There is no single reason, apart from the physical manipulation of the brain that gives you that happy feeling, that marijuana is good.
Milk can be dangerous ONLY if used in too high concentrations, such as drinking (industrial edited) milk every hour a day. Industrial milk, the one you buy at your local store contains extra calcium, which is dangerous when consumed in high portions.
Still, the biological milk is rich with enzyms that improve the digestion. Drink milk unedited by the industry, and it won't be even dangerous.
Marijuana is dangerous even used in smaller amounts. The smoke will affect your body and cause an immune-reaction from your body. This is why many people suffer from headaches after their first smoke and even get problems with their stomach. Caughing is also a way to loose smoke trapped in your body.
Our discussion is a detailed one, about marijuana and what it brings forth.
You're right that many people do not die from an overdose of marijuana, unlike asperine and such, but it is generally known that marijuana is the base of getting lung cancer directly when used on avarage base.
Your facts will be most likely based regarding your surroundings, but not describing how you feel on the inside. If you want the true facts, consult a professor to make a full blood profile for you. Then you'll see where the problem houses.
It is not a fact that when you feel yourself good that your body is healthy, For a fact; Cancer takes 7-8 years to develop inside your body. Within this incubation time you or the local doctor won't even notice it is there, until it has developed as a small tumor of a few millimeters.
Ask yourself the question: Is it because I feel good that my body is healthy? Do my actions support my body in a good way?

If both turn out to be negative, then it's time to start working on that before the surgeries have to start. This situation is not getting enlarged, it's simply sharing my work around this. This is the way things are and will ever be like. The human body wasn't designed to inhale smoke or such, this is why the allergic reactions come in.

I Agree, I do not maintain the right to force you to stop the usage of marijuana, but I can make you aware of all the bad sides in detail. You are aware that it is bad, but you don't know how.
If your life is precious to you, then my advise is to take care of your body instead of taking care of your buddies. People must start looking more to their own body, do you want to destroy it with substances like marijuana, cigaretters and other overconsumptions? Fine, your life, not my problem. Shame that less-fortunate people get born with bad organs whilst you are destroying your own. Perhaps you should give the guy your organs and take his bad organs, you'll be destroying your own anyway. At least then the less-fortunate people has a better life, and you can do whatever you were doing.

Do you ever plan getting children? Ever tought what quality your sperm will have after daily consumptions of weed? The child is a direct victim of lung cancer aswell, his risks are increased aswell.

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Reply #138 on: March 20, 2011, 11:34:00 am
People are born with bad feet and you run around ruining a perfect pair of feet by exercising to feel good. Thats very selfish etc



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Reply #139 on: March 20, 2011, 12:36:32 pm
People are born with bad feet and you run around ruining a perfect pair of feet by exercising to feel good. Thats very selfish etc

You use your feet to walk, that's what they're designed for... Are you trying to say lungs were created to handle with smoke and end up with cancer?

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Reply #140 on: March 20, 2011, 01:32:01 pm
I fully understand the reason why my texts appear to be annoying. They are adressing an issue that writes in a negative way about something you're consuming in real life. Try to take away the Cafeine from coffee drinkers, they won't say it's bad either and i agree, one cup of coffee isn't bad for the human body.
However, how many times more you try to say Marijuana is good in any way, I'll disagree. There is no single reason, apart from the physical manipulation of the brain that gives you that happy feeling, that marijuana is good.
Milk can be dangerous ONLY if used in too high concentrations, such as drinking (industrial edited) milk every hour a day. Industrial milk, the one you buy at your local store contains extra calcium, which is dangerous when consumed in high portions.
Still, the biological milk is rich with enzyms that improve the digestion. Drink milk unedited by the industry, and it won't be even dangerous.
Marijuana is dangerous even used in smaller amounts. The smoke will affect your body and cause an immune-reaction from your body. This is why many people suffer from headaches after their first smoke and even get problems with their stomach. Caughing is also a way to loose smoke trapped in your body.
Our discussion is a detailed one, about marijuana and what it brings forth.
You're right that many people do not die from an overdose of marijuana, unlike asperine and such, but it is generally known that marijuana is the base of getting lung cancer directly when used on avarage base.
Your facts will be most likely based regarding your surroundings, but not describing how you feel on the inside. If you want the true facts, consult a professor to make a full blood profile for you. Then you'll see where the problem houses.
It is not a fact that when you feel yourself good that your body is healthy, For a fact; Cancer takes 7-8 years to develop inside your body. Within this incubation time you or the local doctor won't even notice it is there, until it has developed as a small tumor of a few millimeters.
Ask yourself the question: Is it because I feel good that my body is healthy? Do my actions support my body in a good way?

If both turn out to be negative, then it's time to start working on that before the surgeries have to start. This situation is not getting enlarged, it's simply sharing my work around this. This is the way things are and will ever be like. The human body wasn't designed to inhale smoke or such, this is why the allergic reactions come in.

I Agree, I do not maintain the right to force you to stop the usage of marijuana, but I can make you aware of all the bad sides in detail. You are aware that it is bad, but you don't know how.
If your life is precious to you, then my advise is to take care of your body instead of taking care of your buddies. People must start looking more to their own body, do you want to destroy it with substances like marijuana, cigaretters and other overconsumptions? Fine, your life, not my problem. Shame that less-fortunate people get born with bad organs whilst you are destroying your own. Perhaps you should give the guy your organs and take his bad organs, you'll be destroying your own anyway. At least then the less-fortunate people has a better life, and you can do whatever you were doing.

Do you ever plan getting children? Ever tought what quality your sperm will have after daily consumptions of weed? The child is a direct victim of lung cancer aswell, his risks are increased aswell.

You can't really keep your body healthy. People screwed up the system so wherever you go, there will always be something that will make yourself unhealthy.
For example; coca cola, pizza, red bull, alcohol, weed, cigarettes, computer gaming, read a book without lights around you, be close to gasoline all day, drive a car because you can die, being in the city, other drugs and substances, stress, no workout, radiation, debris, the smoke of fire, teflon, carpet, plastic food containers, microwave food and popcorn, microwave radiation,  your humidifier, lead and ink, sit too close to an old television, eat too much of sugar, coffee.

And these example does not contain the deadly sports as:
skydiving, cliff diving, motocross, moto gp, f1, bmx, inline skating, jet skiing, speed sailing, snorkeling, wake boarding, sand boarding, snowboarding, rally, extreme mountain biking, outdoor climbing, base jumpiing, bungee jumping, marketing, parkour, paintball, caving, ice climbing, powered paragliding, even soccer and ice hockey.

For the first stated examples, you simply face all these things everyday. The only thing you might not face is marijuana, it depends where you live. But by exclude every thing of those because you want to live a healthy life, that will just be absurd. If your goal in life is to live long and forever, then you will more likely have a very boring life no matter what.

You're right that many people do not die from an overdose of marijuana, unlike asperine and such, but it is generally known that marijuana is the base of getting lung cancer directly when used on avarage base.
When you mix up marijuana with tobacco the danger will increase. But at the moment, you're mixing up which of these whose is the most dangerous thing. Tobacco causes you lung cancer, that has already been proven. You can't find a single test where marijuana should be the main factor or lung cancer.

Do you ever plan getting children? Ever tought what quality your sperm will have after daily consumptions of weed?
The government experts also concede that pot has no permanent effect on the male or female reproductive systems. A few studies have suggested that heavy marijuana use may have a reversible, suppressive effect on male testicular function. In contrast, heavy alcohol drinking is known to lower testosterone levels and cause impotence. A couple of other lab studies indicated that very heavy marijuana smoking might lower sperm counts. However, surveys of chronic smokers have turned up no indication of infertility or other abnormalities.

Ask yourself the question: Is it because I feel good that my body is healthy? Do my actions support my body in a good way?
If you're enjoying what you're doing, and if you're satisfied by that, let it be that way. Nor if it's unhealthy or healthy. I'm not saying that people should go on heroin shooting needles, the sense is still very important. Some people lost it somewhere, that's the sad story.

I fully understand the reason why my texts appear to be annoying. They are adressing an issue that writes in a negative way about something you're consuming in real life.
You're telling negatives sides om something you never ever tried in your life. The only real knowledge you'll get is by facing the issue itself. Whether it is about deaths, drugs, extreme happenings, or just pure love. No one else can come up to you with so-called facts and stuff, when you know that's not how it is.

Ok, but
if I vaporize my weed, or consume it in edible form?



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Reply #141 on: March 20, 2011, 03:01:37 pm
While it is true that cancer cells won't be at an advantage to kill themselves by killing you off, they will kill both themselves and you off, by surviving.

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Reply #142 on: March 20, 2011, 03:55:38 pm
I find it hilarious that tobacco and alcohol is legal, yet cannabis isn't. Oh well, not a big surprise though is it? The governement aren't making money from it, so they ban it.

No, actually Goverment makes alot of money from it.They made it illegal, so they could earn more from it. Everything thats illegal = more expensive...




And about weed, im not really an expert, i smoke it sometimes, i smoke hybrid mostly. Sometimes skank :D

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Reply #143 on: March 20, 2011, 04:51:25 pm
No, actually Goverment makes alot of money from it.They made it illegal, so they could earn more from it. Everything thats illegal = more expensive...
I did not understand what you wanted to point out.



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Reply #144 on: March 20, 2011, 06:36:27 pm
No, actually Goverment makes alot of money from it.They made it illegal, so they could earn more from it. Everything thats illegal = more expensive...




And about weed, im not really an expert, i smoke it sometimes, i smoke hybrid mostly. Sometimes skank :D

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Reply #145 on: March 20, 2011, 08:00:25 pm
You use your feet to walk, that's what they're designed for... Are you trying to say lungs were created to handle with smoke and end up with cancer?
I'm just saying that it's not really right to call someone a bad, selfish person just because said person likes to smoke a little bit of weed now and then (when there are people with bad lungs like you said).



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Reply #146 on: March 20, 2011, 08:17:08 pm
You can't really keep your body healthy. People screwed up the system so wherever you go, there will always be something that will make yourself unhealthy.
For example; coca cola, pizza, red bull, alcohol, weed, cigarettes, computer gaming, read a book without lights around you, be close to gasoline all day, drive a car because you can die, being in the city, other drugs and substances, stress, no workout, radiation, debris, the smoke of fire, teflon, carpet, plastic food containers, microwave food and popcorn, microwave radiation,  your humidifier, lead and ink, sit too close to an old television, eat too much of sugar, coffee.

And these example does not contain the deadly sports as:
skydiving, cliff diving, motocross, moto gp, f1, bmx, inline skating, jet skiing, speed sailing, snorkeling, wake boarding, sand boarding, snowboarding, rally, extreme mountain biking, outdoor climbing, base jumpiing, bungee jumping, marketing, parkour, paintball, caving, ice climbing, powered paragliding, even soccer and ice hockey.

For the first stated examples, you simply face all these things everyday. The only thing you might not face is marijuana, it depends where you live. But by exclude every thing of those because you want to live a healthy life, that will just be absurd. If your goal in life is to live long and forever, then you will more likely have a very boring life no matter what.
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Things you're writing at the moment are very very non-related to the plant called marijuana.
This is not about what is healty or not, but about the negative sides of marijuana. Even tough i'd like to say that it is possible to lead a healthy and interesting life. Perhaps there is an option that's being underrated and unknown, but it's power can enchance your complete body.

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When you mix up marijuana with tobacco the danger will increase. But at the moment, you're mixing up which of these whose is the most dangerous thing. Tobacco causes you lung cancer, that has already been proven. You can't find a single test where marijuana should be the main factor or lung cancer.

You can get cancer, perhaps you can't find the tests on the internet tough.

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The government experts also concede that pot has no permanent effect on the male or female reproductive systems. A few studies have suggested that heavy marijuana use may have a reversible, suppressive effect on male testicular function. In contrast, heavy alcohol drinking is known to lower testosterone levels and cause impotence. A couple of other lab studies indicated that very heavy marijuana smoking might lower sperm counts. However, surveys of chronic smokers have turned up no indication of infertility or other abnormalities.

Provide the reference of the particular tests you found. According to my own notes and study revision this is simply wrong. As mentioned before that everyone is biochemically different + If it wasn't dangerous, why do you think your body reacts to it?

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If you're enjoying what you're doing, and if you're satisfied by that, let it be that way. Nor if it's unhealthy or healthy. I'm not saying that people should go on heroin shooting needles, the sense is still very important. Some people lost it somewhere, that's the sad story.

True, I Agree. Problem with Marijuana tough is that the danger is signifant higher than other actions you can do in life. If you eat junk food all day, never get out your house, spend your time behind the computer all day with the cell phone pasted against your ear, it's your choise, but still that would be more healthy than smoking Marijuana. That's the potentional danger factor.

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You're telling negatives sides om something you never ever tried in your life. The only real knowledge you'll get is by facing the issue itself. Whether it is about deaths, drugs, extreme happenings, or just pure love. No one else can come up to you with so-called facts and stuff, when you know that's not how it is.

Who said I never faced this issue? As said a couple of times before, additionally being ignored by everyone, I do not speak as a wiseguy, but base my opinion on own experience proven with my own studies. If i would be looking on wikipedia to find something just to be an ass on this topic, there has been created a clear wrong image of me.

While it is true that cancer cells won't be at an advantage to kill themselves by killing you off, they will kill both themselves and you off, by surviving.

Cancer cells will not kill your body. It is the chemo therapy that kills you. The avarage people have the wrong image of Cancer. Knowing that everyone, including myself and the rest of Argonath has at this very moment more than 1,000 Cancer cells in his own body and it's always within your body. It will never kill you, but prevent Cancer from breaking trough larger and complexer cell structures like tumors.

I'm just saying that it's not really right to call someone a bad, selfish person just because said person likes to smoke a little bit of weed now and then (when there are people with bad lungs like you said).

The words that were given by me should not be taken entirely personal, as everyone has his own character and smoking does not decide the final characteristics of a particular person. However, seen in the context of the discussion and with the example I gave, why not? Don't you feel bad destroying your own body whilst other people wish to have a vital one...?

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Reply #147 on: March 20, 2011, 08:58:47 pm
You can get cancer, perhaps you can't find the tests on the internet tough.
I'm not taking important information out of internet, I'm talking from real life experiences and significantly wise education from specific persons to documentaries in books and on television.
Provide the reference of the particular tests you found. According to my own notes and study revision this is simply wrong.
Because you're believing in very legendary myths, which can be shown if you just look the other direction, and not straightly towards the bad sides of marijuana.
If it wasn't dangerous, why do you think your body reacts to it?
Nobody ever said it ain't dangerous.
If you eat junk food all day, never get out your house, spend your time behind the computer all day with the cell phone pasted against your ear, it's your choise, but still that would be more healthy than smoking Marijuana. That's the potentional danger factor.
Junk food all day will more likely cause high blood sugar and diabetes. Never get out of your house will be unhealthy and make your extremely vulnerable whenever it comes to anything. Spend time at your computer all day will reduce your vision a lot, you will also have issues with lights because you're mostly focusing on a bright screen surrounded by a dark room. Having a cell phone at your ear will cause your tumors or renal hearing. According to your own statements, and examples above; these are considered less dangerous than smoking marijuana. I'm almost impregnable to hear more, at the moment.
Who said I never faced this issue?
I'm facing the drug every day, I can incontrovertibly tell you that you don't know anything about it. You might believe in statistics and as you say "your own experiences and studies", but what you know is not enough. Simply the things you talk about are myths, that can be inevitably found on the internet. I'd advice you once again to take a closer look on both sides, and not at the direction you want to look at. That will make you very unilateral.
Knowing that everyone, including myself and the rest of Argonath has at this very moment more than 1,000 Cancer cells in his own body and it's always within your body.
That's right.



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Reply #148 on: March 20, 2011, 09:36:03 pm
True, I Agree. Problem with Marijuana tough is that the danger is signifant higher than other actions you can do in life. If you eat junk food all day, never get out your house, spend your time behind the computer all day with the cell phone pasted against your ear, it's your choise, but still that would be more healthy than smoking Marijuana. That's the potentional danger factor.
Bullshit.



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Reply #149 on: March 20, 2011, 09:37:19 pm
I'm not taking important information out of internet, I'm talking from real life experiences and significantly wise education from specific persons to documentaries in books and on television.Because you're believing in very legendary myths, which can be shown if you just look the other direction, and not straightly towards the bad sides of marijuana.Nobody ever said it ain't dangerous.Junk food all day will more likely cause high blood sugar and diabetes. Never get out of your house will be unhealthy and make your extremely vulnerable whenever it comes to anything. Spend time at your computer all day will reduce your vision a lot, you will also have issues with lights because you're mostly focusing on a bright screen surrounded by a dark room. Having a cell phone at your ear will cause your tumors or renal hearing. According to your own statements, and examples above; these are considered less dangerous than smoking marijuana. I'm almost impregnable to hear more, at the moment.I'm facing the drug every day, I can incontrovertibly tell you that you don't know anything about it. You might believe in statistics and as you say "your own experiences and studies", but what you know is not enough. Simply the things you talk about are myths, that can be inevitably found on the internet. I'd advice you once again to take a closer look on both sides, and not at the direction you want to look at. That will make you very unilateral.That's right.

If my opinion is based on myths, please explain how marijuana has a positive effect on your body . Let me tell you I don't believe anything unless there is a good explanation, even studies and researches cannot be trusted as most of them are sponsored by the party that benefits from it...

I'm facing several issues similar to this subject every day and can also tell you that you're not informed about the process that comes AFTER the actual consumption, how the substances cause your immune system to be harmed and such... However we don't know each other apart from this discussion so I think it's better not to make false conclusions about each other.

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