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The G15 Keyboard Not allowed on Argonath ?

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Reply #45 on: August 17, 2007, 04:51:49 pm
A discussion is good, but stay ontopic. It's about keybinds now, not about pings or something.

And if you want the rules to be changed, first follow them after that we can talk further. Now you break them first and want them to be changed, that's not the right way.

The thing is im never known that Argonath have a Rule that says that i cant use Macros. Sorry. Yesterday was the first time as i known this rule. Im never thinked that something like macros can be forbidden in a game. Sorry.


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Reply #46 on: August 17, 2007, 05:30:39 pm
A discussion is good, but stay ontopic. It's about keybinds now, not about pings or something.

And if you want the rules to be changed, first follow them after that we can talk further. Now you break them first and want them to be changed, that's not the right way.

One thing to make clear, I am not breaking the rules because I don't use the macro function on Samp, the ping example only subjects the counterpart. High Ping gives a player an huge advantage in for example Fight clubs ( almost something like Godmode / Godlike ) to, probably a much bigger advantages then using macro's for example the microphone while in a chase. But why are macro's considered as hacks or glitches while lag is one of the most normal things on the server. I just cant catch the "furry" against using macro's, while on the other hand simple things like a ping kick script are totally unacceptable? Is it me so wondering or am I someone who doesn't see the link?

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Reply #47 on: August 17, 2007, 05:41:49 pm
Again: this is not about ping. And as we are on a RP server and not on a DM server, we don't have to fight, so stop the crap about ping.

I understand that you heard yesterday that it's not allowed, but please don't use them anymore.



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Reply #48 on: August 17, 2007, 06:36:41 pm
I believe its illegal to use cause of spamming the server by macros shortcuts



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Reply #49 on: August 17, 2007, 06:38:18 pm
Again: this is not about ping. And as we are on a RP server and not on a DM server, we don't have to fight, so stop the crap about ping.

I understand that you heard yesterday that it's not allowed, but please don't use them anymore.

Again: this is not about ping. And as we are on a RP server and not on a DM server, we don't have to fight, so stop the crap about ping.

I understand that you heard yesterday that it's not allowed, but please don't use them anymore.

In Fight clubs you have to fight, and fight clubs are scripted into the Argonath script.
Police has sometimes the urge to shoot a wanted criminal, and also that is a part on Argonath.

Again: Ping is an example for showing a huge totally allowed advantage over others ( listed as a glitch ).
Its not offtopic: If I would have a topic about "We ban all France players because they are part of Europe" while we do allow German players. Even if Germans doesn't have anything to do with France players we will notice that it is actually unfair for the France players while German players will not get banned for the reason France is part of Europe.

Now with the ping:
"The G15 Keyboard Not allowed on Argonath ?" actually means "Is usage of macro's allowed on Argonath because they are considered as advantages?"
With the sample above in mind: "We ban all players that use macro's because they have an advantage above other players" while we allow Players with a high Ping. Even if Players with a high Ping doesn't have anything to do with players that use macro's, we will notice that it is actually unfair for the Players that use macro's because they both players with a high ping and players that use macro's has advantages over others and only the players that use macro's will get banned.

I don't know the English for it but "Gelijke monikken gelijke kappen" what means: "If one advantage results in a ban, all advantages should result in a ban".



 :ps: I never said I've heard about the ban on using macro's yesterday for the first time.

 :ps: Spamming can be done to with "T" and arrow UP.


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Reply #50 on: August 17, 2007, 07:07:00 pm
Das-Korn, if you dont know how to be a cop, then you don't deserve it. if you patrol, you need a partner:

You: 100% Driving
Your partner: 100% Communicating, which includes /m PULL OVER.

Do you understand or shall i make it red? Keybinds are not allowed.

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Reply #51 on: August 17, 2007, 07:11:43 pm
We do not allow bind keys on server...
1. It is not an original SA:MP feature (hack)...
2. It is abusive...
3. It has advantage over other players...

Possibilty of flooding and because it can cause unfair gameplay.

I don't gonna waste my time with this nonsense, all what you have to know is above. If I see somebody is using keybinds (with a program or with hardware) - ban

I hope it's clear now.



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Reply #52 on: August 17, 2007, 07:48:35 pm
Then... Aragorn and/or Gandalf made the mistake of not saying keybinding were not aloud to the rule list.. It is NOT listed there. He is innocent. Wayne should of informed him that keybindings were not aloud

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Reply #53 on: August 17, 2007, 07:50:16 pm
No Keybinds is a rule.



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Reply #54 on: August 17, 2007, 07:54:32 pm
No Keybinds is a rule.

That is not listed on rules.argonathrpg.com Admins always advise us to go there for the server rules. Nobody was ever told to look up information about youre key bindings



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Reply #55 on: August 17, 2007, 08:06:49 pm
Man, i dont see why its so bad, ok im driving after a suspect and i type fast as hell and for me to type !sur or Surrender Take's like 1/4 of a second maybe a bit more, and Das-Korn isnt english, he has to think what to type cause english isnt his native language.

i do not see why you guy's are crying about Keybind's because its not making you run faster, it dosnet make you lose health slower, you cant shoot faster, liek wtf is the deal?

so i must be a hacker then cause i cant type as fast as it take Das Korn to press G1 - G15? all he has it set to is like /m surrender & shit. dosnet affect me
dsoent affect everyone else
Admin's are just mad that all he has to do is press a button for !sur or Surrender and they have to type.
Boo fucking hoo.

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Reply #56 on: August 17, 2007, 08:09:08 pm
Its the same as banning someone for the ability to multi-task very well  :conf:



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Reply #57 on: August 17, 2007, 08:17:58 pm
any kinds of multi tasks hack,keybinds,Aimbots,bots are not allowed.



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Reply #58 on: August 17, 2007, 08:22:58 pm
Requesting topic lock.
Reason: Off-Topic and flaming at main admins.

Giac i havent seen one flame ...stating an opinion isnt flaming ....AND marc is a big boy he can defend himself  :lol:

its like it is , i dont like the no jacking rule also , but its there so i enforce it ..thats all ladies and gents

one thing I think this rule is MOSTLY because the flood risk , indeed there are so many aids a gamer can buy im sure ther are lots of players with better hardware out there


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Reply #59 on: August 17, 2007, 08:23:38 pm
We know they're not allowed. What people are trying to say is that there is no legit reason for them to not be allowed.



 


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