Idea for San Andreas organisations (Passport / Driving Schools / Driving Exams)

[dtlove]

I like the idea, but I'm with the others on the part about Teaching RP. Everyone has their own style of RP.

[FlameMan]

I don't want to lead them on any kind of roleplay style, I want to show them basics, how to use /me command, what is roleplay, what are the animations on the server, what scripts can be used in roleplay etc.

[Exterminator]

I will agree to it on only one condition-
If every single active examiner+ of each driving school will agree to sacrifice their license rights then only it be implemented.

[EminemRulez]

Finally a guy who got common sense and want to help the new players instead of shitting on them and only moan against them, really admire you FlameMan.

Not the only one, I guess..
There are a plenty of them but the most doesn't go 'round yelling "e'yo look at me I help newplayers".

Must agree w/ Grz.

[Chris_Knight]

I don't want to lead them on any kind of roleplay style, I want to show them basics, how to use /me command, what is roleplay, what are the animations on the server, what scripts can be used in roleplay etc.

Want help newcomers? Join /teacher team and have fun .

[Jubin]

I don't want to lead them on any kind of roleplay style, I want to show them basics, how to use /me command, what is roleplay, what are the animations on the server, what scripts can be used in roleplay etc.

Who is stopping you now? You can show them all these things now. Also it is already community job to do it, that means at least one person per new player should be active in-game all the time to teach him/her.

Want to teach basics? Sure go ahead. My experience tells me.

• The use of command /l to get the chat off from public.
• How to enter a car as a passenger.
• Get him/her to clothes shop, teaching the commands /enter /exit and /buyclothes also mention to use spacebar to choose things on menu.
• ammunation command /buyweapon (mostly because he/she has been asking for it for a long time already)
• Working for other players (I give him/her a mission to show how it is to work for other players, the /me command, also teach that sometimes role playing involves imaginary characters and objects)
• Drug business ( teaching commands /growweed and /harvestweed also /orderheroin and /collectheroin. Also /use weed and /use heroin and explain that you can sell it to other players.)
• Driver job - how to become a driver and the commands for it. I will also be his/her first customer to demonstrate.
• Fireman job - Show the place where to become a fireman and the commands, if possible go on a mission.
• Cop job - where to become a cop. Appropriate commands, also go on a patrol with him/her. (As I know myself only the basics if I can I find a more experienced cop to teach him/her)

After those 9 points I feel that a new player is trained enough to be able to play on Argonath or at least enough to be able to ask for help to play on Argonath.

[Exclusive.]

I hated the point (Not the only point though)  where the new players got police  academy. Why do policemen always have to claim all new players and turn them into orangemen chasing maniacs. You'll now come with 'BUT WE TRAIN THEM CUS WE GUD PEOPLE, WE DON'T DO DIS CUS WE WANNA BE ADMIN, WE DO DIS FOR ARGONATH'. Come on.

Now 80% of the players is already a cop, let some new players flood into the criminal wave of life. Not mentioning the way I9 currently recruits their new men 'Hi, wanna be balla?'. Now it's basically all new players who don't know anyone playing this game yet become a cop, and others who do know some regulars from the server who are criminals become criminals.


And don't even start the 'OMG UUUU TROOLLLL' because I'm not, I really hate everyone accusing everyone being a 'troll' when they don't even know the true meaning of the word.

[FlameMan]

I hated the point (Not the only point though)  where the new players got police  academy. Why do policemen always have to claim all new players and turn them into orangemen chasing maniacs. You'll now come with 'BUT WE TRAIN THEM CUS WE GUD PEOPLE, WE DON'T DO DIS CUS WE WANNA BE ADMIN, WE DO DIS FOR ARGONATH'. Come on.

Now 80% of the players is already a cop, let some new players flood into the criminal wave of life. Not mentioning the way I9 currently recruits their new men 'Hi, wanna be balla?'. Now it's basically all new players who don't know anyone playing this game yet become a cop, and others who do know some regulars from the server who are criminals become criminals.


And don't even start the 'OMG UUUU TROOLLLL' because I'm not, I really hate everyone accusing everyone being a 'troll' when they don't even know the true meaning of the word.

I won't change your opinion, even tho it's wrong.
It has nothing to do with "i want to be admin". Pups and I created the CMB when I was already an admin, so it doesn't matter.
I want to implement something new and organised in Argonath, and as you can see - there will be faculties not for cops as well, i.e.: Argonath Law, so civilians will know when self defence is allowed, what weapons can be used, what is the maximum ticket fee etc.

[Julio.]

Hmm, its long been my belief that the Driving Schools should either merge, or be able to teach each others students, as I have had many AVDS, LSDS etc Students coming to me, an SFDS teacher, to give them lessons when I cannot.

[Exclusive.]

FlameMan, then 1 question;

What's wrong with how it's going now?

You can't just answer the new player's question? No you have to create a whole 'University' and record videos about you 'fighting' for a new players' career. To be honest it looks like you just want your name to be remembered and you're not doing this for other people.

This ain't provocative or whatever the forum moderators nowadays would say, it's just my opinion and I won't change it that easily.

[FlameMan]

FlameMan, then 1 question;

What's wrong with how it's going now?

You can't just answer the new player's question? No you have to create a whole 'University' and record videos about you 'fighting' for a new players' career. To be honest it looks like you just want your name to be remembered and you're not doing this for other people.

This ain't provocative or whatever the forum moderators nowadays would say, it's just my opinion and I won't change it that easily.

To be honest, I really think of new players, as I can see a downhill in SA-MP, and Argonath means too much for me to let it go down. If you want, search for any hidden contextes, but seems that you just don't know me. Seems that you are sizing everyone with your own standard...
I'm not such a guy. What I don't like? Players have to run all over forum, to search how to get an exam in CMB / Driving School.
Every new player joining Argonath, would actually have fun in university, because that wouldn't be any school or work. Everything will be kept in the fun context.

[Aksel]

To be honest, I really think of new players, as I can see a downhill in SA-MP, and Argonath means too much for me to let it go down. If you want, search for any hidden contextes, but seems that you just don't know me. Seems that you are sizing everyone with your own standard...
I'm not such a guy. What I don't like? Players have to run all over forum, to search how to get an exam in CMB / Driving School.
Every new player joining Argonath, would actually have fun in university, because that wouldn't be any school or work. Everything will be kept in the fun context.

How do you know they would have fun? Have you spoken to the people that attained at the TeaM school for example? How did they think it was?

And no, SA:MP is not in a downhill.

[newguy]

How do you know they would have fun? Have you spoken to the people that attained at the TeaM school for example? How did they think it was?

And no, SA:MP is not in a downhill.

I can speak a little bit 'bout TeaM School,as i'm a part of it's teachers.

It's not fun.Why? No one's interested in learning.Yea,some occasional guy PM's me,or some other teacher for help,but that's just all.The main factor of becoming a teacher in this was CASH,but i didnt recieved any.In fact,i didnt even ask for it,as i got nowhere to put it D:


I got nothing against this little project of FlameMan's.Let him do it,if he wish.I'm just not sure what will the outcome will be,as most new player aren't really interested in learning from Schools and Universities,but from random people,/help commands,or just on their own

[Exclusive.]

You're right Flameman, I do not know you as a person. I only know you from founding CMB, this and some other ideas I've seen. And I don't have some sort of 'Standard' for persons like you, in fact you're one of the few I've seen doing stuff like this.

As you've already been an admin I don't think you're doing this for admin rights, but I do not believe you're doing this just for the new players. Just because YOU, and maybe a few doom thinker friends of yours, see a downhill in SA:MP. Wow, we got a like 10 players less on a daily basis, shit man let's all suicide.

[Likvidy]

FlameMan , you should know that every driving school has got different lesson program and amount of material . I don't think so that all driving schools will accept one the same lesson program. It would destroy all driving schools politic , and also it would make harder and longer make licenses for newbies. When they would do lessons , they will need to report on forum , then wait for acceptation on forum, then find "CLB" for an exam .

Your idea will just complicate for newbies getting licenses, and as everyone know that getting license and passport must be short and easy. Your whole idea with mixing Driving Schools with "CLB" would just discourage newbies to get license , and Driving schools can become useless.

I don't think so that driving schools will accept your idea .

CMB should teach people how to roleplay and give them passports . Driving Schools should teach people how to drive and give them licenses. Driving Schools and CMB are like two completely other worlds . Don't mix them or it will become honestly one big sh*t.