Weapons, hackers and buyers

[Antonio.]

Removed, will tell you why - Cutt3r

[Cutt3r]

One question
Say i buy guns from a guy who has been playing here for like 3-4 months and he is a famous criminal or something but actually hacks guns and sells them.
I buy the guns from him and theres no way possible that comes in my head to check if hes a hacker and i buy guns from him.

In that case will i be banned?and if i were to be banned then will i be unbanned if i explain and prove that i didnt know he was a hacker and followed all procedures and common sense bounds

In such a case, no you will not be banned but your weps may be removed and cash will be refunded.
We are not illogical to ban a player who would have absolutely NO WAY to figure out if a person is possibly hacking. But when a person is new, with a little thought one can do the math and figure it all out.

[Jellyfish]

I have just one question,
If a regular hacks,and sells them successfully,
Will you be able to know that?

[.Tony]

I have just one question,
If a regular hacks,and sells them successfully,
Will you be able to know that?

People will report him for it, If they know that hes selling hacked weps etc..

[Cutt3r]

I have just one question,
If a regular hacks,and sells them successfully,
Will you be able to know that?

Yes.

[Karmps.]

If theyre a veteran, I doubt they would skrew themselves over by selling hacked weapons. If they are a veteran you should be able to trust them too.

True, Veterans know what they're doing, not hax.They understand the consequences of their reactions.

[Que]

True, Veterans know what they're doing, not hax.They understand the consequences of their reactions.

Your statement is invalid. Veterans can be as unreliable as the beginners.

[Steve.]

First of all, even if someone is a veteran he might not be able to figure out that someone is hacking. And for those who know that they bought guns from a hacker should be banned, but for those who didn't have the knowledge that they guy who sold them the guns was a hacker, must NOT be banned.
We could do something same with money...

[Julio.]

True, Veterans know what they're doing, not hax.They understand the consequences of their reactions.

Funny you should mention that, I was accused of hacking Molotovs, IR Goggles etc on the server when I am a regular. Practically nobody believed me except the people who knew me. I was told that if I 'Admitted' to hacking, I'd be unbanned quicker, however, as I did not actually hack, I said so, so it took me longer to get unbanned.

All that happened while there is a known bug with CLEO, that spawns weapons, It once spawned Void M4 and another person told me it spawned them a Knife.

[Ben.]

Funny you should mention that, I was accused of hacking Molotovs, IR Goggles etc on the server when I am a regular. Practically nobody believed me except the people who knew me. I was told that if I 'Admitted' to hacking, I'd be unbanned quicker, however, as I did not actually hack, I said so, so it took me longer to get unbanned.

All that happened while there is a known bug with CLEO, that spawns weapons, It once spawned Void M4 and another person told me it spawned them a Knife.

I remember that...completely and totally unfair. I suspect that if I asked the people who called him a liar the question now, they would still insist that he was hacking  :roll:
The irony is, anyone who called Joe a liar was, in fact, lying...because he didn't do it 
Sorry for being off-topic 

[Cutt3r]

To be clear about your case joe - we will not honestly care if CLEO or any other program spawned it, void or otherwise, known or unknown to you or anyone else involved with the program.
This is why we personally do not encourage mods to be used regardless of what the readme file or general opinion or anyone's opinion on the mod is.

If a person uses a mod and derives any advantage(weps, cash or ability to teleport etc), he will be banned.

[Rusty]

If theyre a veteran, I doubt they would skrew themselves over by selling hacked weapons. If they are a veteran you should be able to trust them too.

Some wouldn't need to sell them, they'd spawn them so they don't have to waste cash on buying them all the time.
Veterans players aren't all trustworthy you shouldn't immediately trust them cause they have been in the community for a few years.  Doing that shows you aren't doing your admin job properly if your going to immediately beleive a veteran player cause of his community status. 

[Julio.]

To be clear about your case joe - we will not honestly care if CLEO or any other program spawned it, void or otherwise, known or unknown to you or anyone else involved with the program.
This is why we personally do not encourage mods to be used regardless of what the readme file or general opinion or anyone's opinion on the mod is.

If a person uses a mod and derives any advantage(weps, cash or ability to teleport etc), he will be banned.

And kept banned for weeks when it wasn't their fault? wat

[Cutt3r]

If a person gains weapons or other advantage, how is it not their fault?

[Leon.]

I have a feeling that some people want to ask "What if we buy the weapons only to get them off of the streets, and later get rid of them and report the hacker?" I almost asked this, but I'll answer my own question:
What's the use in "getting them off the streets" if they can simply spawn more with a click of a button? Absolutely nothing.