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Reply #15 on: October 30, 2011, 01:20:27 pm
I agree with Chaska...
The current rule is: No illegal advertisements. This means that an advertisement about grass for a yard is a perfectly suitable for use in /ad. Unless...the rule is changed so it specifies that any advertisement made with the intent of selling illegal substances is not allowed, as selling grass for a yard isn't illegal in itself, only the intent.


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Reply #16 on: October 30, 2011, 01:20:50 pm
Regarding illegal ads being a police matter and not an administrative matter, just read the earlier threads and you will see that has been addressed.
Sorry to bust your dream,the concept of "illegal /ad" is rather obscure.
Is /ad destruction derby events considered as illegal? As Car hitting in public place is illegal.

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Reply #17 on: October 30, 2011, 01:21:54 pm
Sorry to bust your dream,the concept of "illegal /ad" is rather obscure.
Is /ad destruction derby events considered as illegal? As Car hitting in public place is illegal.
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Reply #18 on: October 30, 2011, 01:22:22 pm
I don't know how else to say this; making an ad selling 'grass for a stadium' is obviously selling drugs. Some things are obvious, such as a person joining a game, spending their start-up money on shotguns then going on a rampage is obviously deathmatching. We don't need proof of intent, our eyes and brains work well enough to make this kind of determination.

Regarding Hess' statement, what has that got to do with anything? That is just a person with an opinion, if Gandalf or Ron had said it you would have a point and we may have to reconsider this rule. This is a SA:MP rule and Hess has no position within SA:MP, if MTA:VC wants to allow illegal ads that is up to them to decide.

To answer your questions, an illegal ad is an ad selling conventionally illegal items that can be physically sold in the game such as heroin, weed or weapons.

You do have a good question about whether or not a legal Ammunation owner can use /ad to sell weapons. My view is that there should be one rule for everyone; as it happens the rules are currently under discussion and this one will be pinned down in due course.




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Reply #19 on: October 30, 2011, 01:26:17 pm
My suggestion about the intent to sell illegal substances still stands  :D

And of course a legal ammunation owner can use /ad...as long as he specifies it his ammunation, and not him personally!


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Reply #20 on: October 30, 2011, 01:26:53 pm
I agree with ChasKa and the post from Hess.

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Reply #21 on: October 30, 2011, 01:28:46 pm
No, It may not be illegal as well as it maybe, to be more specific, in Gandalf's own words I read in one of the topics where the owners answer, he said giving the example of microsoft 'selling ''stuff'' for more information, contact Microsoft.' There's nothing wrong with it, since nobody knows whats advertised.

Yes, JDC calls them ninja ads tho, but again, yours was too specific, there was this person a few days ago who was advertising that he's buying milk, when he was buying heroin, and no admin had any problems with those ads.


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Reply #22 on: October 30, 2011, 01:29:09 pm
Hess posted? Whats the forum name?


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Reply #23 on: October 30, 2011, 01:31:40 pm
Sorry to bust your dream,the concept of "illegal /ad" is rather obscure. Is /ad destruction derby events considered as illegal? As Car hitting in public place is illegal.

Ok, so we have to do the thinking for you. That's ok, we'll make that nice and simple for you when we re-visit the rules.




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Reply #24 on: October 30, 2011, 01:32:26 pm

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Reply #25 on: October 30, 2011, 01:35:02 pm
I don't know how else to say this; making an ad selling 'grass for a stadium' is obviously selling drugs.
The intention of /ad maybe illegal...but the /ad itself is legal although people will relate it to illegal items.
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Regarding Hess' statement, what has that got to do with anything? That is just a person with an opinion, if Gandalf or Ron had said it you would have a point and we may have to reconsider this rule. This is a SA:MP rule and Hess has no position within SA:MP, if MTA:VC wants to allow illegal ads that is up to them to decide.
As a community team,he was proven to hold great stance on argonath vision which means his word have worth quoting in some circumstances

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To answer your questions, an illegal ad is an ad selling conventionally illegal items that can be physically sold in the game such as heroin, weed or weapons.

You do have a good question about whether or not a legal Ammunation owner can use /ad to sell weapons. My view is that there should be one rule for everyone; as it happens the rules are currently under discussion and this one will be pinned down in due course.
First,thanks for considering and a further disscussion among the HQ,Appreciated.
 is /ad hiring killer to kill some people ilegal?
is /ad Destruction derby illegal?
is /ad Royal rumble/last one to stand on the ground event illegal?


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Ok, so we have to do the thinking for you. That's ok, we'll make that nice and simple for you when we re-visit the rules.
Sorry, I ask the "naive" question because I wanna hold some event later..I'll not risking myself being punished...My intention is not to challenge just wanna make something clear for me or others
My question is just simple..is /ad Destruction derby illegal?
Yes or No?

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Reply #26 on: October 30, 2011, 01:40:33 pm
/ad Selling merchandises at XX location at XX time. Solved.


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Reply #27 on: October 30, 2011, 01:45:51 pm
/ad Selling merchandises at XX location at XX time. Solved.
Good suggestion but sorry to interrupt here...it is better than grass for stadium..but I'll say I'll also relate your statement to something physically buyable illegal item e.g Drug or guns imo.

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Reply #28 on: October 30, 2011, 01:50:30 pm
If I had the time or the inclination I could answer each and every question, which would no doubt lead to more questions. This is the rule as it stands, it may or may not be changed in the future. If you want to make an actual suggestion about how to improve this rule it will be taken under advisement, but your personal preference that it shouldn't exist isn't going to cut it.

Unless...the rule is changed so it specifies that any advertisement made with the intent of selling illegal substances is not allowed, as selling grass for a yard isn't illegal in itself, only the intent.

Sadly, this may have to be done. Noted.




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Reply #29 on: October 30, 2011, 01:57:30 pm
I hate it when I'm actually selling tea and admins kick me for illegal /ad.

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