Is this illegal?

[Antonio.]

I don't need to be psychic when I have logs.

Are you implying that the logs are checked everytime a player is being kicked for illegal advertisements or when such an advertisement is made?

Also, logs don't save a head of time. Admins tend to enforce the rule seconds after such an advertisement is made...

[Kojak]

Are you implying that the logs are checked everytime a player is being kicked for illegal advertisements or when such an advertisement is made?

No, I have checked the logs for actions taken against Truth and his statement is incorrect. I see people being kicked correctly for misusing /ad and I don't see anyone being kicked incorrectly for misusing /ad. Clearly in certain people's opinions this is such a major problem that it requires a five page discussion and urgent intervention, so if this problem is so prevalent it should be easy to show me examples of people being kicked wrongly.

Also, logs don't check a head of time. Admins tend to enforce the rule seconds after such an advertisement is made...

As opposed to what, waiting half an hour? If it's obvious it's obvious, why delay?

[Comrade]

As a non roleplay stuff it can be warned by admin...

That is what Aragorn said. ^

Tell me Kojak, what do you see in that quote?
I see that illegal ads are allowed if they are disguised as legal ones, even if they are so obvious administrators are able to notice.

/ad SELLING WEED - Admin Punishable
/ad Green Tea for sale, straight from China! - Allowed, and can be investigated by cops if it is suspected to be a drug ad.

[Kojak]

I see that illegal ads are allowed if they are disguised as legal ones, even if they are so obvious administrators are able to notice.

/ad SELLING WEED - Admin Punishable
/ad Green Tea for sale, straight from China! - Allowed, and can be investigated by cops if it is suspected to be a drug ad.

You're making the mistake of using the literal word of the rule while ignoring the spirit of the rule. The rule is not there to prevent role-play, it is there to prevent spam. If we disallow illegal ads but allow disguised illegal ads then we will have the same problem as before; instead of too many ads for 'selling drugs' we'll have too many ads for 'selling grass for your lawn'

The guidance that has been given is that if you're a drug dealer, use underground means to promote your business. Make contacts on the street and use local chat and cb radios. Do not promote drugs using /ad regardless of whether the ad is explicit or disguised.

However, there have been occasions where a player has made an ad that I have suspected might be about drugs, but it is so cleverly disguised that it was not obvious. In all those occasions the player was not kicked.

[Stefanrsb]

One question:Do battle ask you whether you're selling real "Grass" or garden grass?

From the advertisement,it shows clearly that it is for stadium which is in common sense it is for gardening(From the meaning of the ad itself)
If battle hasn't ask anything,I'll say by benefit of doubt,you have not break any rules by just advertiseing selling grass for garden.

He hasnt ask me anything.

[Antonio.]

As opposed to what, waiting half an hour? If it's obvious it's obvious, why delay?

More like a few minutes. Drugs on the server are at a pretty high price, and people are always looking to buy or sell them. So, if there is a lot of members online, I gurantee you'd get a phone call with-in minutes between the time the advertisement was made. Patience is something an administrator needs to hold to fulfill his job correctly.

[Kojak]

More like a few minutes. Drugs on the server are at a pretty high price, and people are always looking to buy or sell them. So, if there is a lot of members online, I gurantee you'd get a phone call with-in minutes between the time the advertisement was made. Patience is something an administrator needs to hold to fulfill his job correctly.

You're not making any sense, why wait any amount of time if it is obvious that someone has broken a rule? This has nothing to do with patience, it is about being decisive.

[Antonio.]

You're not making any sense, why wait any amount of time if it is obvious that someone has broken a rule? This has nothing to do with patience, it is about being decisive.

My reply was for those advertisements that are illegal, not just generally speaking.

[Stefanrsb]

Dont post so fast i cant read everything joke.

[jinjifliaktor]

Stefan_9_Vrtnik, if you are so good roleplayer... why you don't start walking on the streets and selling as a drug dealer?

[Stefanrsb]

Who said that im a good roleplayer? And i dont do it becouse its boring,maybe. Nice idea,maybe ill do it later.

[JDC]

If an ad is so cleverly disguised, I request the player to inform me exactly what he is selling, since illegal usage of /ad is still not allowed, ninja ads or not.

[Antonio.]

If an ad is so cleverly disguised, I request the player to inform me exactly what he is selling, since illegal usage of /ad is still not allowed, ninja ads or not.

Didn't Kojak say it was allowed if you cleverly disguised it?

[JDC]

Didn't Kojak say it was allowed if you cleverly disguised it?

He said that the player wasn't kicked if the /ad disguise was so clever that Admins wouldn't be able to spot it. If you do make an ad though and I ask you what you are selling, it means the ad in question is still suspicious.

[jinjifliaktor]

 /ad Selling Weed 3,000 grams | 45 dollars per gram!  - Not roleplay advertising
 /ad Selling grass or green tea or etc - Roleplay adversting

If police officers in Argonath RPG do roleplay instead pursue orange dots, they would prosecute the people who make such ads and check them. Even going to be much fun. But because at this stage it does not happen, admins do their job.  On the other hand, you must be very stupid to advertise your drugs with /ad even if try to cover it  in some way. However, this is a roleplay server...