How to give the community itself a boost?

[Leon.]

If there is a problem in Argonath in relation to trolling, that is how any joke or any non-angel humor attempt is immediately labeled as trolling.

*Slowly looks over to battle...*
GUILTY.

[Que]

When we are pretty much into trolling.
Swedes:

[Sweeper]

Translation would be better.

[Que]

When we are pretty much into trolling.
Swedes:

Girl: Yo, who are you?
Guy: Mark, but that won't tell you much. I just added you because you were beautiful and we had a lot of common friends.
Girl: Oh okay. Do you study at ....?
Guy: Yeah. You?
Girl: Paradis (school)
Guy: Do you know Benjamin?
Girl: Lastname?
Guy: Yeah.
Girl: What's his lastname?
Guy: His name is Benjamin.
Girl: But doesn't he have a lastname?
Guy: Who?
Girl: Uhhh, Benjamin?
Guy: Oh, so you know him?
Girl: No, I don't know because YOU'RE NOT TELLING ME HIS LASTNAME.
Guy: Yeah, but his name is Benjamin. Don't you believe me?
Girl: Of course, I believe you. His name is Benjamin, but don't you know his lastname? There are plenty of Benjamin.
Guy: Benjamin
Girl: Ah god!

[Sweeper]

Girl: Yo, who are you?
Guy: Mark, but that won't tell you much. I just added you because you were beautiful and we had a lot of common friends.
Girl: Oh okay. Do you study at ....?
Guy: Yeah. You?
Girl: Paradis (school)
Guy: Do you know Benjamin?
Girl: Lastname?
Guy: Yeah.
Girl: What's his lastname?
Guy: His name is Benjamin.
Girl: But doesn't he have a lastname?
Guy: Who?
Girl: Uhhh, Benjamin?
Guy: Oh, so you know him?
Girl: No, I don't know because YOU'RE NOT TELLING ME HIS LASTNAME.
Guy: Yeah, but his name is Benjamin. Don't you believe me?
Girl: Of course, I believe you. His name is Benjamin, but don't you know his lastname? There are plenty of Benjamin.
Guy: Benjamin
Girl: Ah god!

Swedish humor, lol.

[Ratko Gavrilovic]

Girl: Yo, who are you?
Guy: Mark, but that won't tell you much. I just added you because you were beautiful and we had a lot of common friends.
Girl: Oh okay. Do you study at ....?
Guy: Yeah. You?
Girl: Paradis (school)
Guy: Do you know Benjamin?
Girl: Lastname?
Guy: Yeah.
Girl: What's his lastname?
Guy: His name is Benjamin.
Girl: But doesn't he have a lastname?
Guy: Who?
Girl: Uhhh, Benjamin?
Guy: Oh, so you know him?
Girl: No, I don't know because YOU'RE NOT TELLING ME HIS LASTNAME.
Guy: Yeah, but his name is Benjamin. Don't you believe me?
Girl: Of course, I believe you. His name is Benjamin, but don't you know his lastname? There are plenty of Benjamin.
Guy: Benjamin
Girl: Ah god!

Haha, good one.

[Oliver_Daniels]

I fully agree with the original post in that the community has deteriorated due to discussions and arguments getting shut down too fast without letting people vent properly. When someone isn't allowed to speak their mind for a long period of time, they might simply snap and end up banned for something asinine. We shouldn't be creating a 'friendly and welcoming' attitude towards every single little thing, because people are different and there will always be people who don't like something. The current policy of 'What admins say is right, what you say is wrong' reminds me of how the russkies tried to 'russianize' us by banning our holidays and forcing us to speak russian. That kind of a policy didn't work back then and it certainly isn't going to work now.
People should be allowed to express what they feel as long as what they say isn't blatant trolling like 'durr i hate teh america becus they r fat an sin!!!!'.


There was a fire in the royal library in Sweden, and the king was utterly depressed because both books were burned and he`d only gotten around to painting in one of them.

[JDC]

The latest person I could think of that came up with nice and helpful ideas was iMunna, and he has gone a while ago...

iMunna turned his back on Argonath and betrayed us, the same as one of =AV='s founders did. That pretty much cancels out everything good he might have done for us.


In regards to the issue about people not being allowed to vent properly, allow me to clarify certain points.

Discussions get locked easily not because people have anything to say against something or someone in the community, and the Administration has listened to valid concerns from the players many times in the past. The discussions in question are locked because the majority of players are incapable of voicing out their concerns in an appropriate manner, or simply because some of the "concerns" in question are completely unnecessary.

We do not expect everyone to act like mature adults, as the majority of the community is underage. All we need is that the players act decently, although many still fail to do so in spite of it being so simple.

[Emre]

iMunna turned his back on Argonath and betrayed us, the same as one of =AV='s founders did. That pretty much cancels out everything good he might have done for us.

That's just a big disgrace, forgetting the good things that someone did just because he was literally showing the middlefinger. How would you feel when nobody even wants to remember your good commitments just because you f@cked up big time ?

[Antonio.]

iMunna turned his back on Argonath and betrayed us, the same as one of =AV='s founders did. That pretty much cancels out everything good he might have done for us.

Betrayed us? He was a ban evader who sucessfully became an administrator and then trolling the community, so he did not betray us, the higher administration just didn't catch an important detail. Never the less, I implyed that because wether or not iMunna was a good guy, he was the latest player that contriubted good ideas into the community. As for Dave, I don't know the story very well, but I am glad he is not here anymore.

[Oliver_Daniels]

iMunna turned his back on Argonath and betrayed us, the same as one of =AV='s founders did. That pretty much cancels out everything good he might have done for us.

You're showing off a completely closed mind there, mate.
Like Emre said, you shouldn't forget everything good that someone did just because they did something bad. It doesn't justify it, but claiming that every good deed they did should be forgotten can't really be justified either.


A person able to do a kind, benevolent deed also has it in them to commit a malevolent act of evil.
People should be remembered for all of their actions since it's impossible for any action to 'cancel' any other 'out'.

[Kojak]

Enough now. If anyone was actually thinking about or discussing ways to 'give the community a boost' then this might have been a positive, helpful thread. As it is, people are just using it as a pulpit for their individual grievances, blaming others for imaginary problems and point blank refusing to take any personal responsibility whatsoever.

Pointless moan thread closed.